Player Discussion Jake DeBrusk VII

[Yeti34]

He's never had more than 27 in a season, but it’s most likely he gets 30-40?

more likely than it being a fluke year as the other poster alluded to yes. I also expect him to get some more PP time this year with Hall gone. 30+ would be an easy bet for him. He was on pace for it last year. He seems to have put all the pieces together.

 

[DiggityDog]

He's never had more than 27 in a season, but its most likely he gets 30-40?

He did so with 18 games missed. I don’t think it’s out of left field to say he could give 30+ in a fully healthy season.

40 is bit much though.

 

[JoeIsAStud]

I do expect Debrusk's contract extension will get done this offseason. Some chance they instead deal him, but I expect an extension announced in September. Debrusk gives up some potential upside, for long term security, 6/33

 

[JEM28]

I think you're looking at 7-7.5 mil depending on what kind of season he has. Unless you lock him up for 7-8 years I can't see him getting 6.5 mil or less.

We always say we like guys who elevate their game in the playoffs, and he's a guy who always seems to score some clutch goals.

All good points but if your range is right I think he’s as good as gone. Just don’t see this FO laying out that kind of coin for him.

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

All good points but if you’re range is right I think he’s as good as gone. Just don’t see this FO laying out that kind of coin for him.

Why not? He’s the second best wing under 30 we have. Big cap jump coming. Two top 9 ELCs next year minimum, 3 if Poitras gets there. Plus an ELC on the back end. Lines up age wise perfectly with the McAvoy/Pasta/Swayman/Carlo/Lindholm/Zacha core. It’s a no brainer.

 

[DKH]

He is too one dimensional for big money. Without Bergy and Krech, I can see him really struggling. That said, I think the Islander rumors are nonsense.

One dimensional? Like he can’t play off wing or special teams ?

Your declaration/guarantee the 135 point Bruins would miss the not important regular season playoffs gives me hope DeBrusk gets 35 goals this season

 

[DKH]

If Jake can get 6.5+ for 4 or more he’s a goner.

DeBrusk is like those 235 year old sea tortoises

He’s been up and down more than a first month mother

There is 0.0 they are not trying to keep him - going atleast 6 years and $6.5 M

He is only leaving if he wants to

They would drop 6/40 on him tomorrow morning in a heartbeat

He’s fully developed and is multi-dimensional able to play WITH talent, off wing, and both special teams

 

[JEM28]

Why not? He’s the second best wing under 30 we have. Big cap jump coming. Two top 9 ELCs next year minimum, 3 if Poitras gets there. Plus an ELC on the back end. Lines up age wise perfectly with the McAvoy/Pasta/Swayman/Carlo/Lindholm/Zacha core. It’s a no brainer.

Why not? I don’t think the FO has the affinity for 74 that you do. I could def be wrong, and this season may be impactful to their view of him and his value.

I’ll admit when I scan guys with an avg hit of $6.5m there are numerous names I’d take Jake over. But I’m not GM.

Time will tell.

 

[bruins4thecup65]

Been seeing articles online that DeBrusk rumoured to go to NYI for Pageau, no idea if its true or not

 

[Gonzothe7thDman]

Been seeing articles online that DeBrusk rumoured to go to NYI for Pageau, no idea if its true or not

In the future you should be citing your sources


But that isn't a legitimate rumor and has already been discussed in this thread

 

[Yeti34]

Why not? I don’t think the FO has the affinity for 74 that you do. I could def be wrong, and this season may be impactful to their view of him and his value.

I’ll admit when I scan guys with an avg hit of $6.5m there are numerous names I’d take Jake over. But I’m not GM.

Time will tell.

Like who? I’m looking at the list and see maybe 1-2 based on position but they are older.

 

[ON3M4N]

Been seeing articles online that DeBrusk rumoured to go to NYI for Pageau, no idea if its true or not

Its not a rumor at all. Here is what I had posted in the off-season thread about it:

Here is how this became a rumor:

- Kevin Kurz who covers the Islander for the Athletic said:

"GM Lou Lamoriello hinted at the potential for more “hockey trades” during his press conference on July 1st."

