100% spot on. Anytime someone says anything remotely negative the excuses of not having a consistent line comes up and escalates from there
Player Discussion Jake DeBrusk VII
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Melodramatic? This board and online openly went after this kid with lies about his family. Lies about him. That covid season he spoke openly about his mental health struggles. You saw it in his face before he spoke about it. His teammates talked about it. And some of that was met with "oh well he makes enough money suck it up" or "he's a cry baby" and other disgusting things. It's all fun and games until something bad happens. Y'all can post #BellLetsTalk until it's about him. My comments were relevant because we're talking about Jake being the whipping boy again like the covid years. A year which should be thrown our, set on fire, never to be heard again.
The critiques of him being a "lazy, uninterested, floater" are back, and that's not what's going on, on the ice. We got people saying he's pouting, not true. So the conversation is relevant. It's the same shit that was flung in 2021. A little deja vu. Meanwhile we got a whole ass article and interviewed with the actual coach PRAISING him and its like people want to see what they want in regards to Jake.
We ALL want him to start scoring and getting the offense flow again. That's not a debate. He's doing everything that's asked of him, besides scoring, and not for a lack of trying.
But if you can't see the writing on the wall when it comes to Jake on here by some posters then idk what to tell you. Some see it differently. It is what it is.
bearcountry17
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Only 25 LWers in the league have scored more goals than Debrusk over the past 5 seasons.
Only 10 have more in the playoffs. Use this down year to keep his cap hit in check and actually hold on to your quality players. This team still lacks a good top 6 winger with Debrusk
Only 10 have more in the playoffs. Use this down year to keep his cap hit in check and actually hold on to your quality players. This team still lacks a good top 6 winger with Debrusk
UncleRico
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He missed a team meeting on the road where everyone is in the same hotel. How is that not being lazy and uninterested? Who knows the reason, but it’s extremely difficult to miss meetings on the road. Usually if you don’t wake up on your own someone else will. So who knows where he was or what happened but it’s not a good look.
That certainly doesn’t qualify him as interested and active.
Clearly it was a mistake and he owned it. How does that one mistake that he owned prove anything? You going to hold that against him forever? Monty is satisfied with him.
Yikes....I don't know how you can accuse everyone on this board of this. That is NOT true and you should know this. You are WAY over the top.
I don't see him as a whipping boy by most posters. They are discussing his lack of scoring like they would do with ANY player. I mean Brad didn't get a point in one game (after getting the winning OT goal and the next game getting a hatty) and someone remarked how he was losing his edge.
No one is wishing evil on him. EVERYONE hopes he gets it going.
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UncleRico
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It happened a couple months ago and is a completely valid critique especially when evaluating whether or not to make millions of dollars with of an investment in someone.
It’s a business and every single thing that impacts him/the team positively or negatively will be factored in whether that’s physical, mental or emotional health will be considered in to how much he makes and for how long.
Just like how his on ice performance will positively or negatively impact his contract.
Just like at my job in my yearly review. Everything that went wrong and went well will be brought up and it will impact my salary.
I don’t get to apologize and then at my yearly review just say “oh I owned the mistake so you can’t count it against me”
Him missing one meeting early in the season months ago should have no effect on how you view the player now. Is he still missing meetings? No. Is he doing anything shady out of work? No. Is he getting reprimanded by the coach? No. Monty literally has an article recently about Jake, did you read it? Do you agree with what Monty said or no? Should Jake be shunned forever in your eyes because of this? If he was scoring would you still think of him missing the meeting or would that still be on your mind?
Everyone doesn't hope he gets going. Some want him traded. Some hate him. I did not accuse EVERYONE that has ever been on the board of treating Jake like garbage. But it was a good portion of people. You know this. I know this. We can't pretend that what happened in 2021 on here didn't happen. It happened. It sucked. It was appalling. Most apologized and realized it went too far. Others didn't and that's fine. But again Susan, I didn't say EVERYONE. And yes, people are discussing his lack of scoring like every other player. Which should be discussed and I'm not, nor have I ever said "hey guys you can't discuss this".
