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Player Discussion Jake DeBrusk VII

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WhalerTurnedBruin55 said:
He's a 30 goal scorer that has never scored 30.

I like Debrusk, but I hate projected numbers being used when he simply hasn't made it there yet.

Can he? Those projections say he COULD, but he hasn't put together a full season and to be honest, an 8 year deal for a guy that hasn't played a full season yet into 6 years after his draft year? Call me cynical, but not the guy I'm paying market value+ to stay here. The number is right? Great, let's keep him. But if we overpay him for a contract he could grow into, I'm skeptical.

That said letting him walk is also pretty awful. Sweeneys return for roster players hasn't really been impressive either.

So at this point, I kinda feel damned if we do, damned if we don't.
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you don’t see that Covid altered his chances to become a 30 goal scorer when he has played at a 30 goal pace for long periods. I mean I guess so. I mean I don’t go around talking about him being a 30 goal scorer but I do see him as a highly talented goal scorer playing a drastically improving 200’ game who will most likely hit 30 this year or next.

So you feel like we’re damned either way. I mean maybe if he takes half of market value you can celebrate a victory. I’m just happy he’s on the team I very much think our best path forward is with him.

Anyways after typing that out, I was thinking glass half full glass half empty. More appropriately for us I think the case is the glass is not full vs the glass is not empty. Given that apparently you only see darkness and for me if they did trade DeBrusk for a 4th rounder and cap space I’d probably be telling you it’s because Boquist, Richard and Merkulov were outplaying him and ready for MAJOR breakouts. 😀🤷🏻‍♂️

Anyhow hope this works out and I hope Jake grows on you like he has on me.
 
HustleB said:
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you don’t see that Covid altered his chances to become a 30 goal scorer when he has played at a 30 goal pace for long periods. I mean I guess so. I mean I don’t go around talking about him being a 30 goal scorer but I do see him as a highly talented goal scorer playing a drastically improving 200’ game who will most likely hit 30 this year or next.

So you feel like we’re damned either way. I mean maybe if he takes half of market value you can celebrate a victory. I’m just happy he’s on the team I very much think our best path forward is with him.

Anyways after typing that out, I was thinking glass half full glass half empty. More appropriately for us I think the case is the glass is not full vs the glass is not empty. Given that apparently you only see darkness and for me if they did trade DeBrusk for a 4th rounder and cap space I’d probably be telling you it’s because Boquist, Richard and Merkulov were outplaying him and ready for MAJOR breakouts. 😀🤷🏻‍♂️

Anyhow hope this works out and I hope Jake grows on you like he has on me.
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I'm not saying he's not good.

Just the semantics of saying projected 30 goal scorer is still not a 30 goal scorer.

Can he? Those projections say he can. But projections don't mean anything until it happens. The Bruins were projected to go on a deep run. They didn't.

I like Debrusk, too. But it all comes down to price.

If he's asking premium money, decisions need to be made. If history around the league means anything, overpaid players do not age well. So need to be as close to as certain as we can if we are paying him the big bucks.
 
I`ve been tough on Jake, many times he has earned my irk but I have also been incredibly ludicrous when discussing Jake, such as when he requested the trade and me not taking into account the immense mental health struggle he had during the bubble but I can say this now with confidence, I wish for him to re-sign here, seemed to flourish under Monty`s system and be enjoying himself

This year will be so odd, no Bergy, no DK, wonder if perhaps Jake takes on a bit more leadership role in the room? I know the team still has lots of vet presence but wondering if that`s in his blood to do ?
 
Definitely gut check time for DeBrusk. Healthy scratched and the team comes out with a convincing win against its strongest opponent of the season on the road. This is hardly $7m AVV stuff. We shouldn't even be having this conversation 7 years into his NHL career. He doesn't need to have a response game, he needs a response season.
 
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If you can add Sam Reinhard for similar money I would do so. Reinhard is more consistent but will probably demand a higher AAV, also risk of not having him sign here. DeBrusk needs to grow up, he us a very good player when he concentrates
 
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Missing the one meeting isn’t a big deal. It happens. The thing that has always got me is that the guy has so much talent but never fully dedicated himself the way so many NHLers have been doing over the past ten years or so.

He has been public about his poor diet and poor sleeping habits. He goes through long stretches of coasting through games. It is normal for fans to get frustrated by this type of thing.

If they do extend him, I hope it is a 2 or 3 year deal max. Given his age, I doubt he will accept anything less than 5. In that case, trade him for something before the deadline and move on.
 
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Beesfan said:
Definitely gut check time for DeBrusk. Healthy scratched and the team comes out with a convincing win against its strongest opponent of the season on the road. This is hardly $7m AVV stuff. We shouldn't even be having this conversation 7 years into his NHL career. He doesn't need to have a response game, he needs a response season.
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After 7 years I expect players to show up to team meetings on time especially on the road. Gut check time indeed.
 
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Such bad timing with the 'JD's a terrible packer' tweet. If this doesn't happen a day later, it's just a funny anecdote about a quirky guy. Now the two together make him look immature, or for his harsher critics, draw attention to his immaturity.
 
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I don't blame them. Seventh year in the league, he's expected to be part of the veteran core. This isn't just a young kid making a mistake. Now they are sending the message that they are a good team regardless of whether he plays or not. So shape up or ship out.

They must be incredibly disappointed in him.
 
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Does anyone have actual confirmation that he is indeed sitting again tonight? I don't see any reporters saying anything?
 
JOKER 192 said:
If this is true then it's more than one missed meeting.

Or could it be he's been dealt and they don't want to risk injury ?

Edit: Or could it be NESN is looking for click bait, either that or they're some lazy bastards.
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NESN is always looking to create drama!
 
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