Confirmed with Link: Jacob Trouba traded to Anaheim Ducks for Urho vaakanainen and 4th Round conditional pick

[Row I Goon]

Trading Captains is a proper NYR thing now.

Third in a row.

 

[Chytilmania]

I'd really like to know why he fell off so visibly.

I know I say this a lot and it’s not the end all be all but we have a bunch of players who are allergic to the gym and probably not taking great care of their bodies. Trouba is one of them. When you’re a step slower, always banged up, you are thinking more and in turn even slower. There’s a reason Kreider still plays at a high level when he actually tries. I’ll point to Crosby as well or changing sports to LeBron James.

 

[Harbour Dog]

So, is the only acknowledgement we got from Trouba that his play has been shit was "The result is the result", when referencing this season after Drury trying to move him this summer?

Good riddance. Hopefully he was the whiniest piece in the dressing room; certainly seems to be the only one who hasn't been willing to admit their faults.

 

[WhatTheDuck]

Trading Captains is a proper NYR thing now.

Third in a row.

They mentioned on the Sportsnet broadcast of your game last night, that it was your third straight captain not just dealt away but all three traded in-season. Ironically your last captain not traded mid-season was Drury, who was bought out and retired. High pressure job I guess

 

[turcotte8]

Trading Captains is a proper NYR thing now.

Third in a row.

Mika for new captain.

 

[Takeahnase]

I know I say this a lot and it’s not the end all be all but we have a bunch of players who are allergic to the gym and probably not taking great care of their bodies. Trouba is one of them. When you’re a step slower, always banged up, you are thinking more and in turn even slower. There’s a reason Kreider still plays at a high level when he actually tries. I’ll point to Crosby as well or changing sports to LeBron James.

Uh, there’s a little more going on with LeBalco than just hitting the gym bro.

 

[McRanger92]

I will say, thank you Jacob Trouba. I have zero doubt you were a good person, a good captain. But it had to be done because this is a business and your cap hit was nowhere near your level of play.

I know bringing this up sucks because we lost, but at the same time this was an all time hit

This hit wasnt dirty but it was classless. Down 2-0 in the 3rd period of game 7, Meier has been taking liberties with Igor all series and Captain mouthbreather decides the moment it's too late to try to start something. Too little too late, you shouldve grabbed him out of a scrum in Game 2 and rearranged his ugly mug. Trouba's big hits were cool, but he never did enough to protect the team's crease or stand up for his teammates.

 

[eco's bones]

NHL players for sure work at keeping in shape. Too much internal pressure from people wanting their jobs.

When I started following the Rangers in the 70's it was kind of the norm where players used training camp to get up to speed and back in condition. They didn't make anywhere near the kind of money they do now even adjusting for the times. When a season ended a fairly high % of them worked summer jobs because of that. Others just drank, smoked, caroused, ate whatever....it was like summer vacation. When Canada faced off against the Russians in the first summit series in 1972 that became a real issue with Canada embarrassed on the home leg of that tournament. They were gassed throughout the early part of the series and being picked apart by tic tac toe passing and looked completely lost or pretty much how the Rangers have lately.

Conditioning is a big deal. You don't keep up you're going to have problems. That said some do have work with injuries and rehabilitation and wear and tear over time factors in too.

 

[Gordon Bombay]

They mentioned on the Sportsnet broadcast of your game last night, that it was your third straight captain not just dealt away but all three traded in-season. Ironically your last captain not traded mid-season was Drury, who was bought out and retired. High pressure job I guess

For the record, because ESPN did this as well, each trade had it's own little situation.

Callahan had stated that he wasn't coming back, or wanted more than we could afford. So they got St. Louis at the deadline instead of getting nothing.

McD was a casualty of the Rangers starting their rebuild. They wanted assets for a guy that wasn't going to sign/slash go through a rebuild.

Trouba. I can't believe you guys took him at full salary.

