Jacob582
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Asked this earlier in the week. Someone posted that June 2024 is probably the best time to buy out Skinner. Can we be patient for 2 more seasons after this one?
Player Discussion Jeff Skinner
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Asked this earlier in the week. Someone posted that June 2024 is probably the best time to buy out Skinner. Can we be patient for 2 more seasons after this one?
HaNotsri
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I think Skinner should be the first in line for the bus to Rochester. We have so many prospects on elcs that it won't be a problem the coming two seasons.
If Skinner was playing decent hockey I could see us keeping him beyond that until we really need the space but he's a disaster.
Woodhouse
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I like to pretend Skinner doesn't exist with my posts (man do I hate that contract length), but every time he plays lazy defense, overhandles, or passes to the other team, he reaffirms his whipping boy status with me.
he’s the ultimate whipping boy. huge contract that he immediately failed to live up to and has even managed to regress since, doesn’t play defense, constantly turns the puck over, lacks intangibles. botts really screwed us over on this one
Jim Bob
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That part where he recited a passage from Paradise Lost was rather surprising.
Bjorky!
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All that being said he's here, and he's a part of our near future. So it's hard to ignore. He's more productive than Moulson was. Which, is 4 million reasons more to, uhm shrug.
Jim Bob
RIP RJ
Find someone that loves you as much as Ralph Krueger hated Jeff Skinner
TheMistyStranger
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Honestly, seeing those numbers, I'm grateful Skinner didn't pull a bogo and "be injured" and "go through so much".
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I don't necessarily think its an 'inverse' relationship, it's that the role that he thrives in (high Ozone starts with line mates who handle the heavy lifting) typically is reserved for ELC type players learning the game. So, to commit a large cap number to fill that role, good teams will fill that role with a cheap young player. They'll get less production (20-25 goals vs 30-35 from Skinner) but spending 1M on cap vs 5-6M (and now 9M).
Jim Bob
RIP RJ
Sabres fans, I'm curious to hear, what has been the biggest cause for Jeff's turnaround this season? Was it slotting him with Tage, shooting luck, health, or something else entirely? (Good to see that he's going from kicking pucks on net to being a 60 point guy and at least looking close to worth what he's getting [even if some posters above mentioned that his production doesn't lead to winning, but I digress]).
EichHart
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A coach that actually realizes he's "Captain Chaos" and allows him to play his game. And in return, Skinner has learned to play his game within the structure that Granato has implemented.
Two word answer: capable coaching
Edit - think of EP's change under Bruce as a starting point.
Building on the Granato praise -
Skinner has also had a couple of quality defensive coverage linemates this year from when he moved into a spot with Thompson and they had Asplund on the other wing for a time, then later when Tuch arrived from IR. Tuch's not with him at the moment, but certainly his ability to play a 200' game with speed on the wing, as well as his enthusiasm has helped. So too has Skinner and Thompson both looking for one another while out there. They were allowed to remain as a stable trio, even when we were looking to maybe shake that up or resume the '70's line to get more balanced scoring. Tuch helped unlock Skinner's confidence. Once Skinner's swagger returned, we saw him doing things we haven't seen since before Ralph. And he's doing things we haven't really seen... ever. Who is expecting him to bust his ass to get stick checks and strip pucks on back pressure? Like... who is this guy now?!?
Also, we know Krueger was a punitive coach. Make what in his mind was a mistake - even if it was an error of commission - and icetime was taken away. Granato's level of trust in the players has allowed them to show up even after mistakes. His style of correcting mistakes is night-and-day constructive compared to Ralph's style. And I'm sure it doesn't hurt that they are trying to play an up-tempo, attacking game with emphasis on scoring off the rush rather than either being a trap team or supremely focused on defense.
tsujimoto74
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It's really that he just stopped being the victim of notorious hockey terrorist Ralph Krueger. Krueger was the aberration, not Skinner. Ralph had Skinner rotating between playing on the 4th line and sitting in the press box, and Skinner never did anything to deserve that beforehand --- he was just playing the game the way he always has.
