Player Discussion Jayden Struble Part 2

[WeThreeKings]

If we took a poll between who you would want between Struble or Harris...who would you choose?
I would say it would be at least 90% would pick Struble.

Harris and it isn't close at all.. I would suspect NHL GMs, scouts and coaches would skew that way.

 

[Paddyjack]

Harris and it isn't close at all.. I would suspect NHL GMs, scouts and coaches would skew that way.

For the moment my answer would be "wait and see". I need to see Struble more before having an opinion. But Harris reminds me of Yannick Weber (Le jeune Veber....), who had a solid carreer true, but I always thought he was simply good without bringing much else.

Still a good thing to have until you have something better.

 

[WeThreeKings]

For the moment my answer would be "wait and see". I need to see Struble more before having an opinion. But Harris reminds me of Yannick Weber (Le jeune Veber....), who had a solid carreer true, but I always thought he was simply good without bringing much else.

Still a good thing to have until you have something better.

Doesn't need to be a fixture for us due to the wealth of D prospects we have but there are many NHL teams who will take Jordan Harris and be very happy having him on their squad.

Smooth skating, 3 zone defenseman with smarts and leadership do not grow on trees.

 

[Tyson]

Doesn't need to be a fixture for us due to the wealth of D prospects we have but there are many NHL teams who will take Jordan Harris and be very happy having him on their squad.

Smooth skating, 3 zone defenseman with smarts and leadership do not grow on trees.

Struble brings every element that Harris brings along with size and toughness.
I know it's way too early to truly make a comparison but to me Harris has no future in the top 6 D on this team. He will eventually be packaged and traded.

 

[WeThreeKings]

Struble brings every element that Harris brings along with size and toughness.
I know it's way too early to truly make a comparison but to me Harris has no future in the top 6 D on this team. He will eventually be packaged and traded.

Harris' Hockey IQ is a massive leap above.. Jordan Harris has been a better defenseman than Struble at every step of his journey.

If we are talking about future as a top 6 D on the team, Struble doesn't have one either.

 

[Tyson]

Harris' Hockey IQ is a massive leap above.. Jordan Harris has been a better defenseman than Struble at every step of his journey.

If we are talking about future as a top 6 D on the team, Struble doesn't have one either.

It will be interesting how all this plays out in the next season or two.

 

[ChesterNimitz]

Struble brings every element that Harris brings along with size and toughness.
I know it's way too early to truly make a comparison but to me Harris has no future in the top 6 D on this team. He will eventually be packaged and traded.

Agreed, as long as the promised avalanche of young, promising defencemen turns out to be true. In any event, Harris has one advantage over all those prospects: he’s actually played in the NHL. I have found in my long time watching this great game that most fans have a tendency to either excessively overestimate or underestimate the promise or their team’s prospects. There seems to be little middle ground. In Harris’ case, it seems to be a case of the latter manifestation/ tendency. In this writer’s opinion, Harris remains a solid prospect. He will never be a Norris candidate (few are) and, if a better prospect/ player comes by, so be it. If not, Harris presents as a solid, mobile defenceman who can be a useful contributor going forward. Bottom line: he’s an asset.

 

[Don D]

Harris' Hockey IQ is a massive leap above.. Jordan Harris has been a better defenseman than Struble at every step of his journey.

If we are talking about future as a top 6 D on the team, Struble doesn't have one either.

True that!!! Harris was the leader of the Northeastern D corps and team captain. Depending on the future makeup of the Habs team, Struble would be a better fit if they will be looking for a physical presence, otherwise, Harris has the better hockey IQ and is more mobile. Either one may be a good 3rd pairing.

 

[Rapala]

We aren't converting any of our defenseman into forwards.

We should we won't get a Unicorn like Arber Xhekaj in a trade.
Our Defense in the future probably will not have Arber Xhekaj on LD.
A converted Buff won a Stanley Cup.
Xhekaj can be a star winger IMO provided he's on board with it.

This is a way to fill a huge hole up front from a position of strength.

 

[Rapala]

EHM brain or something.

It's happened successfully like 2 times in NHL history.

Dude it's not like i's never been done.
It actually makes our team better.

 

[WeThreeKings]

We should we won't get a Unicorn like Arber Xhekaj in a trade.
Our Defense in the future probably will not have Arber Xhekaj on LD.
A converted Buff won a Stanley Cup.
Xhekaj can be a star winger IMO provided he's on board with it.

This is a way to fill a huge hole up front from a position of strength.

Why wouldn't our defense in the future not have Arber on LD?

 

[Rapala]

Why wouldn't our defense in the future not have Arber on LD?

Guhle Hutson Engstrom Struble.

 

[WeThreeKings]

Guhle Hutson Engstrom Struble.