 

[McRanger92]

NHL players for sure work at keeping in shape. Too much internal pressure from people wanting their jobs.

When I started following the Rangers in the 70's it was kind of the norm where players used training camp to get up to speed and back in condition. They didn't make anywhere near the kind of money they do now even adjusting for the times. When a season ended a fairly high % of them worked summer jobs because of that. Others just drank, smoked, caroused, ate whatever....it was like summer vacation. When Canada faced off against the Russians in the first summit series in 1972 that became a real issue with Canada embarrassed on the home leg of that tournament. They were gassed throughout the early part of the series and being picked apart by tic tac toe passing and looked completely lost or pretty much how the Rangers have lately.

Conditioning is a big deal. You don't keep up you're going to have problems. That said some do have work with injuries and rehabilitation and wear and tear over time factors in too.

The best conditioned Rangers teams in my life were easily the Torts Rangers. No teams have come close and it's fairly noticeable at times. The 13-25 Rangers still had that conditioning edge because of good habits but it has definitely gone away with the AV teams and later. I dont think the current Rangers are breaking and strength records to say the least lmao.

I will say this though, as someone who is a similar stage of life as most of these players, it's not easy to stay in the gym juggling, work, house, wife, kids, etc. I of course do not make 6-8 hundred million bucks a year like our intrepid heroes do.

 

[eco's bones]

This hit wasnt dirty but it was classless. Down 2-0 in the 3rd period of game 7, Meier has been taking liberties with Igor all series and Captain mouthbreather decides the moment it's too late to try to start something. Too little too late, you shouldve grabbed him out of a scrum in Game 2 and rearranged his ugly mug. Trouba's big hits were cool, but he never did enough to protect the team's crease or stand up for his teammates.

Yeah I'm not going to criticize Trouba for that. Meier skating through a layer of Rangers defenders without a care in the world and not paying enough attention. He got what he deserved there (and I'm kind of a stickler for the point of keeping your head up and your wits about you when playing this game) and whether we were losing or not that's Jacob completely in character playing the same way as he would to the final whistle.

Jacob would regularly get into 4/5/6 fights a year but he's not really a fighter and he certainly has no business dropping the gloves with a real heavyweight and the Rangers really didn't have anyone like that for a while and they don't really in their lineup right now. Meier will throw his weight around and crowd into the opponents crease area but he almost never fights and I doubt he would have with Trouba or anybody else.

 

[WhatTheDuck]

For the record, because ESPN did this as well, each trade had it's own little situation.

Callahan had stated that he wasn't coming back, or wanted more than we could afford. So they got St. Louis at the deadline instead of getting nothing.

McD was a casualty of the Rangers starting their rebuild. They wanted assets for a guy that wasn't going to sign/slash go through a rebuild.

Trouba. I can't believe you guys took him at full salary.

I'm honestly just not that shocked, it doesn't sound like the Ducks even had the strongest offer. Trouba fits a specific need during the rebuild even if he isn't very good, the Ducks have been so soft in recent years. Costs significantly lower in real dollars vs cap hit for as long as they remain at the cap floor.

I strongly believe they'll move Fowler in a corresponding move, who makes 1.5M less on the cap but 500k more in real dollars. Ducks should get at least a bit more than what they just gave you, save a bit of money and greatly balance their blueline group in terms of handedness and playing style. Fowler is no longer a fit with all these young fellow lefty puck movers, but wouldn't even be able to move him outright without going below the cap floor prior to the Trouba deal.

 

[eco's bones]

The best conditioned Rangers teams in my life were easily the Torts Rangers. No teams have come close and it's fairly noticeable at times. The 13-25 Rangers still had that conditioning edge because of good habits but it has definitely gone away with the AV teams and later. I dont think the current Rangers are breaking and strength records to say the least lmao.

