Player Discussion Jeremy Swayman II - still waiting

[LSCII]

Yeah, that's all true. But he could have signed for something like 8 x $3M months ago. That's a lot of money -- much more than many of us will ever see. But he didn't.

So while everything you say above is true.... F him. I live an die for this team and don't even get paid for doing it!!!! He should think about THAT.

$64k is the national average for salaries per year. So by comp, he should accept $150k per year because that's a lot of money by comparison, right?

This is a business and it's always odd to me that organizations can treat it as such but whenever a player does he's labeled as selfish or a piece of shit. In reality, Swayman isn't the one who gave up the leverage. That was the Harvard educated clown in the front office. Some folks here have an issue with a player wanting a fair market deal and negotiating as such, yet are never critical when Sweeney is overpaying some bottom of the roster stiff. I mean really, what's more impactful in a negative way to the team? Overpaying bottom pairing D men like Zadorov and Peeke, and eating bad contracts in trade for a backup goalie and fourth line plug to the tune of millions of dollars, or overpaying a top notch goalie by a little bit?

It's really an amazing dynamic. Rooting for billionaires over the players that perform on the ice, like its your own money.

 

[Knight]

Swayman gives off some low-key psycho energy, and I'm all for it. Looking forward to him stirring the pot from the crease for many years to come, especially with all the new size in Boston's lineup backing him up.

He's been dying for a scrap haha

 

[DKH]

I don't think anyone one is calling him a jerk off, greedy?

This bull crap of him doing this for the goalie union is infuriating to me if true.

I thought it was about winning a championship and maybe leaving a little on the table so we can put the best team on the ice.

And before anyone chimes in I KNOW IT'S A BUSINESS.

Bruins will spend to the cap so the money he leaves on the table will be put to use.

Ok Im off to my Daughters wedding, I wish there was a salary cap on weddings

I’m calling him a jerk

As in if he was half as nice as me

Congrats on daughter - she is a lucky gal having you

 

[DKH]

Just driving around doing errands listening to Jones & Keefe and Keefe confident about his Swayman wants $10 M

Smart of Swayman to wanting to be the guy who gets goalies salaries up

Win one series $10 M

Hopefully Swayman can get Ullsy $10 M next summer but he never won a playoff series

 

[Number8]

$64k is the national average for salaries per year. So by comp, he should accept $150k per year because that's a lot of money by comparison, right?

This is a business and it's always odd to me that organizations can treat it as such but whenever a player does he's labeled as selfish or a piece of shit. In reality, Swayman isn't the one who gave up the leverage. That was the Harvard educated clown in the front office. Some folks here have an issue with a player wanting a fair market deal and negotiating as such, yet are never critical when Sweeney is overpaying some bottom of the roster stiff. I mean really, what's more impactful in a negative way to the team? Overpaying bottom pairing D men like Zadorov and Peeke, and eating bad contracts in trade for a backup goalie and fourth line plug to the tune of millions of dollars, or overpaying a top notch goalie by a little bit?

It's really an amazing dynamic. Rooting for billionaires over the players that perform on the ice, like its your own money.

Woah.... easy there. $150K???????

If you and I ever go out on the town I am holding the cash. You cannot be trusted.

 

[Oates2Neely]

Gotta a lot going on (retirement is overrated folks seems even less time in a day) so need to take a break here but my final take is

I would not pay him over 8 M

He doesn’t have the resume ~ he’s projecting a lot

I wanted a red Firebird in high school as a car and was willing to hold my breathe over it (my parents bought me a used javelin - not the thing you throw but drive. Actually pretty cool wish I realized it then)

Dude is getting a big head ~ off the ice as well

A Javelin… now there’s some serious horsepower. I crashed mine within a week of owning it. I miss that beast.

Care to share what the off ice Sway buzz is? I haven’t read anything anywhere

 

[Dr Quincy]

Yes it's a lot of money, but if its an 8 yr contract at 8 million its 64 million and 8 yr at 10 million is 80 million. Pretty sure you can live an amazing lifestyle at 8 million a year and have money for your childrens children, especially since he took business classes.

Yeah, that's all true. But he could have signed for something like 8 x $3M months ago. That's a lot of money -- much more than many of us will ever see. But he didn't.

So while everything you say above is true.... F him. I live an die for this team and don't even get paid for doing it!!!! He should think about THAT.

