Doug Prishpreed
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If the ROR trade was "all on Pegula," then why? The bonus? That's Melnyk level bullshit.
Botts would've been a perfect GM for Ottawa under Melnyk.
Botts would've been a perfect GM for Ottawa under Melnyk.
Kane went to a better team with a better coach and an older line-up. It was the right type of place for a player like Kane. Plus, he seems happier in the bigger West Coast environment.
Lehner got well and added the best goalie coach in hockey.
ROR is still ROR, just with a better overall line-up, and a better goalie.
Not tore up about Kane. He had to go for numerous reasons. Lehner's issues can't be laid on Murray or Botterill. Probably could foresee his issues developing, or foresee him getting well and tearing it up.
ROR was just a silly trade.
I don't understand this reasoning. They had the tools to fix all 3 if they chose. Kane wasn't worth it to me as I don't value his hockey sense. We don't know the real issue with ROR. Was he that depressing, did he demand a trade, was his dad that much of a pain in the ass? But I'm sure there was a way around it. And Lehner could have went to rehab here and got clean. He would still be playing in this system though instead of the Isles which is much more goalie friendly but he could have been back too.
I'd figure the embarrassing season, ROR being one of the few older players with any semblence of trade value, and eventually the comments, are the reasons why organizationally they wanted to try a huge shake up trade like that and move on from ROR... which is fine as long as the return was good...If the ROR trade was "all on Pegula," then why? The bonus? That's Melnyk level bull****.
Botts would've been a perfect GM for Ottawa under Melnyk.
Thank you for this. As one of many stuck in the limbo between millennial and Gen Z, my understanding of any written topic increases factorially as a function of # of emojis usedSummarizing summer 2017 and summer 2018
Summer 2017
Eichel to everyone who would listen: “**** this!”
Pegula to Murray: “Eichel is upset, what are you gonna do about that?”
Murray: “uhhhh.....”
Pegula: “you’re all fired!”
Eichel:
Summer 2018
ROR to everyone who would listen: “this is not good”
Pegula to Botterill: “ROR is upset, what are you gonna do about this?”
Botts: “RORs the problem, gotta trade him”
Pegula: “brilliant! do it before the bonus”
ROR:
Botts: You're breakin' my balls, Doug, I don't know, this is Ryan O'Rielly we're talking about, faceoff defensive zone specialist..Summarizing summer 2017 and summer 2018
Summer 2017
Eichel to everyone who would listen: “**** this!”
Pegula to Murray: “Eichel is upset, what are you gonna do about that?”
Murray: “uhhhh.....”
Pegula: “you’re all fired!”
Eichel:
Summer 2018
ROR to everyone who would listen: “this is not good”
Pegula to Botterill: “ROR is upset, what are you gonna do about this?”
Botts: “RORs the problem, gotta trade him”
Pegula: “brilliant! do it before the bonus”
ROR:
I’ve always agreed with this. Murray did not know how to run an organization...
I disagree. His hubris was in his belief that putting a talented roster together and hiring someone to coach it, was the entirety of his job.
Side bar: Draisaitl is a pretty terrible player when away from McDavid.
There’s no defending Murray’s overall tenure... the biggest problems of which you identified in your first few paragraphs.... It is worth recognizing that the elements of Murray’s tenure that got the loudest criticism, actually pale in comparison to those same elements of Botts tenure (trades).
Is there any CBA accommodations for GM cranium circumference?
I assume any extra advertising he can plaster on his forehead doesn't count as Hockey Related Revenue. Dotcom will have to confirm per usual.
Pretty much all of the underlying numbers favour the Botterill teams over the Tim Murray teams. The biggest reason reason that the Tim Murray teams had more points was far better goaltending.
So.
Who here feels good that Botterill is:
A) Selecting coach #2
B) Could be trading Ristolainen for a -TBD- return
C) Getting a third crack at not only playoffs, but even just passing Murray/Bylsma's 78 and 79 points.[/QUOT
I’m good with it all.
I'm good with it all
So.
Who here feels good that Botterill is:
A) Selecting coach #2
B) Could be trading Ristolainen for a -TBD- return
C) Getting a third crack at not only playoffs, but even just passing Murray/Bylsma's 78 and 79 points.
So.
Who here feels good that Botterill is:
A) Selecting coach #2
B) Could be trading Ristolainen for a -TBD- return
C) Getting a third crack at not only playoffs, but even just passing Murray/Bylsma's 78 and 79 points.
I'd like a sense of what the plan is....What is our timeline? High level execution strategy?....Instead we get obvious statements like "Defense could be better.....need depth scoring...."
I want to know when he believes we will be competitive....even if that is a statement like "We plan to be competitive every night and the playoffs we believe are within reach, but maybe another year or two away from being a top club in this league." We can read between the lines. Then execute around that timeline.
His moves and his words seem to suggest someone throwing jelly at the wall and hoping it sticks. I don't think he knows what our timeline is, it changes constantly depending on near term results.