Player Discussion Jay Beagle

[I in the Eye]

He'll mentor a couple young centers on faceoff techniques , provide much needed leadership in the dressing room

That's good, we can fire Malhotra now.

 

[2011 still hurts]

His agent bluffed Benning with fake offers.

This, everyone's just playing the game

too bad we have a novice representing us at the table but c'est la vie

 

[F A N]

Not an effin chance

so a third of the NHL was considering signing Beagle for 4 years, while younger better centers got less term.
His agent bluffed Benning with fake offers.

Yet you believe there was a bidding war for Beagle or you believe there wasn't one.

 

[krutovsdonut]

interesting mid-season breakdown of beagle by a caps blogger. talks about his extreme defensive deployment last year as a 4th liner and as a drop-in face off guy. i wonder if the canucks went after him as a pure malholtra, or whether they think he will bounce back in less rigid deployment.

Jay Beagle’s workload is not okay

 

[adamzilla]

God I hope they went after him as a pure Malhotra type as there's nothing for him to "bounce back" to. The dude had 22 points last season, 8 less than his career high, I don't expect him to match or exceed 30 points in his life again, and that's fine if he's playing a purely defensive role. But hopefully he's able to find consistent linemates here, whoever they may be.

 

[I in the Eye]

I think they got Beagle for extreme defensive deployment, to free up Sutter for extreme offensive deployment.

 

[member 290103]

I think they got Beagle for extreme defensive deployment, to free up Sutter for extreme offensive deployment.

Which is completely absurd.

 

[I in the Eye]

Which is completely absurd.

Well, yes. It would work as well as it happened to work in the past. However, for the sake of excitement and the feeling of something fresh and new, we can pretend that we don't notice that it's been tried before, or perhaps we can even argue that it didn't work before because of Willie. This is supposed to be the most optimistic point of the season. A fun, feel good time of "what can be" ... and "all things are possible" . It would be great for something that Benning touches to not be turned into sickness and death. It could work, if being polite to not notice that it won't... all thing are possible.

 

[lush]

It's much easier to spend money and fix things like a crappy PK. Sounds like it's fairly certain he will do that

 

[RobertKron]

I think they got Beagle for extreme defensive deployment, to free up Sutter for extreme offensive deployment.

Can’t wait to see who they overpay for next year to free up Beagle for more offensive looks. Maybe they’ll go back to the oldies and shift Horvat to the 4th line.

 

[Jay Cee]

Corsi guys are never going to be able to square the circle of guys with extreme defensive deployment. That's not to say that Beagle was a good pickup for us at this time. He is a minor upgrade on Brendan "LOL 0 goals" Gaunce for 3 milx4 and because of that we are kind of stuck with him.

 

[alternate]

Any tracking of how many times Beagle took a defensive draw and then changed on the fly once the puck crossed the red line? Considering he took over 40% of all 5v5 defensive zone draws, and played with a bushel full of wingers, and the Caps have some high octane offensive options, I'd bet he went "faceoff, clear, change" as much as anyone in the league. Have to think that impacted his corsi at least a little bit.

 

[PuckMunchkin]

Corsi guys are never going to be able to square the circle of guys with extreme defensive deployment. That's not to say that Beagle was a good pickup for us at this time. He is a minor upgrade on Brendan "LOL 0 goals" Gaunce for 3 milx4 and because of that we are kind of stuck with him.

Why are corsi guys not able to... something something?
You can take a look at someones corsi stats and then take a look at his zone starts and compare the two. Dont understand your point.

 

[M2Beezy]

Think i would have been happier with 3 years but i guess management saw something in him that will make it worth the extra year. Not a team braker or anything and hopefully works out

 

[RobertKron]

Any tracking of how many times Beagle took a defensive draw and then changed on the fly once the puck crossed the red line? Considering he took over 40% of all 5v5 defensive zone draws, and played with a bushel full of wingers, and the Caps have some high octane offensive options, I'd bet he went "faceoff, clear, change" as much as anyone in the league. Have to think that impacted his corsi at least a little bit.

IIRC, with Malhotra, this was reflected in the differential between shifts beginning in the D zone and ending in the offensive zone.

 

[F A N]

Think i would have been happier with 3 years but i guess management saw something in him that will make it worth the extra year. Not a team braker or anything and hopefully works out

It's probably better to expect that the team's UFA signings wouldn't be good in their last year or even the year before that. Even with Gillis' signings, the players that he signed with full NTCs were looking like terrible contracts by their 2nd last year. This is really nothing new. If the team is lucky, Beagle is going to have two great years, and be a severely overpaid but still a legitimate 4th line C in his last two years.

 

[me2]

Think i would have been happier with 3 years but i guess management saw something in him that will make it worth the extra year.

Probably they same thing they saw in Gagner.

 

[Zippgunn]

I find it deeply ironic that the Burrows retirement thread often references Burrows rise from the ECHL to the NHL as some sort of wonderful thing that mitigates the endless parade of sleazy moves the guy pulled during his career but Beagle's record of winning the championship there, plus the AHL, plus the NHL counts for nothing here. Maybe Beagle should bite somebody to get in good with Canuck fans...

 

[M2Beezy]

I find it deeply ironic that the Burrows retirement thread often references Burrows rise from the ECHL to the NHL as some sort of wonderful thing that mitigates the endless parade of sleazy moves the guy pulled during his career but Beagle's record of winning the championship there, plus the AHL, plus the NHL counts for nothing here. Maybe Beagle should bite somebody to get in good with Canuck fans...

D.R.A.G.O.N
S.L.A.Y.E.R

Get out a here with that crap

 

[Melvin]

I can see how a Canucks fan would be confused as to why Alex Burrows would be more popular than Jay Beagle. It is truly a mind bender.

 

[Hit the post]

D.R.A.G.O.N
S.L.A.Y.E.R

Get out a here with that crap

It wasn't THAT bad a movie. It was a fairly dark movie (by Disney standards - movie came out before the Disney non-G rated movie production company "Touchstone Pictures" was created I believe). Not great but again given that it was a "Disney movie", ok.

 

[Peter10]

I find it deeply ironic that the Burrows retirement thread often references Burrows rise from the ECHL to the NHL as some sort of wonderful thing that mitigates the endless parade of sleazy moves the guy pulled during his career but Beagle's record of winning the championship there, plus the AHL, plus the NHL counts for nothing here. Maybe Beagle should bite somebody to get in good with Canuck fans...

Did you even think before hammering the down the keyboard? Beagle played a grand total of 8 ECHL regular season games where he had 10 points. Then in 18 playoff games he managed just 3 points - seems like a true post season warrior!!!

And by the way, Burrows scored almost as many points as Beagle had NHL games under his belt.

 

[Siludin]

I remember a mid-season interview with Ferraro talking about Beagle and how he has/had been a "glue guy" in Washington for the past number of years. I guess you can't put a price tag on a team playing like a team.

 

[moog35]

Welcome to Vancouver Jay

We’re excited to have you

 

[M2Beezy]

I remember a mid-season interview with Ferraro talking about Beagle and how he has/had been a "glue guy" in Washington for the past number of years. I guess you can't put a price tag on a team playing like a team.

Good to know. I thought there was something more going on with this guy