BigBadBruins7708
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Yeah, when he was visibly pouting and not engaged on the ice while also asking to be traded...
Player Discussion Jake DeBrusk VII
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Yeah, when he was visibly pouting and not engaged on the ice while also asking to be traded...
While battling mental health issues that he was open about then and recently spoke about it. He was a professional on the ice even when he was struggling AND in that locker room. It's not rocket science that every single teammate of his, had his back. Including our Captain. And they knew more than what the public knew.
Time to let what happened 2 years ago be in the past.
Kegs
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II saw the trade request. I think Cassidy is not a players coach. He is a smart systems coach who picks apart the other teams style of play and comes up with good ways to counter attack it. I think it’s safe to say some players had a hard time with him.
I didn’t see a player that wasn’t engaged. Debrusk was still learning to use his speed on the forecheck. Some players take a while to get that under their belt. Once it clicks it clicks. Sweeney played his cards right by not trading him. Would have been the equivalent of the zacha trade.
Show me the "visible pouting." I'm not saying he didn't, but I'd appreciate proof.
I remember going to Donahue's up the street here in Watertown for lunch with a friend.
The Bruins were on. This was either just before or right after Cassidy, finally ffs, moved Jake up with Bergeron and Marchand. The previous season -- Covid lockdown -- he tallied just five goals. Playing sparingly with less than productive teammates.
Jake scored and I observed to a guy at the bar that #74 might be getting on the right track.
"I'd trade him for a bag of pucks."
That was the consensus back then.
I would have traded him, too. I found DeBrusk's scoring inconsistency maddening, as inconsistent play of any kind is near the top of my no-no list. Fairly or not, I also grouped Jake together with JZ and ZS, considering all three to be major busts.
Yes, Debrusk asked for a trade. So did Zboril. And later, Senyshyn as well. Let's also not forget that although Carlo never said anything, he too found it difficult to please Cassidy. There may have been others as well.
What I see now is a player who is not a defensive liability, uses his straight-ahead speed to crash the net, and isn't afraid of the ensuing punishment. Almost all of his goals (19 and 27 with #37 and #63) are of the hard working, greasy variety.
I also see a guy whose confidence and command of his game has grown significantly. If retained, as I believe he should be, DeBrusk can be a solid two-way player and reliable scoring threat. He's beginning to demonstrate, even on the wing, an ability to drive a line.
He may even prove a valuable member of Bruins leadership going forward.
I say keep him.
Its okayYes. I know. I didn't mean to send this to you but to that poster. Sorry,
DKH
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The formula is 3-4 very good wingers so trading DeBrusk leaves you with Pastrnak and 35 year old Marchand
I am building a team makes no sense creating a massive hole here
DeBrusk is exactly what I would want
Can play both wings
With skill guys
Plays both special teams
If they offer him a long term deal and he shows no interest signing a hen yeh I call Calgary
However I think he wants to stay
He’s a B+ player perfect age and skillset
They have 4 players in that tier 23-27 Tier of good players in Carlo, DeBrusk, Zacha, and Swayman. Love to see Geekie or Merkulov jump in there
I am building a team makes no sense creating a massive hole here
DeBrusk is exactly what I would want
Can play both wings
With skill guys
Plays both special teams
If they offer him a long term deal and he shows no interest signing a hen yeh I call Calgary
However I think he wants to stay
He’s a B+ player perfect age and skillset
They have 4 players in that tier 23-27 Tier of good players in Carlo, DeBrusk, Zacha, and Swayman. Love to see Geekie or Merkulov jump in there
KnightofBoston
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The Bruins need to get some clarity on Jake DeBrusk’s future - The Boston Globe
The winger is scheduled to become an unrestricted free agent next summer, so it may be worth it to lock him up now.
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A painful 2023 offseason is nearing an end for the Boston Bruins.
In the span of two months, the Bruins have undergone one of the most significant talent drains in recent memory.
Along with the retirements of both Patrice Bergeron and David Krejci, a severe cap crunch prompted a sell-off trade of Taylor Hall and hamstrung Boston in its efforts to retain Tyler Bertuzzi and Dmitry Orlov in free agency.
But as a retooling Bruins roster sets its sights on 2023-24, Don Sweeney and Boston’s front-office personnel still have one order of business to turn to: the future of 26-year-old winger Jake DeBrusk.
Even though the Bruins should be flush with cap space next summer, Boston might want some clarity on a pending UFA like DeBrusk before he officially hits the open market next offseason.
