Player Discussion Jeremy Swayman -V - all still silent

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LiseL

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I really appreciated William Nylander sticking to his principles when he held out as an RFA for the sake of future young centers in the league. Selfless stuff that was.
I think you're being sarcastic but Nylander was a winger at the time. Yes, they're trying him out at center this year but too early to know if he stays in that position.
 

BigGoalBrad

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Lindholm no doubt in my mind, Zadorov, money doesn't bother me as much as maybe the years, Peeke was a need at the time when the deal was made, it is only for two years and he is 26 ........Lindholm is really scary and I do not want to add to my anxiety buy signing Swayman for more.


Why make the same mistake twice, just maybe if they did not pay Rask that contract they might have some leftover to give Krecji a RW, coincidence that are looking for a RW now.
Rask also had some serious compete issues following losing to Corey Crawford and that scumbag franchise.

He refused to play in a do or die regular season finale because he had a stomach ache and the runs. What would that have been the second or third year of his big deal? Swayman wants to do podcasts and be a businessman more than fight for a Cup and a Vezina.
 
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TD Charlie

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Rask also had some serious compete issues following losing to Corey Crawford and that scumbag franchise.

He refused to play in a do or die regular season finale because he had a stomach ache and the runs. What would that have been the second or third year of his big deal? Swayman wants to do podcasts and be a businessman more than fight for a Cup and a Vezina.
Or he wants to be compensated fairly, but if that’s your stance I don’t think there’s any way to convince you otherwise
 

BigGoalBrad

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Or he wants to be compensated fairly, but if that’s your stance I don’t think there’s any way to convince you otherwise
What’s not fair? We don’t trade Ullmark if we don’t think Swayman will sign. The team did right by him and made him the uncontested #1 and he decides to hold out and go on podcasts mouthing off about resetting the market for goalies. His agent probably upped the price after the trade.
 

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What’s not fair? We don’t trade Ullmark if we don’t think Swayman will sign. The team did right by him and made him the uncontested #1 and he decides to hold out and go on podcasts mouthing off about resetting the market for goalies. His agent probably upped the price after the trade.
That's exactly how I see it too. I think Sweeney went to Swayman and they talked last year and Jeremy said he loved it in Boston, wanted to be a lifer and wanted to be #1. Sweeney went with that commitment and moved Ullmark. Then Swayman either turned on him or listened to his greedy agent and they started digging in and leveraging the situation assuming Sweeney would have no choice. Sweeney took this as a betrayal (magnified by the public comments Swayman made) and he, along with the people above him felt betrayed and as history shows when that happens they dig in and are even angry and vindictive. I wouldn't be surprised if they then offered less and less term taking an earlier offer off the table.
Bruins culture is a team of unity, but they never let anybody stand above all that. It's just not how they operate. If Swayman doesn't come around I wouldn't be surprised if he's traded before December, and probably to a bottom feeder like Anaheim.
It's not what I want to have happen, but at this point the only way out may be for Swayman to fire his agent, put the blame on him and start over. That might get management to yield a little.

I could be wrong. It's just speculation.
 

Pia8988

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What’s not fair? We don’t trade Ullmark if we don’t think Swayman will sign. The team did right by him and made him the uncontested #1 and he decides to hold out and go on podcasts mouthing off about resetting the market for goalies. His agent probably upped the price after the trade.

As his agent should.

That's exactly how I see it too. I think Sweeney went to Swayman and they talked last year and Jeremy said he loved it in Boston, wanted to be a lifer and wanted to be #1. Sweeney went with that commitment and moved Ullmark. Then Swayman either turned on him or listened to his greedy agent and they started digging in and leveraging the situation assuming Sweeney would have no choice. Sweeney took this as a betrayal (magnified by the public comments Swayman made) and he, along with the people above him felt betrayed and as history shows when that happens they dig in and are even angry and vindictive. I wouldn't be surprised if they then offered less and less term taking an earlier offer off the table.
Bruins culture is a team of unity, but they never let anybody stand above all that. It's just not how they operate. If Swayman doesn't come around I wouldn't be surprised if he's traded before December, and probably to a bottom feeder like Anaheim.
It's not what I want to have happen, but at this point the only way out may be for Swayman to fire his agent, put the blame on him and start over. That might get management to yield a little.

I could be wrong. It's just speculation.

The amount of spinning going on here is hilarious. Don’s going to need to refresh his resume if he plans on a Korpi Bussi pairing because he has to show Swayman who is boss
 

Hookslide

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Rask also had some serious compete issues following losing to Corey Crawford and that scumbag franchise.

He refused to play in a do or die regular season finale because he had a stomach ache and the runs. What would that have been the second or third year of his big deal? Swayman wants to do podcasts and be a businessman more than fight for a Cup and a Vezina.
Full disclosure I am not a big Rask fan, on or off ice, and you do bring up some interesting points about him.
 

