Im still not sure you can definitively say it was the wrong call. I think, going back a year, Rangers management really believed they could rebuild on the fly...and weren't going to let a seemingly good circumstance to rebuild the blueline quickly slip through their fingers. Smith was very serviceable through the 2017 playoffs, and Shattenkirk signed here below market value. Regardless of the circumstances, I don't think you can take a look at those moves (and deleting Girardi), and argue that it would've have helped on paper.
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Im still not sure you can definitively say it was the wrong call. I think, going back a year, Rangers management really believed they could rebuild on the fly...and weren't going to let a seemingly good circumstance to rebuild the blueline quickly slip through their fingers. Smith was very serviceable through the 2017 playoffs, and Shattenkirk signed here below market value. Regardless of the circumstances, I don't think you can take a look at those moves (and deleting Girardi), and argue that it would've have helped on paper.
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I know they were rebuilding on the fly, and it looked to be going poorly.
Then they mentioned just rebuilding at the deadline.
Where they are now, since they found/engineered a way to not likely get into great draft position, and given the players that are likely back for next season, plus what is coming up, plus any signings or return on trades, I don't know what they are going to call it but I sure hope some top shelf stuff comes out of all that, even though I'm skeptical that all they end up with is sort of what they already had; a good team that has to supplement themselves every off-season with at least one expensive UFA and/or rent at every trade deadline in order to have a puncher's chance in the playoffs.
Gorton has had a very mixed couple of years.
The staal trade was bad the price paid on Brendan Smith was bad then signing him even though looked good at the time was obviously very bad.
The Stepan trade was good but the choice made at 7 overall was not. Sorry but not a good pick at that spot. I like deAngelo
The Mcdonagh trade was strong but I question whether it should have been done. Should he not have even kept? Seems to me guys like him don’t grow on trees. Will skate wel for years.
Nash and grabner trades were brilliant
The Miller trade was and is a nightmare.
Pionk great find.
Zibanejad trade was and is a steal
Pavelec desharnais mcleod awful moves.
A lot will be determined at this deadline.
The staal trade was bad the price paid on Brendan Smith was bad then signing him even though looked good at the time was obviously very bad.
The Stepan trade was good but the choice made at 7 overall was not. Sorry but not a good pick at that spot. I like deAngelo
The Mcdonagh trade was strong but I question whether it should have been done. Should he not have even kept? Seems to me guys like him don’t grow on trees. Will skate wel for years.
Nash and grabner trades were brilliant
The Miller trade was and is a nightmare.
Pionk great find.
Zibanejad trade was and is a steal
Pavelec desharnais mcleod awful moves.
A lot will be determined at this deadline.
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The Staal trade is still such a head scratcher because he's been so, so good on another team after. Hard to say if that was a bad deal or if Staal just didn't work out here for who can possibly know what reason and now in hindsight the value looks off.
Guys like McD don't grow on trees for sure, I think we'll have a better feeling of how wise moving him was once we see what he gets on the market. I'd guess he's going to get paid as if he's peak 2014 McD, which he really isn't and hasn't been for a while. If he gets paid like that moving him will look a lot smarter. He hasn't really wowed in TB.
Pavelec is fine backup after a shaky start. Desharnais isn't bad if he's used as a spare forward. Mcleod is not very good at all.
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Was the Staal trade "bad" or did AV have no clue how to use the guy? I think the latter. Smith signing was probably at market value and hard judge that retroactively.
Way too early to make that call. WAY. ADA will be lucky to be a 6.
Same trade.
Agree
Pavelec has been fine. DD is a non starter - there wasn't much out there. Mcleod is a body to put in the lineup when there are injuries. None of these guys will be here next year.
Thought the Mcdounagh trade was worse than the Staal trade. Miller>Names. And he got 2 b prospects, and a late 1st for Mcd. Who even knows if Howden or Hajek will make the NHL. When you're trading a #1D you need to at least get a top prospect or a good young player. Based on his tenure so far i doubt Gorton will be able to get that true elite player. He's had his chances but has failed so far.
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Pretty safe to say both of them will be NHLers to some degree Imo, as safe as most. If you want to be totally literal about it, could have gotten Foote instead and we still wouldn't know if he'd be an NHLer until he is one.
I don't think he's had any chances to get elite players at all. Tried to trade up to get both Pettersson and Keller and the owners of the picks wouldn't move them - that says to me he knows an elite talent when he sees one. Every team wants them, they're not moved often.
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Nobody know what the players they got will be. Nobody knows who they draft with the pick or how they use that pick.
But the deal is terrible.
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Those who tend to pause (instead of feeling a need to express immediate gut reaction) and understand that an outcome / true value of a trade takes time to evaluate, do generally give Gorton a very passable grade.
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Calling Howden and Hajek B-level prospects just shows me they don't look any further than draft position.
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I'm not saying Howden will be the next "insert big name power forward in the NHL" but to say he's a throw in B level prospect is silly.
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Well, it's the same flawed reasoning when people want to acquire Galchenyuk "because he's a former top-3 pick so he must be good"
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