Player Discussion Jeremy Swayman: VII - As featured in Episode 3 of Amazon's "FACEOFF: Inside the NHL

[smithformeragent]

One could make the argument that we're beating a dead horse here.

So be it. Discuss, if you so choose. We'll keep all the Swayman talk contained to this thread.

If you have nothing meaningful to contribute to the conversation, move along.

We will not have this devolve into thread hijacking and flaming of other posters.

@Gee Wally

We have numerous deletions and more in here. We know tension and emotions are high.
But you folks must simply stop taking personal shots at each. Stay to topic.

If not we will be left with no choice other than adding thread bans.

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[DKH]

This guy seems like he's full of shit

Neely best RW I’ve ever seen and Lewis Gross some guy with a lot of hair gel with a law degree from Columbia, the country not the school

Going with Cam here for believability

 

[UncleRico]

Gross is 100% lying and saving face with his client.

How do we know the bruins aren’t lying?

 

[Alicat]

Begs the question on the part of both sides:

Do you want to get a deal done, or do you want to win the public relations war?

I think Swayman wants a deal done. I have a feeling, based on this save my ass statement, is that Gross never told him about the offer

 

[wintersej]

Yeah makes no sense for Neely to lie about this. Him coming out and saying it publicly sets the teams floor offer at 8x8. So why say it if it isn't true?

The only way it could make sense is if they already decided to trade him I guess? And they are still talking about trying to make it work to help trade value? I dunno. The Occam's razor is Gross covering his ass.

 

[Sheppy]

LMAO what a f***ing circus this is.

 

[lopey]

How do we know the bruins aren’t lying?

Because saying 64 million reasons by Neely makes the Bruins locked in at that number at tbe very least. Makes no sense for him to do that

 

[DKH]

Questioning Neely lying comical

He said it specifically on record

Gross could just say ‘ok we accept’

Instead we get a sad trombone

 

[Bodit9]

Then don't buy it. You or anyone else. I think it's naive and childish to think otherwise but whatever. Business is ruthless. Continue to believe that these negotiations are just two parties drumming up goalie comparables from the present and past if it makes you feel better.

After Gross's statement anyone who can't see by now how this ends, wasn't a Bruins fan back in the late 1990s/early 2000s.

I'm going to take my leave and head back to the real world. Enjoy your fantasy land with your Korpisalo/Bussi tandem.

Ok. Enjoy the "real world"

 

[Ludwig Fell Down]

LMAO what a f***ing circus this is.

Yup. And we'll be on Thread VIII by sunup tomorrow.

 

[Carl Hungus]

Neely best RW I’ve ever seen and Lewis Gross some guy with a lot of hair gel with a law degree from Columbia, the country not the school

Going with Cam here for believability

Made me chuckle

 

[Saxon Eric]

He gone

 

[Alicat]

This was William Nylander's statement after his negotiations. Also, Gaudreau (rip) told him to sign the deal in Calgary years back. Gross is the issue here not Cam and the Bruins.

 

[DKH]

Then don't buy it. You or anyone else. I think it's naive and childish to think otherwise but whatever. Business is ruthless. Continue to believe that these negotiations are just two parties drumming up goalie comparables from the present and past if it makes you feel better.

After Gross's statement anyone who can't see by now how this ends, wasn't a Bruins fan back in the late 1990s/early 2000s.

I'm going to take my leave and head back to the real world. Enjoy your fantasy land with your Korpisalo/Bussi tandem.

Trade ?

 

[Bodit9]

Yeah makes no sense for Neely to lie about this. Him coming out and saying it publicly sets the teams floor offer at 8x8. So why say it if it isn't true?

The only way it could make sense is if they already decided to trade him I guess? And they are still talking about trying to make it work to help trade value? I dunno. The Occam's razor is Gross covering his ass.

I think it's Bruins reaching out directly to Swayman and the fan base. Gross is the problem here

 

[AngryMilkcrates]

 

[Pia8988]

Hard to say who's lying. The front office has been known to not be truthful. Agent has issues, but who knows. Truth is probably in the middle somewhere.

 

[Donnie Shulzhoffer]

The number could be 64.1 which would make Gross “technically” right.

Of course he released a statement that it was the first time he heard it. What else is he going to say.

 

[Oates2Neely]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1840888705877254151

wow so Neely lied again. Cool

Neely lied? Cmon dude stop. This is the agent attempting to salvage his & clients reputation. Neely pinned them in a corner

 

[PlayMakers]

So someone is lying.

I don’t see what benefit it would have to Neely though.

Seems like an easy way for Swayman to save face and take the offer though if the backlash got to him.

No offense to Cam but I don't think he's clever enough or a good enough actor to pretend to accidentally blurt out a made up number. That would be some serious machiavellian manipulation. Cam is known more for losing his cool in interviews and saying things he shouldn't.

What's more belivable? Cam is frustrated and revealed something he shouldn't? Or an agent with a questionable reputation is lying?

 

[SwayHeyKid]

Again with Mitch Miller in a Swayman thread.... Why the deflection off the topic?

Because you are saying Neely isn't lying. I mean that's what he does

 

[dangermike]

If he doesn’t sign in the next 48 hours it really feels like he’s not a bruin long term and that sucks.

I’m not sure certain posters on this board will be bruins fans long term if that happens either lol

 

[Over the volcano]

I think Swayman wants a deal done. I have a feeling, based on this save my ass statement, is that Gross never told him about the offer

Yeah it's either that or Neely cutting to the chase and 8/8 is where both sides figured they were going to end up so he just said it out loud.

 

[UncleRico]

Because saying 64 million reasons by Neely makes the Bruins locked in at that number at tbe very least. Makes no sense for him to do that

But what if there really hasn’t been an offer and that was just a PR stunt by Neely?

 

[SwayHeyKid]

No offense to Cam but I don't think he's clever enough or a good enough actor to pretend to accidentally blurt out a made up number. That would be some serious machiavellian manipulation. Cam is known more for losing his cool in interviews and saying things he shouldn't.

What's more belivable? Cam is frustrated and revealed something he shouldn't? Or an agent with a questionable reputation is lying?

Or a liar lying?

 

[LSCII]

I don't even know if it's a good idea to have him back at this point

Best case scenario is Gross didn't relay all the info and Swayman resents his agent more than the Bruins. But that's very wishful thinking of mine.

What a silly take. This is why Neely put this spin out there. To win support for dumping him for pennies on the dollar.