Player Discussion Jeff Gorton Part II

[tailgunner]

Dude, what is wrong with you?

Let's try to put this into terms that even you can understand. You claim to be a business owner who has 60 people working for him. You have ONE employee that keeps coming in and making loud statements about anything and everything. And that includes him believing that the world was flat and that the Mars landing was faked. And he continues to do this loudly, over and over and over and over again. And eventually that starts to rub some people the wrong way. And then they start getting into arguments, not so much about his views but that he simply cannot SHUT THE f*** UP. EVER. But they like him. And they take him aside and talk to him. But he continues over and over and over and over again. Loudly. So then the nearest manager talks to him because he is a good worker. But he continues over and over and over and over and over again. Then, whatever it is that you have under you, COO or CFO or what friggin' ever, talks to him. But before he does, he gets buy in from you or from whomever we want pretend is in charge of making widgets or mowing lawns or parking friggin' cars or whatever it is. So he speaks to said employee and tells him that enough is enough as people are coming to the point that they no longer want to work with him or frankly be on the same floor or grounds as him and this is the absolute last warning. BUT HE STILL CANNOT SHUT THE f*** UP. And continues over and over and over again. And then one day, when returning from mowing laws, he mouths off to a guy whose lawnmower broke midway through and was simply not having it. So a fight ensues, fully instigated by a guy THAT CANNOT SHUT THE f*** UP. Then the guy who CANNOT SHUT THE f*** UP and instigated the fight, almost gets into a fight with more employees as they are piling the lawnmowers into the garage.

Confidence building question here.......wait for it.........What is the person responsible for the good of the business going to do?

Phone is ringing. The kettle is on line two waiting to speak to you.

nice story but pure exaggeration on your part because TDA was well liked by his teammates including marc stall who said the nicest things about him

Ex-Rangers player Tony DeAngelo bares soul in interview

 

[True Blue]

nice story but pure exaggeration on your part because TDA was well liked by his teammates including marc stall who said the nicest things about him

3GKALTEX4JL410232

Are you really this much of a cretin? Yes, he was liked in the locker room. But the act wore thin and then evaporated. Then he crossed the lines. A LOT of lines. THEN he got into one fight with a teammate and almost into several others. However liked he was, it did not stop several of his teammates to take him aside multiple times.

He was a model citizen for 1.5 years. He then got paid and decided to crank it to 11. And because he cranked it to 11, he is on the outside looking in not just of the team, but the entire NHL. And frankly the entire AHL as well.

It is not just a nice story. It is pretty much a synopsis of what happened.

 

[tailgunner]

Are you really this much of a cretin? Yes, he was liked in the locker room. But the act wore thin and then evaporated. Then he crossed the lines. A LOT of lines. THEN he got into one fight with a teammate and almost into several others. However liked he was, it did not stop several of his teammates to take him aside multiple times.

He was a model citizen for 1.5 years. He then got paid and decided to crank it to 11. And because he cranked it to 11, he is on the outside looking in not just of the team, but the entire NHL. And frankly the entire AHL as well.

It is not just a nice story. It is pretty much a synopsis of what happened.

that's fair and accurate true blue

but at the end of the day we are a way worse team without Tony, and Tony did nothing outrageous enough to deserve his firing
in fact you need nut jobs like Tony to make a team better and too fight and go through a wall. we have zero of that right now

 

[True Blue]

that's fair and accurate true blue

but at the end of the day we are a way worse team without Tony, and Tony did nothing outrageous enough to deserve his firing
in fact you need nut jobs like Tony to make a team better and too fight and go through a wall. we have zero of that right now

Times like this, I harken back to Unforgiven with Clint Eastwood. He kills Little Bill and as Bill lies there dying he looks up and Eastwood and says "I don't deserve to die like this". To which Eastwood replies "Deserve ain't got nothing to do with it."

The Rangers are worse without the Tony from last year. The Rangers are much better without the Tony of this year. Not sure that this can be put any plainer, but DeAngelo is on the verge of basically being blackballed from the entire NHL. And any system associated with the NHL in North America. That should tell you something. This is not a Ranger thing. It is well, well beyond that.

 

[Tawnos]

nice story but pure exaggeration on your part because TDA was well liked by his teammates including marc stall who said the nicest things about him

Ex-Rangers player Tony DeAngelo bares soul in interview

The only thing Marc Staal's point-of-view matters with here is that it's evidence that something changed since last year, and perhaps that he was someone who had some moderating influence on DeAngelo.

 

[ETTER DE]

Maybe we too will soon be lucky enough to ride a single playoff round victory as a sign of being a good team
Columbus has accomplished remarkably little of actual value with him. JG is heads and shoulders better.

What has Gorton done?
Ruined a good team in two years so they had to tear it down?

 

[tailgunner]

for all you tony haters check out this video, esp at the .31 mark

 

[Miamipuck]

The hot takes are only getting hotter.

 

[True Blue]

for all you tony haters check out this video, esp at the .31 mark

Time to lower the Shield of Silence. Clearly you are simply not hearing anything other than the sound of your own voice.