Jacobs is a multibillionaire. He doesnt HAVE to charge $60 for parking at the Garden. He could make it free for diehard lifelong fans with a paid ticket.

But he doesn't because he wants to make every possible cent off the backs of poor working class fans.
He should think about that.

 

[DKH]

A Javelin… now there’s some serious horsepower. I crashed mine within a week of owning it. I miss that beast.

Care to share what the off ice Sway buzz is? I haven’t read anything anywhere

Just personal stuff

I was a huge Sway guy now I think he’s a fraud and I’m not the only one

Don’t not like him because of me

 

[NDiesel]

$64k is the national average for salaries per year. So by comp, he should accept $150k per year because that's a lot of money by comparison, right?

This is a business and it's always odd to me that organizations can treat it as such but whenever a player does he's labeled as selfish or a piece of shit. In reality, Swayman isn't the one who gave up the leverage. That was the Harvard educated clown in the front office. Some folks here have an issue with a player wanting a fair market deal and negotiating as such, yet are never critical when Sweeney is overpaying some bottom of the roster stiff. I mean really, what's more impactful in a negative way to the team? Overpaying bottom pairing D men like Zadorov and Peeke, and eating bad contracts in trade for a backup goalie and fourth line plug to the tune of millions of dollars, or overpaying a top notch goalie by a little bit?

It's really an amazing dynamic. Rooting for billionaires over the players that perform on the ice, like its your own money.

Who here is rooting for billionaires? I don't think a soul here hopes that Swayman takes less money so that Jacobs can be richer...we want him at fair value so that the team can better compete and most are just not convinced 10m is fair value.

 

[Fenian24]

Those with real jobs know you don’t just give players what they want

And those of us with PTSD from the Sinden years know you to have to pay players. Sweeney screwed up badly by moving Ullmark before signing Swayman and taking Swayman to arbitration last year, and now he is going to pay one way or another.

 

[BlackFrancis]

And those of us with PTSD from the Sinden years know you to have to pay players. Sweeney screwed up badly by moving Ullmark before signing Swayman and taking Swayman to arbitration last year, and now he is going to pay one way or another.

Did Sweeney put the whammy on Swayman's agent, compelling him to file for arbitration last summer?

 

[The Hockey Tonk Man]

Wild to me looking at what proven top goalies are getting paid. With contracts signed fairly recently.
Then looking at swayman wanting to be the highest paid goalie in the league….

Weird look imo. Seems like he’s butt hurt about some stuff that was said in arbitration last year. Man up bud. You had 100 games played then.

*edit. Guy looks like he's out on a tour trying to promote why he's worth $10million haha.

 

[shelbysdad]

Frankly yes. $16-$20 million isn't an insignificant amount.

Look at it as one of us regular folks. Would you accept $40k as a salary when $50k is available? I highly doubt it. The numbers are on a entirely different scale, but players are doing what we all do, trying to get the most pay for the job they do

My family can't live for several years on 40K.....give me 8 M just once and I never have to work again

 

[DKH]

HAHA...... A lot more than what you got for him.

Sweeney probably gets fired over this

Swayman will head of the goalie union if they have one for raising the bar - win a round get $10 M

It’s embarrassing to be a Bruins fan these days / wearing all Celtics stuff now

 

[DKH]

And those of us with PTSD from the Sinden years know you to have to pay players. Sweeney screwed up badly by moving Ullmark before signing Swayman and taking Swayman to arbitration last year, and now he is going to pay one way or another.

Ullmark at 5 M better than Swayman at 10 M

To bad they didn’t take arbitration couldn’t Bruins walk away from award if to high ?

 

[ranold26]

I’m not surprised by the situation and actually expected this.
I mentioned this and why they likely got Korpi back in June. The only thing I’m a little surprised by is that a team didn’t try to offer sheet or trade for him earlier this summer.

So when do the Draisaitl-Swaymsn swap rumors start? I give it less than two weeks, as Draisaitl makes 8.5m, is an upcoming UFA and has imposed a “no extension talk during the season” limit on the Oilers.

Enjoy folks.

 

[DKH]

What is all this leverage Swayman has I been hearing about ?

What is his options ?

 

[NDiesel]

I’m not surprised by the situation and actually expected this.
I mentioned this and why they likely got Korpi back in June. The only thing I’m a little surprised by is that a team didn’t try to offer sheet or trade for him earlier this summer.

