Player Discussion Jake DeBrusk VII

[Oates2Neely]

no interest in signing Jake but a team that has a center and needs a winger might trade for him and Jake will see a boost in production similar to when he played with Krejci and Bergy. He is clearly a centre reliant winger that is a complimentary player.

And the following season with that same center Jake will go on an insanely long cold streak and his new teams fanbase will be calling for him to be moved. He’s a frustrating player to follow. Seems like a great kid, he’s just too inconsistent. Possibly the most inconsistent Bruins forward in the past 20 years. Definitely top 5

 

[lopey]

What I find interesting is that if he HAD signed a long term contract over the summer, there would be "he got paid and now he's lazy" accusations.

By most accounts, he is playing a strong two-way game, which is great. But there must be cheaper options who can do that. My guess is he gets traded by the deadline. Just a hunch.

Lot of talk of 2 way game. He has been decent defensively but a two way game means offence as well. He stinks right now. Hope to god he gets better because we cant trade him for much

 

[Oates2Neely]

I'm for sure not happy with his play, but one thing I definitely won't do is disregard his previous two consecutive great seasons for a 30 game sample size.

I'm not sure I'd be willing to give him more than 5 years though given his inconsistencies. I think the best hope is this drives his price down and he returns to form if they grab a top 6C next year, win win for both Bs and Jake.

Through 29 games this season he’s on pace to score 11G 20A 31P. Assuming he remains at his current pace, you’re GM, what type of contract do you offer him?

 

[KrejciMVP]

Through 29 games this season he’s on pace to score 11G 20A 31P. Assuming he remains at his current pace, you’re GM, what type of contract do you offer him?

Id trade him for center prospects. No point paying Jake with no 1 or 2 center unless youre ok him never hitting his ceiling. Probably wont land a Suzuki for Pacioretty but you never know what teams will pay come trade deadline

 

[Donnie Shulzhoffer]

Id trade him for center prospects. No point paying Jake with no 1 or 2 center unless youre ok him never hitting his ceiling. Probably wont land a Suzuki for Pacioretty but you never know what teams will pay come trade deadline

You realize the reasons you use to defend him is the exact reason why you don't sign him?

 

[Oates2Neely]

Id trade him for center prospects. No point paying Jake with no 1 or 2 center unless youre ok him never hitting his ceiling. Probably wont land a Suzuki for Pacioretty but you never know what teams will pay come trade deadline

With all due respect I didn’t ask you. I was responding to poster who is proposing signing DeBrusk to a 5yr deal

 

[Sheppy]

Id trade him for center prospects. No point paying Jake with no 1 or 2 center unless youre ok him never hitting his ceiling. Probably wont land a Suzuki for Pacioretty but you never know what teams will pay come trade deadline

The f*** would we want Pacioretty for?

 

[KrejciMVP]

The f*** would we want Pacioretty for?

ya lets trade for Pacioretty lol. Montreal traded a winger for a center prospect Suzuki, which I hope the Bruins do with Jake.

 

[CharasLazyWrister]

The f*** would we want Pacioretty for?

On the bright side for all of the fans who would convulse over that deal, Pacioretty would only play a few games maximum before getting injured again and remaining out for the rest of the year.

 

[MattFromFranklin]

same player but no center to get him the puck. this shouldn't be that complicated

He scores the majority of his goals by being right next to the net. Tipped shots, wide open rebounds, etc. When he's not right next to the net he's not a big threat to score.

People don't want to admit the only remaining part of the first round triumvirate isn't working out (or at least not as good as expected from someone picked in that spot).

That's not Jake's fault, though. He had no business being picked where he was. Connor and Barzal were vastly superior players at the time and are still vastly superior 8+ years later, but it's not like Jake forced the Bruins to pick him. That's on Sweeney, Neely, and the scouts. Jake never should've been picked by the Bruins but that's on the scouts and management. Jake is what he is.

 

[NDiesel]

Through 29 games this season he’s on pace to score 11G 20A 31P. Assuming he remains at his current pace, you’re GM, what type of contract do you offer him?

This type of prediction stuff isn't something I'm confident about, but I'd be willing to do 4 to 5 years for 4.5-5 mil - assuming he keeps a similar pace up.

Regardless of this down start to the season, this is still a guy that is normally a lock for 20 goals (outside of his rookie season, the covid season), under 30, and has the ability to score at a similar pace in both regular season and playoff. Also plays a good two-way game these days.