- NYI Hockey Now writer runs with this statement and writes and article basically saying:

The Islanders could open trade talks by offering a package of Pageau and Wahlstrom to the Bruins in exchange for DeBrusk because DeBrusk asked for a trade a couple of years ago

So its just some random writer throwing stuff against he wall to generate articles for their crappy website. The funny thing is Rosen also writes for NYI Hockey Now.....the same place that the "rumor" started from. This is also the same company that has Boston Hockey Now with Jimmy Thin Skin as their superstar writer. That should tell you just how much credibility they have.

Why not? I don’t think the FO has the affinity for 74 that you do. I could def be wrong, and this season may be impactful to their view of him and his value.

I’ll admit when I scan guys with an avg hit of $6.5m there are numerous names I’d take Jake over. But I’m not GM.

Time will tell.

I think they like Jake very much. Remember when DeBrusk asked for a trade and they refused to move him for below market value? Instead they gave him a 2yr/$4 million extension.

 

[missingchicklet]

DeBrusk is like those 235 year old sea tortoises

He’s been up and down more than a first month mother

There is 0.0 they are not trying to keep him - going atleast 6 years and $6.5 M

He is only leaving if he wants to

They would drop 6/40 on him tomorrow morning in a heartbeat

He’s fully developed and is multi-dimensional able to play WITH talent, off wing, and both special teams

I agree. 6x6.5M is about what I am thinking would be a good deal for both parties if he signed that deal today. Been saying since last season that my concern is that Jake will bet on himself and put up his best numbers yet next season, increasing his value to $7M+. Would be grand if the Bs could get him locked up sooner rather than later. Jake, who does have some injury concerns, gets a good contract providing security and the Bs are able to keep an important talented component of the team. Win/win.

Your point about being fully developed is important. It makes no sense to develop a top line player such as a Jake only to move him once he starts entering his peak. Those are the players you cherish and do what you can to keep.

I get the sense that there are more than a few fans who do not fully understand Jake's importance to the team moving forward. He has a skillset that is unique on the Bs, so it's not like he is some kind of costly redundant luxury. Core as far as I am concerned, and I will be very disappointed if he decides to leave/Bs don't do what it takes within reason to re-sign him.

 

[DKH]

I agree. 6x6.5M is about what I am thinking would be a good deal for both parties if he signed that deal today. Been saying since last season that my concern is that Jake will bet on himself and put up his best numbers yet next season, increasing his value to $7M+. Would be grand if the Bs could get him locked up sooner rather than later. Jake, who does have some injury concerns, gets a good contract providing security and the Bs are able to keep an important talented component of the team. Win/win.

Your point about being fully developed is important. It makes no sense to develop a top line player such as a Jake only to move him once he starts entering his peak. Those are the players you cherish and do what you can to keep.

I get the sense that there are more than a few fans who do not fully understand Jake's importance to the team moving forward. He has a skillset that is unique on the Bs, so it's not like he is some kind of costly redundant luxury. Core as far as I am concerned, and I will be very disappointed if he decides to leave/Bs don't do what it takes within reason to re-sign him.

Great post

Donny should fire over that or just tweek a tad to 6/40 NMC 1-4 years and then 15 last 2 seasons

Get that out of way and ask Pastrnak who’s at Warrior what’s your buddy Nylander think of Boston

Be nice in 24-25 to have three 27 year-olds in top 4 wingers like pasta, Willie, and Jake

 

[KrejciMVP]

still cant fathom 7 mill for a mid 40s point player. Id let another team pay that.

 

[CharasLazyWrister]

I really like Jake and it’s very difficult for me to see him getting paid in the 7’s. He would need to have a monster year to justify that IMO.

Which, by the way, he is totally capable of. He is not short of talent.

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

still cant fathom 7 mill for a mid 40s point player. Id let another team pay that.

I mean he had 50 points in 64 games last year. With 26 goals. With over 1:20 shorthanded TOI per game.

 

[DKH]

Been seeing articles online that DeBrusk rumoured to go to NYI for Pageau, no idea if its true or not

An islander fan came up with it looking to get rid of Pageau contract and Whalstrom who hates Lou for his QO

 

[missingchicklet]

I really like Jake and it’s very difficult for me to see him getting paid in the 7’s. He would need to have a monster year to justify that IMO.

Which, by the way, he is totally capable of. He is not short of talent.

If he somehow is able to play the full season and if Bergy is back I think Jake will definitely be setting career highs in offensive stats. He is trending up. Great second half of 21-22. Last season 27 goals (50 pts) while missing 18 games. Dude was scorching hot before his injury. Playoffs he put up 4 goals in 7 games. Throw in this coming season will be a contract year for Jake. Barring injury, I will be surprised if Jake doesn't have a career season in multiple areas.