So when do the Draisaitl-Swaymsn swap rumors start? I give it less than two weeks, as Draisaitl makes 8.5m, is an upcoming UFA and has imposed a “no extension talk during the season” limit on the Oilers.

Enjoy folks.

I think the fact that no one offer sheeted him either means that:

1) they don't think he's worth the compensation he'd require

2) they don't think he's worth the money he's asking for

I love the dude but if he's actually hoping for 10m I'm not sure...

 

[mjhfb]

No idea what will happen, but thinking if either Korp or Bussi put on a show at camp things will get even more interesting.

 

[LSCII]

Who here is rooting for billionaires? I don't think a soul here hopes that Swayman takes less money so that Jacobs can be richer...we want him at fair value so that the team can better compete and most are just not convinced 10m is fair value.

You and I have gone back and forth on a lot of this already in other threads, so I'm going to try to be succinct. Well, at least for me.

I'd rather they overpay their best players and key guys than the bottom of the roster types. Yet this front office seems content in doing the exact opposite and giving away more money for stiffs that they shouldn't. This is why you don't overpay a bottom pairing defenseman like Zad. This is why taking on a bad contracts in trade for players like Peeke, Kopri, and Kastelic is problematic. They've got millions tied up in the wrong places, IMO. If anything, I'd rather give Swayman more and those guys a shitload less.

 

[DKH]

You and I have gone back and forth on a lot of this already in other threads, so I'm going to try to be succinct. Well, at least for me.

I'd rather they overpay their best players and key guys than the bottom of the roster types. Yet this front office seems content in doing the exact opposite and giving away more money for stiffs that they shouldn't. This is why you don't overpay a bottom pairing defenseman like Zad. This is why taking on a bad contracts in trade for players like Peeke, Kopri, and Kastelic is problematic. They've got millions tied up in the wrong places, IMO. If anything, I'd rather give Swayman more and those guys a shitload less.

If Swayman gets $10 or $11 (I’m hearing $88 M for 8 years - between McAvoy & Pastrnak) I would move Freddy since he’s a UFA next summer for a pick or two

 

[LSCII]

If Swayman gets $10 or $11 (I’m hearing $88 M for 8 years - between McAvoy & Pastrnak) I would move Freddy since he’s a UFA next summer for a pick or two

I'd move anyone if the right price was paid. Freddy is one of those types that everyone seems to think is going to suddenly get it and become this power forward and presence, but what if this is who he is? I think you'd have to look long and hard at moving him before shelling out big bucks long term to a 15 goals per year type of player.

 

[DKH]

I'd move anyone if the right price was paid. Freddy is one of those types that everyone seems to think is going to suddenly get it and become this power forward and presence, but what if this is who he is? I think you'd have to look long and hard at moving him before shelling out big bucks long term to a 15 goals per year type of player.

Glue guy though

You get those types you keep them

Glue and character guys where I land

If the player is both a glue and character and blocks shots I’ll find room

That’s Freddy

 

[Therick67]

Jacobs is a multibillionaire. He doesnt HAVE to charge $60 for parking at the Garden. He could make it free for diehard lifelong fans with a paid ticket.

But he doesn't because he wants to make every possible cent off the backs of poor working class fans.
He should think about that.

They won’t even take the time to fix the ice, they might miss out on some concert revenue

 

[NDiesel]

You and I have gone back and forth on a lot of this already in other threads, so I'm going to try to be succinct. Well, at least for me.

I'd rather they overpay their best players and key guys than the bottom of the roster types. Yet this front office seems content in doing the exact opposite and giving away more money for stiffs that they shouldn't. This is why you don't overpay a bottom pairing defenseman like Zad. This is why taking on a bad contracts in trade for players like Peeke, Kopri, and Kastelic is problematic. They've got millions tied up in the wrong places, IMO. If anything, I'd rather give Swayman more and those guys a shitload less.

But that isn't what I'm really arguing here. I get not liking how they spend their cap, that's a fine opinion to hold here, but I don't really think people who don't agree with that - or in this instance with what Swayman wants - are rooting for billionaires like you said. Just seems like a bit of a jump to think that way - we all just want the team we love to win, myself and I'm sure most others couldn't give a flying f*** about Jacobs or any owner of the team benefitting, but I do care about the Bruins as a team benefitting from a guy taking less.