Engstrom can play RD and Struble isn't going to bring anything that Xhekaj doesn't already bring at a better level, so why would Xhekaj be gone for Struble?

 

[Rapala]

Engstrom can play RD and Struble isn't going to bring anything that Xhekaj doesn't already bring at a better level, so why would Xhekaj be gone for Struble?

Struble may end up being the better defender.

 

[WeThreeKings]

Struble may end up being the better defender.

If he does it won't be by enough to matter.

 

[Rapala]

If he does it won't be by enough to matter.

I'm looking at the shortest way we can get from A-B without giving up the decent assets we do have.
Should we end up trading Struble will we get something better on the wing than what Xhekaj can potentially be? I doubt it. Also what will we get by trading Xhekaj that can advance us without weakening us.

 

[WeThreeKings]

I'm looking at the shortest way we can get from A-B without giving up the decent assets we do have.
Should we end up trading Struble will we get something better on the wing than what Xhekaj can potentially be? I doubt it. Also what will we get by trading Xhekaj that can advance us without weakening us.

Yes because we aren't going to develop a defenseman on the wing. It doesn't really happen and when it does happen, it's usually a guy who was doing the thing back in juniors.

Struble isn't anything to galaxy brain ourselves into keeping by putting Arber at forward. Arber has more skills beyond defense in his repertoire that are all a bonus to have on the blueline.

We should be happy if Struble develops himself into a tradeable asset

 

[Sam de Mtl]

If we took a poll between who you would want between Struble or Harris...who would you choose?
I would say it would be at least 90% would pick Struble.

Probably, if we took the poll this week. Probably Harris the previous week. Who knows next week. Depends who makes the nice next play or who messes the next pass.

Should tell you all you need to know about the worth of these polls.

 

[MasterD]

If we took a poll between who you would want between Struble or Harris...who would you choose?
I would say it would be at least 90% would pick Struble.

Yes, but that's because we have a smaller, weaker team all around. I could see other teams picking Harris because of his speed.

I think they hold similar values overall, but pretty different packages when you look at what they bring.

 

[Adriatic]

Struble brings every element that Harris brings along with size and toughness.
I know it's way too early to truly make a comparison but to me Harris has no future in the top 6 D on this team. He will eventually be packaged and traded.

Size lol?? He's barely 6ft tall. I would guess that's smaller than NHL average, maybe even smaller than defenseman average.

 

[MasterD]

Engstrom can play RD and Struble isn't going to bring anything that Xhekaj doesn't already bring at a better level, so why would Xhekaj be gone for Struble?

Struble may end up being the better defender.

If he does it won't be by enough to matter.

I too believe Struble may become the better defender, simply by virtue of being a more stable player.

Xhekaj is flashier, fights (too much), probably brings more offense, but also makes many mistakes in his D coverage.

I think his flashier nature makes Xhekaj more valuable on the trade market, which might be more valuable to the team.

All hypothetical of course, need to see more from Struble at this point in time.

 

[Tyson]

Size lol?? He's barely 6ft tall. I would guess that's smaller than NHL average, maybe even smaller than defenseman average.

6' 205 and built like a tank. Harris is barely bigger than Victor Mete

 

[Adriatic]

6' 205 and built like a tank. Harris is barely bigger than Victor Mete

He's maybe one inch taller than Harris lol. Struble does not bring size to our defense. They are both undersized for NHL defenseman.

 

[NewDef]

Guhle Hutson Engstrom Struble.

Baron, Mailloux, Kovy and Konyushkov + Reinbacher... we've got D future like crazy. Add Xhekaj, Harris and possibly Trudeau... something's got to give.

12d with nhl potential, not all will stay and when we start trading the extras we may see a big improvement in front. Imagin what a prime Harris + 1st could bring? (Better that Newhook)

X as a forward would be an option. Kid, wanna play on your bro's line? Maybe with Tuch? I could see that and I honestly prefer to lose one of 12 forwards in a fight that one of 6 D.

Harris is a good player but he gets pushed around a lot. I'd rather have a 6'4 Kovacevic on the 3rd pair in the playoffs. It means not Harris is bad... on a non-playoff team he'd be great. He's good asset building value while the replacements are learning.

We still have 2 years of slow building before it gets crackin'. Then Beck and Roy are regulars, Dach is on fire, Ylonen gets it and is a staple 15 goals + on the 3rd. Armia, Gally gone. Anderson, Dvorak, Pearson, Savard and Money converted to picks which could be used in trades for upgrades.

This is not 2008...

 

[Mister Hab]

Future is bright:

Guhle - Barron
Hutson - Reinbacher
Struble/Xhekaj - Kovacevic
Engstrom/Harris - Mailloux
Konyushkov - Trudeau

Go Struble Go!!