 

[CellyHard]

I really like Jake and it’s very difficult for me to see him getting paid in the 7’s. He would need to have a monster year to justify that IMO.

Which, by the way, he is totally capable of. He is not short of talent.

Thats why I would try locking him up at 6.5 on a long term deal. Jake could easily skip the 30 goal mark and hit the 40's. He is that good IMO and I feel like he hasn't scrapped the surface of what he could bring just through the difficult COVID times and injuries.

In other words, I could see him having like a Jared McCann type of year. He was drafted one year earlier than JD. Two years ago he had 27 goals (just like Jake this year) and then boom 40 goals this year. Jake could easily follow that path.

Not saying he would be a consistent 40 goal scorer but he is capable and now you are paying him as one

 

[CharasLazyWrister]

I mean he had 50 points in 64 games last year. With 26 goals. With over 1:20 shorthanded TOI per game.

I get he had a really nice year last season (where the Bruins were great and scoring skyrocketed league wide), but even given his age, is the risk not too much for a 7’s contract given his overall historical performance?

If the decision had to be made this offseason and not next, I would not be giving him anywhere close to 7 million AAV.

Thats why I would try locking him up at 6.5 on a long term deal. Jake could easily skip the 30 goal mark and hit the 40's. He is that good IMO and I feel like he hasn't scrapped the surface of what he could bring just through the difficult COVID times and injuries.

In other words, I could see him having like a Jared McCann type of year. He was drafted one year earlier than JD. Two years ago he had 27 goals (just like Jake this year) and then boom 40 goals this year. Jake could easily follow that path.

Not saying he would be a consistent 40 goal scorer but he is capable and now you are paying him as one

He’s deifnitely got the potential for 40 goals, but I have a hard time stomaching a contract based on hope.

Just seen that backfire way too many times.

Last thing we want is a contract that likely requires significant retainment if it comes to moving it in the future.

 

[DKH]

still cant fathom 7 mill for a mid 40s point player. Id let another team pay that.

He scored 37 goals last 82 games

Missed 16 games after breaking foot in winter classic (he scored both goals) and played final 5 months with a fracture

So
A - you say he’s a 40 point guy

B I say he’s a three-time 25+ season goal scorer by age 26

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

I get he had a really nice year last season (where the Bruins were great and scoring skyrocketed league wide), but even given his age, is the risk not too much for a 7’s contract given his overall historical performance?

If the decision had to be made this offseason and not next, I would not be giving him anywhere close to 7 million AAV.



He’s deifnitely got the potential for 40 goals, but I have a hard time stomaching a contract based on hope.

Just seen that backfire way too many times.

Last thing we want is a contract that likely requires significant retainment if it comes to moving it in the future.

You have to use comparisons to what the league is giving though. He's not getting Debrincat money. But holding the line in the 5s or something like that ignores what players like him are getting. Especially at his age, and with his recent performance. Complementary scoring wingers are getting 6%-8% of the cap. With the cap going up, the amount those guys are going to get is going up as well.

 

[DKH]

I mean he had 50 points in 64 games last year. With 26 goals. With over 1:20 shorthanded TOI per game.

27 goals in 64 games and 10 his last 18 in 2022-23

37 in 82 games

Oh and Bergy & Marshy mentioned how easy it is to play with him he’s always in the right place he fit seemlessly

Yeh sorry folks but unless you already have Nylander signed I’m paying DeBrusk 7 M

However I think you can get him $6.5 M

You have to use comparisons to what the league is giving though. He's not getting Debrincat money. But holding the line in the 5s or something like that ignores what players like him are getting. Especially at his age, and with his recent performance. Complementary scoring wingers are getting 6%-8% of the cap. With the cap going up, the amount those guys are going to get is going up as well.

You want to prorate the two seasons he got 27 comes out to 33-34 goals

Sweens is usually lock step with me so I’m going 6/40 1-4 NMC

 

[Smitty93]

I don't see what comparables would put him at $6.5M. Most of the guys I'd compare him to have gotten around 6.75% of the cap, which would put him at $5.9M with the estimated $87.5M cap. That for 5-6 years seems much more reasonable for a guy who's mostly been the 3rd best player on a top 6 line any time he's had success.