But what type of “clarity” are the Bruins exactly looking for with a player like DeBrusk?
As the Bruins head into the post-Bergeron era, the top focus for Sweeney and his staff is building a stout foundation for the future in order to guarantee sustainable success.
All things considered, they’re already in a good spot.
Boston has a 60-goal scorer in David Pastrnak and two Norris-caliber defensemen in Charlie McAvoy and Hampus Lindholm signed through at least 2030. Jeremy Swayman will be due a pay raise next summer but is one of the top young netminders in the game. Youngsters like Mason Lohrei, Matthew Poitras, and Georgii Merkulov offer hope for the future.
But does a winger like DeBrusk also factor into the mix as a player worth retaining as a franchise fixture in the years ahead?
Given the returns he put forth last season, DeBrusk seems like a top-six weapon worth keeping for the long haul.
With 119 goals and 226 points over 385 career games with the Bruins, DeBrusk has been a productive forward for Boston since making his debut in 2017. But the winger has been prone to some peaks and valleys as far as his production goes, especially earlier in his career.
With his trade request in the rearview, DeBrusk was regularly deployed as a top-line winger next to Bergeron and Brad Marchand — scoring 27 goals and posting a career-high 50 points over 68 games in 2022-23.
“It was obviously a crazy year ago at this point in time and even before that,” DeBrusk said in May. “I did feel lucky. I felt lucky to be [in Boston] every day. Even just with the start that we had as a group. With the guys in this locker room, it just felt special, and I tried to take every moment I could of any day that I was here, and I was just really grateful for the opportunity.”
But what kind of contract will DeBrusk command, especially with the NHL’s salary-cap ceiling set to soar next summer?
As the Bruins ramp up negotiations, Sweeney and Co. could opt to offer a deal comparable to the one that Brandon Hagel just signed with the Lightning last week. Hagel, 25, signed an eight-year contract extension with an annual cap hit of $6.5 million.
Even though that term is significant, the Bruins could stomach it to keep a potential 30-goal scorer in DeBrusk for around $6-6.5 million per season.
Locking in a player with that cap hit before the cap really surges next summer (and likely, the summer after that) should make that contract age well, similar to how McAvoy’s $9.5 million cap hit through 2030 should continue to look better and better over time.
Even though Hagel is a bit younger than DeBrusk, both wingers offer similar skillsets. Hagel scored 30 goals and posted 64 points over 81 games last season, while DeBrusk’s 82-game pace last year had him tabbed for 35 goals and 64 points.
In some respects, DeBrusk offers even more value given the strides he’s made on the defensive end.
DeBrusk’s more well-rounded skillset could see him command a bit more than Hagel if Boston intends to get a deal done before next summer.
But if $6.5 million can be a suitable starting point for both parties, the onus falls on the Bruins to try to get a deal done before the regular season ramps up.
Even though Boston could opt to play the waiting game to see if DeBrusk can replicate that 2022-23 production without Bergeron, such a move also invites the risk of DeBrusk further bolstering his value.
At the very worst, DeBrusk still holds plenty of value as a 25+ goal scorer with a promising defensive game.
DeBrusk is a fascinating asset on Boston’s roster, given his high upside and his coveted skillset that could also make him a valuable trade chip if things go south for the 2023-24 roster.
But if a Bruins roster reliant on its stingy defensive and stout goaltending can remain competitive, keeping one of their few proven offensive conduits up front in DeBrusk stands as the best move — both in 2023-24 and especially in the years ahead.
DKH
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Jake DeBrusk hopes to re-sign with Boston Bruins, eyes 30-goal mark this season | TSN
A year away from hitting unrestricted free agency next summer, Boston Bruins winger Jake DeBrusk said Tuesday he is hoping to sign an extension to stay with the team.
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Jake DeBrusk hopes to re-sign with Boston Bruins, eyes 30-goal mark this season | TSN
A year away from hitting unrestricted free agency next summer, Boston Bruins winger Jake DeBrusk said Tuesday he is hoping to sign an extension to stay with the team.
Everyone wanted to know he if wanted to be back and re-sign. Here is your answer. No more speculation. He WANTS to be here.
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DKH
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no brainer to sign him
Super underrated player
8/50
Love his positional wing flexibility
As we saw against Florida in playoffs dangerous PK
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I think this is a good question.
If 8 years $50M was on the table today, how many here say yes? How many want to see more considering the ups and downs of DeBrusk's tenure in Boston? How many would rather wait and see where we're at at the deadline and maybe use him as a valuable sellers chip?
