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Mr. Make-Believe said:
I’ve asked this before… What contract would you be UNhappy with? Consider term and AAV.

For me, it used to be anything less than eight years. Any realistic AAV was going to be fine with me. Now? Now I’m concerned that the cap hit will be north of reasonable and I’ve become open to the idea of a medium-term contract.

<3 years I will be critical of (unless somehow it’s quite cheap)

And any cap hit that necessitates moving a player or running a skeleton crew to make the cap work this season.

Anything inside of those parameters, I should be happy with. Should be.
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I mostly agree. The thing that's been in the back of my mind is that every time they go to the negotiating table it seems like it's been a mess, each party is way off on expectations and are unable to meet in the middle. These negotiations tend to end with someone being upset. Plus, he won't be a RFA next time, so there is no guarantee he stays.

Because of that, I loathe the idea of another negotiation in 3-4 years.
 
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Donnie Shulzhoffer said:
He is usually full of shit.
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I checked him out before on something and the paper he writes for in previous articles the New York Herald ceased I think in 1924

He changed it to Herald and 24

Before the blue mark he was nobody now he’s a nobody with a blue check mark
 
UncleRico said:
Final guess 8x$8.25million
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If it’s 8 years I could see that 8/66; surely 8 years at 64 to 68 M is ball park

However sounds like they may have landed at

6/50 ~ 8.3 M

Swayman can get another contract at 31

I’m good with either ~ 6 years a long time especially with a goalie

If it’s 6/50 I am Bruins I’m very happy and I’m Swayman I’m happy

And as a fan of Swayman and the Bruins and of joy / I’m happy

Win, win, win
 
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pemulis said:
I mostly agree. The thing that's been in the back of my mind is that every time they go to the negotiating table it seems like it's been a mess, each party is way off on expectations and are unable to meet in the middle. These negotiations tend to end with someone being upset. Plus, he won't be a RFA next time, so there is no guarantee he stays.

Because of that, I loathe the idea of another negotiation in 3-4 years.
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I fully agree. Sway and his agent definitely seem to drive a hard bargain, and that's their right, but it would be nice to see the next negotiating process involving them kicked as far down the road as possible. Locks Sway up for longer, and it's almost certain that a longer-term deal will age better as the cap goes up, even if the AAV initially feels very high. Sure a long contract carries some risk, but I think it's justifiable. Here's to hoping we see a 7+ year deal finalized very soon.
 
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wintersej said:
It keeps being repeated to you that the other comps for Swayman at this stage in his career (Saros, Helly, Demko, Shesterkin) all took 4-6 year deals and yes you keep repeating this. Its truly mind numbing.
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4 years is a dumb offer, sorry. Never said anything about 6. Going with the Rask extension comp, 6 would be great if you can get it as the Bruins, ideal actually. He shouldn't sign for anything under 8, guess we will see soon.

DKH said:
If it’s 8 years I could see that 8/66; surely 8 years at 64 to 68 M is ball park

However sounds like they may have landed at

6/50 ~ 8.3 M

Swayman can get another contract at 31

I’m good with either ~ 6 years a long time especially with a goalie

If it’s 6/50 I am Bruins I’m very happy and I’m Swayman I’m happy

And as a fan of Swayman and the Bruins and of joy / I’m happy

Win, win, win
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would be an exceptional job all parties. Sets a new goalie market, Bruins reward him yet get the ed of the deal at 31 and not 33, Here;s to hoping.
 
Mr. Make-Believe said:
I’ve asked this before… What contract would you be UNhappy with? Consider term and AAV.

For me, it used to be anything less than eight years. Any realistic AAV was going to be fine with me. Now? Now I’m concerned that the cap hit will be north of reasonable and I’ve become open to the idea of a medium-term contract.

<3 years I will be critical of (unless somehow it’s quite cheap)

And any cap hit that necessitates moving a player or running a skeleton crew to make the cap work this season.

Anything inside of those parameters, I should be happy with. Should be.
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none. Get Swayman in here. If they can get him for less and he agrees more power to them, just don't nickel and dime him. Don't expect him top take a 4 year deal at sub 7, that's just lunacy.
 