The opinions of him being a loser, lazy, uninterested, pouty player are false, but those are people's opinions. I disagree with them. The coach disagrees with them. But I'm not patrolling or policing anyone here. He's back to whipping boy status like 2021 again. And that's the truth.
CharasLazyWrister
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Suddenly I’m even more sure of the melodrama assessment.
You’re doing the exact thing I referenced in my first post. You’re going on and on ripping all the people that said terrible things in the past about Jake and/or his family. And then you’re seamlessly into complaining about people critiquing his play… at all.
I respect if your opinion of Jake Is higher than mine. My opinion is just the same as anyone else’s. But you are oddly desperate to equate those simply criticizing his on ice play to those who wish legitimate ill on him. I never said the latter of which didn’t exist in select cases. But it’s not the same as legitimate criticism.
I do think he looks lazy way too often lately. I don’t think he looks engaged. The “melodrama” comes from implying that I am suddenly in the category of having no empathy for Jake DeBrusk, the person.
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Gonzothe7thDman
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Why is the 2021 time period on Bruins Hf being talked about like it was 9/11 2.0?
Dennis Bonvie
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Points per game in the playoffs leaves Jake at 38th among left wing over the past 5 seasons.
And only 4 LWs with a worse plus/minus.
CharasLazyWrister
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“They were very dark times. Wouldn’t advise going back and looking”.
Are we still talking hockey?
I'm trying to figure out when HF's became Twitter/X.
Point of clarification: the news that he asked for a trade came from an Edmonton Oilers beat writer who happens to work with DeBrusk's father and subsequent reporting revealed who was involved in the decision to seek a trade.
I think you have been reading too much twitter (or whatever it is being called now)
Everyone hopes he gets it going if only to get his value up for a trade. Even if someone wants him traded it does NOT mean they hate Jake.
Dennis Bonvie
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All you have to do is look at this thread and the cap considerations thread. People don't like players. It's normal. I'm not mad about that, in fact I welcome that discussion.
I'm not going to reply to every single comment on here. But look. Things are simple. Jake isn't scoring. He needs to score. We ALL agree on that. Some think he's pouting, lazy, etc etc
I disagree. The coach disagrees. Okay cool.
He's back to whipping boy status again taking over for the early season whipping boy, Trent Frederic. That's fine.
I just see the writing on the wall.
And for the exaggeration on a 9/11 comparison, shame on you. Not you @Dennis Bonvie But anyone saying that. That covid year on here was HORRIBLE. Not just because of the vitriol Jake was getting, but because we were all on edge. Scared. Nervous. Etc. My point was I don't want to go back and read those posts. Not just about Jake, but because it WAS a dark time on here.
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bearcountry17
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Who was that bum that played for the Bruins in 2016-17 that in the first 31 games of the year had only 4 goals and 9 points?
UncleRico
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Well I’ll just say I’m not holding them against him personally, just professionally and there’s a significant difference between the two.
We will just have to agree to disagree
I respect you as a poster. And I respect your opinion. No harm no foul here.
BigBadBruins7708
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I know you're being disingenuous because no one is dumb enough to honestly compare Debrusk to Bergeron
bearcountry17
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It’s almost as if even players significantly better than Debrusk go through prolonged cold spells as well.
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I feel I can be neutral and when it's about Jake .I do think posters sometimes jump the gun with criticism of a player. We don't always have all the info that the management has . And at this level of play it doesn't take a major injury to knock a pro off his game. Something is off with his scoring game and it's being discussed. Hopefully there is a positive outcome.
Case in point The criticism about Carlo when he came back after concussions was over the top in my opinion .But obviously not everyone thinks the same.
Case in point The criticism about Carlo when he came back after concussions was over the top in my opinion .But obviously not everyone thinks the same.
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Anyone else reminded of the "Darkest day in Habs history" incident that just turned out to be Kostitsyn maybe having some tangential contact with a Russian mobster or something?
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