Player Discussion Jake DeBrusk VII

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It looks to me like Jake's lack of scoring is one of the reasons Montgomery keeps shaking up the lines. He's a top-six player having a pretty serious scoring drought, and it seems like the staff is moving him around trying to find some player chemistry that will spark his offense.
Jake is not the reason Monty keeps shaking up the lines, Monty is the reason that he keeps shaking up the lines. he cannot help himself.
 

The numbers haven’t looked good for Jake DeBrusk. In the thick of his seventh NHL season, the Bruins winger is paid first and foremost to score goals, because, well, that’s what scorers are paid to do. That’s why DeBrusk makes $4 million a year.

After Tuesday night’s 4-3 overtime loss to the Wild at TD Garden, however, the 27-year-old DeBrusk hasa mere four goals in 29 games. Not nearly good enough for a guy who lines up most nights with the club’s most talented and productive forwards and averages just over 17 minutes of ice time.

Four goals. For one of the league’s fastest skaters. For a guy who last season equaled his career high for goals (27) and established a career high in points (50).

Where’d that Jake DeBrusk go?

As of Tuesday morning, 267 NHLers — an average of more than eight per team — had more goals than DeBrusk. Seven Bruinshad more than four , including rookie pivot Matt Poitras (five), who boarded a flight Monday night to play in the World Junior Championship.

By coach Jim Montgomery’s eye, what he’s seeing from DeBrusk is not all bad. The second-year Bruins bench boss believes in the power of positivity.

Montgomery would find some redeemable touch in the hands that Venus de Milo lost. It’s why guys like playing for him. The ugly is just the starting point of beauty in Monty’s world. It’s why he’s here in the wake of Bruce Cassidy, whose public player evaluations were, shall we say, decidedly blunter and edgier.

“Umm,” Montgomery mused Tuesday morning when asked if he felt DeBrusk was using his best asset, speed, to create opportunities or if DeBrusk simply was fighting the puck. “I don’t think he’s, uhhh . . . I will say that I thought last game was one of his better games of the year — as far as his habits and details. And I thought it translated with some of the [scoring] looks that he got.”

DeBrusk went 0-0–0 on Saturday during the 17:19 he logged against the Rangers. He landed four shots on net, one below his season high, so he was at least “around it,” in hockey parlance.

When he’s flying, legs in full roadrunner mode, darting in off either wing, DeBrusk can be a legit scoring threat and menace off the rush. He is not, though, one to manufacture goals down low. Staking out a piece of ice and pushing his way to the front isn’t his game.

If he could add some feisty, sandpaper presence to his game, DeBrusk might not see protracted goal droughts such as his current one or the eight-game slump to start this season (0-3–3, 15 shots on net).

Truth is, more than 400 regular-season games into his career, it’s fair to assume the DeBrusk die has been cast. He’ll get his goals his way or not at all, and this season, it’s mostly been not at all.

He once more logged 0-0–0 and landed but one shot in 17:01 vs. the Wild. Worse, his last shift set up the Wild’s OT winner. DeBrusk fired wide from the left circle with 2:13 to go, leading directly to Minnesota’s three-on-one rush up the opposite wing. All of 0:07 after DeBrusk’s misfire, Kirill Kaprizov finished off the gimme rush with the game-winner. Ouch.

“Gotta get that on net,” said Montgomery. “And I don’t like the shot selection … and I don’t like both guys [DeBrusk and Charlie Coyle] going to the net all the way to the goal line. That’s what gives up the three on one the other way.”

Somewhere recently, though, Montgomery saw DeBrusk in the right time and place, puck on his stick, cutting toward the net.

“I thought for sure he was going to wire it,” the coach recalled. “Last game? Or two games ago? I’m not sure. But it was the off wing and he came down, and I thought, ‘Oh, this is going to be a really good shot.’ And he didn’t shoot it . . . I think he thought. And when you think, in that split second, the opening to shoot is gone.”

The season’s midpoint is fast approaching. DeBrusk needs to score. Whether the issue is his legs, his hands, or a mind that thinks too much (or too little in the case of the OT miscue), the numbers are adding up to a bad season.
 
He’s consistently inconsistent. I’m ready to move on because he has all the skills but I worry that he has issues between the ears and if everything isn’t going perfectly he has issues with pushing through the diversity.

This, 18 months ago.
 
Well...on the bright side...he was credited with 4 hits tonight.

So those who were mad he's not physical enough...you got 4 hits.

I thought he had brief spurts of engagement, which is more than you can say for other games.

Still…the majority of his ice time, he stood out as one of the more ineffective players during a game in which most of the team brought really good energy IMO.

If he can’t get up for a game with that kind of tone, not sure what’s going to put him into gear.

I’ve seen worse efforts than that final missed shot, but it doesn’t seem like there’s much going on up top ATM if he’s making that decision in that moment. Full possession in the O zone three on three and you’re trying to snipe a shot from outside the dots through a defender’s legs? Yeah no.

He is the prototypical 3 on 3 player. Not much physicality in the OT session and all the opportunity in the world to use his legs with plenty of skating room. And that’s what he chooses to do with that situation.

I hope wherever he ends up, be it here or somewhere else, he can find a way to right himself. Because if he doesn’t, it’s a lot of wasted talent on what could be a very successful NHL career.
 
same player but no center to get him the puck. this shouldn't be that complicated

real goal scorers score no matter who is feeding them.

Even excluding Pasta and Marchand (19 and 13 goals respectively), Coyle/Zacha/Frederic/JVR/Poitras have all had no issues scoring more goals than Debrusk with the same group of centers. In addition Geekie/Heinen/Beecher have scored the same # of goals as him
 
same player but no center to get him the puck. this shouldn't be that complicated

How does “no center to get him the puck” explain the decision at the end of OT last night? Or the general lack of hustle?