HustleB said:
Hello Dom. Are you hearing the same. I know you’ve been waiting by the phone. Do you have any insight on aav or term?
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I've got nothing new and nothing on what the contract would look like. The Bruins are as tight lipped as Wally's finger on the ban button. If you message anyone on the Bruins asking about it, all you get is a 👀

My guess? If you don't hear before the Sweeney presser today, then it's not happening today. That's my hunch.

Y'all are gonna know before me. I have a day filled with intrusive medical tests starting in the next hour with no access to the internet. So the first thing I will do when I can is check here for a signing. Or not.
 
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We hear it’s done and not even close to done. Lol

At this point just got to roll with the punches. Hopefully Korp and Bussi look great in camp and starts to make Swayman sweat a little
 
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DominicT said:
I've got nothing new and nothing on what the contract would look like. The Bruins are as tight lipped as Wally's finger on the ban button. If you message anyone on the Bruins asking about it, all you get is a 👀

My guess? If you don't hear before the Sweeney presser today, then it's not happening today. That's my hunch.

Y'all are gonna know before me. I have a day filled with intrusive medical tests starting in the next hour with no access to the internet. So the first thing I will do when I can is check here for a signing. Or not.
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Good luck today. Thanks for all you do.

Looking forward to catching the podcast today, as last night I was too busy to catch the whole thing.
 
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Mr. Make-Believe said:
I’ve asked this before… What contract would you be UNhappy with? Consider term and AAV.

For me, it used to be anything less than eight years. Any realistic AAV was going to be fine with me. Now? Now I’m concerned that the cap hit will be north of reasonable and I’ve become open to the idea of a medium-term contract.

<3 years I will be critical of (unless somehow it’s quite cheap)

And any cap hit that necessitates moving a player or running a skeleton crew to make the cap work this season.

Anything inside of those parameters, I should be happy with. Should be.
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A two year deal at any number. That's the kind of term that should lead to a new GM before the ink is dry on Jeremy's signature.
 
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Unlike under the prior regime, under Sweeney there aren't any leaks and this is no exception

Months ago I guessed 8x$8.25 .....I would still take that for both term and AAV

Whatever the final contract- it needs to get done so this isn't an on-going distraction during camp and we can go back to discussing whether Lysell is the answer at wing.
 
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the negotiator said:
Unlike under the prior regime, under Sweeney there aren't any leaks and this is no exception

Months ago I guessed 8x$8.25 .....I would still take that for both term and AAV

Whatever the final contract- it needs to get done so this isn't an on-going distraction during camp and we can go back to discussing whether Lysell is the answer at wing.
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It is amazing that after all these years people still think the Bruins are the leakers.

Don Sweeney is not Loose Lips Chiarelli
 
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DominicT said:
I've got nothing new and nothing on what the contract would look like. The Bruins are as tight lipped as Wally's finger on the ban button. If you message anyone on the Bruins asking about it, all you get is a 👀

My guess? If you don't hear before the Sweeney presser today, then it's not happening today. That's my hunch.

Y'all are gonna know before me. I have a day filled with intrusive medical tests starting in the next hour with no access to the internet. So the first thing I will do when I can is check here for a signing. Or not.
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Good luck with the tests!
 
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DominicT said:
I've got nothing new and nothing on what the contract would look like. The Bruins are as tight lipped as Wally's finger on the ban button. If you message anyone on the Bruins asking about it, all you get is a 👀

My guess? If you don't hear before the Sweeney presser today, then it's not happening today. That's my hunch.

Y'all are gonna know before me. I have a day filled with intrusive medical tests starting in the next hour with no access to the internet. So the first thing I will do when I can is check here for a signing. Or not.
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Good luck today Dom!
 
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GordonHowe said:
A clear disagreement then.

In my view, there is no way the Bruins will allow Brandon Bussi on waivers, as he would surely be claimed.

That's about all I can say. Again, I do not understand the waiver situation, numbers blah f***ing blah.

But if I could, I would do as outlined previously.
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You are right does not matter where Kopaslo collects his paycheck, Providence or Boston, and they waive Bussi, he is history in this town.
 
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