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That's exactly how I see it too. I think Sweeney went to Swayman and they talked last year and Jeremy said he loved it in Boston, wanted to be a lifer and wanted to be #1. Sweeney went with that commitment and moved Ullmark. Then Swayman either turned on him or listened to his greedy agent and they started digging in and leveraging the situation assuming Sweeney would have no choice. Sweeney took this as a betrayal (magnified by the public comments Swayman made) and he, along with the people above him felt betrayed and as history shows when that happens they dig in and are even angry and vindictive. I wouldn't be surprised if they then offered less and less term taking an earlier offer off the table.
Bruins culture is a team of unity, but they never let anybody stand above all that. It's just not how they operate. If Swayman doesn't come around I wouldn't be surprised if he's traded before December, and probably to a bottom feeder like Anaheim.
It's not what I want to have happen, but at this point the only way out may be for Swayman to fire his agent, put the blame on him and start over. That might get management to yield a little.

I could be wrong. It's just speculation.
I was actually thinking something like that as well.
 
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What’s not fair? We don’t trade Ullmark if we don’t think Swayman will sign. The team did right by him and made him the uncontested #1 and he decides to hold out and go on podcasts mouthing off about resetting the market for goalies. His agent probably upped the price after the trade.

Or Sweeney was very desperate to get a #1 back in this year draft so he traded Ullmark without locking up Swayman first. There were only a few teams that were in on Ullmark and Sweeney knew the draft is when teams have the most flexibility to make deals.

Swayman didn't mouth off about anything nor did he say he was going to reset the market. I see a lot of fans taking his words and twisting them in order to fit their narrative that Swayman is the bad guy here.

Its amazing how just 3-4 months ago Bruins fan were talking about how he's the future of the team between the pipes, a core guy, future Vezina winner......and now he's treated like the spawn of Satan because he wants to be paid like a top end goalie.
 

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That's exactly how I see it too. I think Sweeney went to Swayman and they talked last year and Jeremy said he loved it in Boston, wanted to be a lifer and wanted to be #1. Sweeney went with that commitment and moved Ullmark. Then Swayman either turned on him or listened to his greedy agent and they started digging in and leveraging the situation assuming Sweeney would have no choice. Sweeney took this as a betrayal (magnified by the public comments Swayman made) and he, along with the people above him felt betrayed and as history shows when that happens they dig in and are even angry and vindictive. I wouldn't be surprised if they then offered less and less term taking an earlier offer off the table.
Bruins culture is a team of unity, but they never let anybody stand above all that. It's just not how they operate. If Swayman doesn't come around I wouldn't be surprised if he's traded before December, and probably to a bottom feeder like Anaheim.
It's not what I want to have happen, but at this point the only way out may be for Swayman to fire his agent, put the blame on him and start over. That might get management to yield a little.

I could be wrong. It's just speculation.
So what is Swayman's status (RFA,UFA) if he's not signed by Dec 1st?
 

TD Charlie

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What’s not fair? We don’t trade Ullmark if we don’t think Swayman will sign. The team did right by him and made him the uncontested #1 and he decides to hold out and go on podcasts mouthing off about resetting the market for goalies. His agent probably upped the price after the trade.
You’re assuming an awful lot here.

He’s holding out as much as Sweeney hasn’t offered him a contract.

Not ruining does not equal resetting
Not ruining does not equal resetting
Not ruining does not equal resetting
 

Hookslide

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Wouldn't surprise me Korpi becomes a wall here. I took him late in my fantasy hockey draft. Not worried about goalie situation . Let this play out I have faith in Donny maestro.
Well, I hope Korpisalo helps your season. Korpisalo, will hopefully benefit from a stronger defense in front of that should be much better than what he had in Ottawa, Swayman on the other hand should he traded might not be so fortunate, and that will not help his negotiations in the future. Swayman might have been better with a smaller piece of the pie and maybe would have been just has full in the long haul.
 

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SwayHeyKid

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Wouldn't surprise me Korpi becomes a wall here. I took him late in my fantasy hockey draft. Not worried about goalie situation . Let this play out I have faith in Donny maestro.
You do realize he would never have acquired him if he didn't have to take him right? Seems an odd play to have the main piece of the return be a possible contributor in 2028.
 

UncleRico

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Take it with a grain of salt, but Spitting chicklets guys are doubling down and saying Sweeney is “fudging” the truth in his recent press conference. They claim they do know the offer Sweeney gave to Swayman and it was the one they reported from before in the low $6s.

Again take it with a grain of salt because tumors have been very off.
 

goldenblack

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Take it with a grain of salt, but Spitting chicklets guys are doubling down and saying Sweeney is “fudging” the truth in his recent press conference. They claim they do know the offer Sweeney gave to Swayman and it was the one they reported from before in the low $6s.

Again take it with a grain of salt because tumors have been very off.

These guys have missed so many times that I give them ZERO cred
 

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Take it with a grain of salt, but Spitting chicklets guys are doubling down and saying Sweeney is “fudging” the truth in his recent press conference. They claim they do know the offer Sweeney gave to Swayman and it was the one they reported from before in the low $6s.

Again take it with a grain of salt because tumors have been very off.
For the love of god fix that horrible typo lol

I’m ordering a Swayman jersey today. This is my way of willing this frankly painful situation to resolution that sees our rockstar goalie remain a foundational part of our team.
 

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