Let’s not act like this a new thing. Jake has been a very off and on player since he became a pro, regardless of who he is playing with. Now that his ineffectiveness is becoming statistically undeniable, we see this full lean-in into how he’s being done wrong by Monty or his teammates. I suppose something has to substitute for how it’s all Bruce’s fault.

The only way he gets out of this is full on responsibility. I wouldn’t care if he wasn’t putting up points if the effort was at least somewhat consistent. But it isn’t.
 
How does “no center to get him the puck” explain the decision at the end of OT last night? Or the general lack of hustle?

Let’s not act like this a new thing. Jake has been a very off and on player since he became a pro, regardless of who he is playing with. Now that his ineffectiveness is becoming statistically undeniable, we see this full lean-in into how he’s being done wrong by Monty or his teammates. I suppose something has to substitute for how it’s all Bruce’s fault.

The only way he gets out of this is full on responsibility. I wouldn’t care if he wasn’t putting up points if the effort was at least somewhat consistent. But it isn’t.

well you can hope for 20 plus goal jake buts it not happening without legit NHL center to play with
 
well you can hope for 20 plus goal jake buts it not happening without legit NHL center to play with

So what was his excuse when Bergeron/Krejci were here?

With or without NHL caliber top-6 centers, his game has waxed and waned almost like clockwork year to year.

First it was Cassidy. Now it’s lack of talent around him? How do you explain away his bad decision making and up and down engagement game to game and shift to shift? These are things HE alone is responsible for.

To me, this is exactly the type of thought experiment that tells you why we need to move on. If he’s looking for 6m+, that money will be better spent on a top-6 center who will make the players around them even better than they are and not someone that relies on everyone else around him.
 
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He hasn’t earned a big contract imo. But do keep in mind it’s completely possible he signs with another team next summer and goes on a tear elsewhere. I’m fine with it, however I just know there’ll be folks with pitchforks out bashing Sweeney. They should be reminded to visit this thread.
 
He hasn’t earned a big contract imo. But do keep in mind it’s completely possible he signs with another team next summer and goes on a tear elsewhere. I’m fine with it, however I just know there’ll be folks with pitchforks out bashing Sweeney. They should be reminded to visit this thread.
If I recall correctly, Sweeney himself has worried about that same thing happening, if he trades Jake.

That's why they have given him such a long lease.
 
He hasn’t earned a big contract imo. But do keep in mind it’s completely possible he signs with another team next summer and goes on a tear elsewhere. I’m fine with it, however I just know there’ll be folks with pitchforks out bashing Sweeney. They should be reminded to visit this thread.

no interest in signing Jake but a team that has a center and needs a winger might trade for him and Jake will see a boost in production similar to when he played with Krejci and Bergy. He is clearly a centre reliant winger that is a complimentary player.
 
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People don't want to admit the only remaining part of the first round triumvirate isn't working out (or at least not as good as expected from someone picked in that spot).
It's going to hurt at the end if the year when he signs elsewhere and we officially don't have one piece left from that elite first round
 
I'm for sure not happy with his play, but one thing I definitely won't do is disregard his previous two consecutive great seasons for a 30 game sample size.

I'm not sure I'd be willing to give him more than 5 years though given his inconsistencies. I think the best hope is this drives his price down and he returns to form if they grab a top 6C next year, win win for both Bs and Jake.
 
People don't want to admit the only remaining part of the first round triumvirate isn't working out (or at least not as good as expected from someone picked in that spot).

You almost have to wonder if that will play a part if Sweeney decides to commit long term to him.

If Sweeney moves on from him for a mediocre return (or nothing at all letting him walk as a FA) it’s just going to bring that 1st round blunder back into the headlines for a bit.

I know they supposedly didn’t pick Barzal because of personality/character but I wonder what they saw in debrusk that they liked.

I think Jake is a good human being but he comes off as a guy that’s just happy to be a middle 6 passenger.
 
Maybe its not as simple as a guy who just needs a change of scenary. Maybe it is. I like the player and hopes he starts burying biscuits soon.

His 2 way game has improved no doubt, but this team needs him to score as well.
 
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What I find interesting is that if he HAD signed a long term contract over the summer, there would be "he got paid and now he's lazy" accusations.

By most accounts, he is playing a strong two-way game, which is great. But there must be cheaper options who can do that. My guess is he gets traded by the deadline. Just a hunch.
 
People don't want to admit the only remaining part of the first round triumvirate isn't working out (or at least not as good as expected from someone picked in that spot).
yes we don't want to give up on him because of his draft position. it has nothing to do with not wanting to give up on a guy with three 25+ goal seasons who is still in his prime.
 
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Seems like Sweeney made a smart move by not inking him to an extension in the offseason.

Could be very ugly if they had already given him 6-7 aav/6+ years.

I’m sure some conversations must have been had about possible extensions back when that window was opened. Curious how those preliminary talks went
Yes agree. I think Sweeney likely looking to see if Jake could produce without Bergy. Im glad he did whatever the reason
 
Jake is not the reason Monty keeps shaking up the lines, Monty is the reason that he keeps shaking up the lines. he cannot help himself.

Monty is shaking up the lines because they are void of offense. If line combinations were working I doubt they’d be getting switched up as much. It certainly doesn’t help when they have a top 6 winger playing 17 minutes per game and 1:30 of PP time a game who has 4 goals.

Any coach in the league is going to be switching lines to try and find anything for Debrusk. The issue is he doesn’t play well with any of the bruins current centers
 
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