I think he's a classic guy who is going to leave us and have a Statline of 30-30-60 on a team like Devils or Oilers who have better talent to surround him with. I'd rather take that chance with our own team if we can add some more talent around him in the top 6.

 

[BradMarchandismydad]

The f*** would we want Pacioretty for?

5 goals 0 assists in 5 games then out for the season, who wouldn’t want that. Not even remotely worth DeBrusk.

On a side note I’m rooting for the guy.

 

[Sheppy]

5 goals 0 assists in 5 games then out for the season, who wouldn’t want that. Not even remotely worth DeBrusk.

On a side note I’m rooting for the guy.

Yeah, and then he takes a warmup and tears his soul, then retires. He's likely going to be in really rough shape.

 

[Gordon Lightfoot]

Lot of talk of 2 way game. He has been decent defensively but a two way game means offence as well. He stinks right now. Hope to god he gets better because we cant trade him for much

Exactly. Not that I want to trade him, but he needs to score.

I don't think I worded my post correctly. Two way indeed means scoring, so he needs to do that.

 

[lopey]

This type of prediction stuff isn't something I'm confident about, but I'd be willing to do 4 to 5 years for 4.5-5 mil - assuming he keeps a similar pace up.

Regardless of this down start to the season, this is still a guy that is normally a lock for 20 goals (outside of his rookie season, the covid season), under 30, and has the ability to score at a similar pace in both regular season and playoff. Also plays a good two-way game these days.

I think he's a classic guy who is going to leave us and have a Statline of 30-30-60 on a team like Devils or Oilers who have better talent to surround him with. I'd rather take that chance with our own team if we can add some more talent around him in the top 6.

He never scored 30 and he won’t start now. If he needs do much talent to produce why should he get paid. Use his money to get a legit 1 a centre

 

[BamBamCam]

JDB is a 3rd liner on a SC contending team.

 

[goldnblack]

We expect Brad to figure it out on any line and drive play, and he's old.

I'm hoping we could expect that from Jake in his prime?

 

[NDiesel]

He never scored 30 and he won’t start now. If he needs do much talent to produce why should he get paid. Use his money to get a legit 1 a centre

You think he wouldn't touch 30 playing with Drai/McDavid or Hughes/Hischier? And he isn't getting paid...4.5/5 is barely a raise from his current number

 

[lopey]

You think he wouldn't touch 30 playing with Drai/McDavid or Hughes/Hischier? And he isn't getting paid...4.5/5 is barely a raise from his current number

If your putting him with the best centres in the league ill say likely. My point is he won’t on 90% of teams. Christ i might score 30 lol. Jk

 

[NDiesel]

If your putting him with the best centres in the league ill say likely. My point is he won’t on 90% of teams. Christ i might score 30 lol. Jk

Maybe you're right. He also had 27 goals in 64 games last season and 27 in 68 games before so I'm not sure that 30 is unattainable on 90% of teams.

 

[wintersej]

Trading DeBrusk right now would be incredibly short sighted. He's not going to shoot at 6% all year and this team can't afford to lose his speed or goalscoring in the POs.

I think one asterisk is that if he lets it get to him like he let it get to him during COVID he might grip his stick all year. Over the 66 games between the start of the bubble season and January 1st the next year (when he was moved to Marchand/Bergeron line) he shot 7% over 66 games. I can’t pretend to know what’s going on in his head, but it sure does seem like it’s starting to get to him from the outside.

 

[lopey]

Maybe you're right. He also had 27 goals in 64 games last season and 27 in 68 games before so I'm not sure that 30 is unattainable on 90% of teams.

Until he does it he hasn’t done it

 

[wintersej]

JDB is a 3rd liner on a SC contending team.

No wonder the team lost in 2019

 

[goldnblack]

The question again isn't if Jake can play hockey. The question is if 6+ with term to Jake makes more season than 2 to Heinen while you bank cap space to land serious impact players.

We could finally weaponize our cap space to get more picks too.

 

[NDiesel]

Until he does it he hasn’t done it

Sure, I'm not calling him a 30 goal guy, I'm just saying I can see it now if we let him go, he's going to go elsewhere and compliment a lineup well and hit 30, just like when Leafs let Hyman go. Seems like a guy you keep at the right price to compliment your core guys.