 

[NYSPORTS]

Draft picks are completely useless if they don't turn into serviceable NHL talent. Gorton has been given a lot of rope, so far I'm not optimistic but we have to wait to see how they pan out. His neck is on the line for sure

At the moment, you cannot blame him for drafting Laf and Kakko who are still teenagers. We can’t make a case the Rangers should have drafted others nor can we say the teenagers won’t get better.

Chytil is developing yet didn’t look this good as a teenager,

Fox is a hit and older than those mentioned.

Miller looks good and Nils is apparently looking really good.

Krav - we will see.

Not sue how Gordon’s neck is on the line when the players listed above appear to all be on schedule and i’m not sure how we can pinpoint which players he should have selected which would have made a huge difference so far. The Bruins for years have beaten most of the league.

 

[haveandare]

What has Gorton done?
Ruined a good team in two years so they had to tear it down?

Built the core of a very good Boston team and realized this teams window was closed and laid a foundation for a new one.

Sather sold the future trying to win for years, and he got very close in his defense. Gorton had to come in and clean that up. He hasn’t been perfect but pretending like the team was built in a sustainable way when he got here and he just messed it up isn’t in line with reality. This is the life cycle of most teams by far.

And Gorton has won the same amount of playoff rounds here as Kekaleinan has in Columbus despite the fact Gorton has been rebuilding this team for most of his time here.

 

[ETTER DE]

I am not advocating Kekalainen. Just saying that JD seems to like him. Most like to hire people they know and trust.

 

[rdhstlr23]

Dude, what is wrong with you?

Let's try to put this into terms that even you can understand. You claim to be a business owner who has 60 people working for him. You have ONE employee that keeps coming in and making loud statements about anything and everything. And that includes him believing that the world was flat and that the Mars landing was faked. And he continues to do this loudly, over and over and over and over again. And eventually that starts to rub some people the wrong way. And then they start getting into arguments, not so much about his views but that he simply cannot SHUT THE f*** UP. EVER. But they like him. And they take him aside and talk to him. But he continues over and over and over and over again. Loudly. So then the nearest manager talks to him because he is a good worker. But he continues over and over and over and over and over again. Then, whatever it is that you have under you, COO or CFO or what friggin' ever, talks to him. But before he does, he gets buy in from you or from whomever we want pretend is in charge of making widgets or mowing lawns or parking friggin' cars or whatever it is. So he speaks to said employee and tells him that enough is enough as people are coming to the point that they no longer want to work with him or frankly be on the same floor or grounds as him and this is the absolute last warning. BUT HE STILL CANNOT SHUT THE f*** UP. And continues over and over and over again. And then one day, when returning from mowing laws, he mouths off to a guy whose lawnmower broke midway through and was simply not having it. So a fight ensues, fully instigated by a guy THAT CANNOT SHUT THE f*** UP. Then the guy who CANNOT SHUT THE f*** UP and instigated the fight, almost gets into a fight with more employees as they are piling the lawnmowers into the garage.

Confidence building question here.......wait for it.........What is the person responsible for the good of the business going to do?

Phone is ringing. The kettle is on line two waiting to speak to you.

I just gotta say. This may be the best analogy ever written in the history of message boards, let alone hfb.

 

[tailgunner]

I just gotta say. This may be the best analogy ever written in the history of message boards, let alone hfb.

you must not read too often

 

[Overcast]

I don't see anyone but Drury getting the next GM spot with the Rangers, and I don't think it's really an impending thing.

 

[rdhstlr23]

you must not read too often

I don’t. Still fantastic.

 

[Shesterkybomb]

Tony's stats last season

68 games 53 points and a plus 12

4th highest scoring d-man in the NHL

let that sink in a little

What are his stats this year....ill wait for your answer.

 

[NYR]

I don’t. Still fantastic.

Well then..Your eyes should start burning shortly lol

 

[aufheben]

Holy shit, are people seriously still talking about DeAngelo?

The kid was a jackass at his workplace and got fired. That is *literally* all there is to it.

 

[Miamipuck]

Holy shit, are people seriously still talking about DeAngelo?

Pretty much yeah

 

[aufheben]

Like, dudeson, DeAngelo isn’t just done with the Rangers, he could be done in the NHL. No one f***ing wants him anywhere near their team.

 

[Harbour Dog]

Like, dudeson, DeAngelo isn’t just done with the Rangers, he could be done in the NHL. No one f***ing wants him anywhere near their team.

It doesn't matter. People are going to be bringing him to "win" arguments for the next decade.

 

[aufheben]

nice story but pure exaggeration on your part because TDA was well liked by his teammates including marc stall who said the nicest things about him

Ex-Rangers player Tony DeAngelo bares soul in interview

“...bares soul in interview”.

What is he f***ing Taylor Swift? ADA is just some asshole from South Jersey who is also good at hockey.

 

[aufheben]

It doesn't matter. People are going to be bringing him to "win" arguments for the next decade.

f***in’ Christ, man, I was one of his biggest fans on here and I haven’t even given the kid one thought between him getting waived and right now.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Like, dudeson, DeAngelo isn’t just done with the Rangers, he could be done in the NHL. No one f***ing wants him anywhere near their team.

Rangers were even willing to accommodate a loan to an AHL team, but none of them wanted him even on their affiliate