How many see DeBrusk as a core member of the Bruins?
Only reason I'd be hesitant on a term of 8 years is his injury history.
UncleRico
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I don’t see him as a core guy, but that could also be reflective of my definition/scope of what a core player is. Some people could view a core as a smaller group of 3 players or a larger group of 8. I don’t view him as a core guy, but definitely that very next tier of players.
For me his next contract is such a mystery and quite frankly pretty dependent on how he plays this year.
He’s played well the last couple years no doubt, but the elephant in the room is if he can stay healthy. On average misses approx 18% of each season. That’s definitely a big concern, especially when dealing out such a lengthy contract.
In six season this is his 82 game averages:
67 gp 20g 19a 39p
I think Debrusk stands to win or lose himself a lot of money this year with his performance. If he puts up another 25+ goal season and he’s healthy then ya I could easily see him getting 8/50 or even a fair amount more if he gets 30+. However if it’s a slightly injury plagued year where he struggles with Coyle or a new center like he has in the past, then I’m not sure he will even get $6m
If he didn't miss as much time as he has I would most likely consider him part of the core, so I guess I'm a no on that for the time being. Core is (forwards) what? Just Pasta and elderly Marchand?
I don't understand faulting him on games played and injuries .
If we apply the same standard to McAvoy we wouldn't have signed him
63 gm average over 6 years with injuries
todays NHL pretty much everyone gets injured
If we apply the same standard to McAvoy we wouldn't have signed him
63 gm average over 6 years with injuries
todays NHL pretty much everyone gets injured
CharasLazyWrister
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Thought this past season, beyond the points, was by far Jake’s most consistent season. Was an asset in multiple ways, whether he was scoring or not. Not something I could have said with a straight face in past years.
Ever since he signed that two year extension (theoretically, to facilitate a trade), he kicked it into gear and hasn’t looked back.
I think he’s done a lot to quash the notion (that I was a believer in for a while) that he was a “fragile” player. Love when he just guns it and goes hard to the net with zero regard for himself or anyone else. I understand it comes with risk to his own health, but it’s that type of drive and style that gives him that “big game player” vibe.
Ever since he signed that two year extension (theoretically, to facilitate a trade), he kicked it into gear and hasn’t looked back.
I think he’s done a lot to quash the notion (that I was a believer in for a while) that he was a “fragile” player. Love when he just guns it and goes hard to the net with zero regard for himself or anyone else. I understand it comes with risk to his own health, but it’s that type of drive and style that gives him that “big game player” vibe.
UncleRico
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Easy..
Because McAvoy is an elite, franchise altering defender who is a Norris candidate every year. While Debrusks isn’t nearly the quality of player and finding an alternative to Debrusk isn’t nearly as difficult as McAvoy.
RussellmaniaKW
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what people here think is irrelevant b/c 90% of people here have lost all perspective (if they ever had it).
With that said, I've come around to seeing him as potentially a core guy if they choose to keep him. He has a little bit of that Krejci effect where it's "as he goes, so goes the team". When Jake is in the zone he's really clutch and gives the team that extra gear.
People talk about his ups & downs as if there are big question marks about him. The way I see it is the guy has scored 25+ goals 3 times by the age of 26 and that's with tons of mitigating circumstances so we haven't even seen the best of him yet. I think locking him up makes a ton of sense & in a year or 2 could actually end up looking like a "buy low" move.
PlayMakers
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I'd happily do $50/8. That's $6.25 per with a cap that will go up $10m in the next couple years.
I don't know that $6m makes him a core player, but he's a good fit with this core, in terms of his age, his ability to pay either wing in the top6, and how his teammates seem to feel about him.
We were just paying Hall $6m to put up 36 points on our 3rd line and I could see JDB getting 36 goals at some point over the life of that deal. I'm content to consider his "down" being Covid related, as it was for a lot of people.
OT: Even if the Bruins were 20 points out of the playoffs at the deadline I don't think they'll be sellers. I don't think they'll ever be sellers. They'll take the loss of a season and try to fix their problems in free agency in July or via trade.
DKH
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Core member?
How about really good player
Of course we can let a guy go who scored 37 goals last 82 games with 30+ with broken bones in foot and spread around and get Dave Scatchard, corpse of Tomas Gradin and Bryan Marchment
Nothing more perplexing to me watching people give up something good they know and go for unknown
DeBrusk is a No brainer to me but hockey is my third sport
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