I will say this though, as someone who is a similar stage of life as most of these players, it's not easy to stay in the gym juggling, work, house, wife, kids, etc. I of course do not make 6-8 hundred million bucks a year like our intrepid heroes do.

it was a lot different in the 70's. The game was really blue collar and when I started following the Rangers the league was 99.8% Canadian players almost entirely out of the Canadian junior leagues. There might have been 4/5 college players---Red Berenson, Doug Roberts, Keith Magnuson, Cliff Korroll and maybe a couple others. The Kings had Juha Widing--a Finn who played junior hockey out in the western Canadian league of the time. That was it for the imports.

And Brad Park according to his bio was making like $15,000 a year and he was the second best defenseman in the league. Phil Esposito when he was with the Blackhawks drove a tractor trailer during the off season. The Rangers found Ed Giacomin while looking for Ed's brother working in a mine.

 

[NYRFANMANI]

This hit wasnt dirty but it was classless.

What kind of semantic sorcery is this?

 

[McRanger92]

What kind of semantic sorcery is this?

The timing of the hit in the game/series, was worse than the hit itself, which was clean as a whistle. Just my opinion. Not letting Meier off the hook either, he deserved it.

 

[Gordon Bombay]

I'm honestly just not that shocked, it doesn't sound like the Ducks even had the strongest offer. Trouba fits a specific need during the rebuild even if he isn't very good, the Ducks have been so soft in recent years. Costs significantly lower in real dollars vs cap hit for as long as they remain at the cap floor.

I strongly believe they'll move Fowler in a corresponding move, who makes 1.5M less on the cap but 500k more in real dollars. Ducks should get at least a bit more than what they just gave you, save a bit of money and greatly balance their blueline group in terms of handedness and playing style. Fowler is no longer a fit with all these young fellow lefty puck movers, but wouldn't even be able to move him outright without going below the cap floor prior to the Trouba deal.

It's funny to think that Fowler now has younger guys coming up to push him off the team. The arguments still haven't stopped about Fowler/Mcilrath and Del Zotto being why we didn't draft Fowler. Getting old, I guess lol

Originally, that's why we got Trouba. We needed someone to eat the hard mins and bring up the younger guys as the rebuild happened. I'm not sure he can even eat AHL mins now but if you put him in a structured system, no idea what you guys play, and make sure he's not chasing all over the ice he might be okay.

Also, it shows how outdated a lot of the hockey minds are now. It's so obvious Trouba can't keep up anymore, but he's got size and he throws a big hit 5 times a year so GM's still value him.

 

[eco's bones]

I'm honestly just not that shocked, it doesn't sound like the Ducks even had the strongest offer. Trouba fits a specific need during the rebuild even if he isn't very good, the Ducks have been so soft in recent years. Costs significantly lower in real dollars vs cap hit for as long as they remain at the cap floor.

I strongly believe they'll move Fowler in a corresponding move, who makes 1.5M less on the cap but 500k more in real dollars. Ducks should get at least a bit more than what they just gave you, save a bit of money and greatly balance their blueline group in terms of handedness and playing style. Fowler is no longer a fit with all these young fellow lefty puck movers, but wouldn't even be able to move him outright without going below the cap floor prior to the Trouba deal.

You know the Ducks are figuring on flipping him either at this trade deadline or the next when playoff bound teams come looking for physical playoff experienced defenseman. All Jacob has to do is play fairly well which I think he is capable of but it's a we'll see. IMO it also might be why Jacob went with the Ducks because he figures they're going to eventually move him to a playoff bound team. It might be more problematic moving him this year with one year still left on his term though.

 

[Larrybiv]

Maybe Kreider didn't want the captaincy cause he didn't want to get traded lol

Smarter than most. I remember wanting Kreids to get it, but when it became Trouba......I was like good. That should "ensure" he would be gone soon enough. I don't want to be on the Trouba bashing bandwagon, but will say I was never really impressed with him in Winnipeg, and he came here with a reputation of a booming powerpoint slapshot. I think I remember 1 goal like that. 1.
No getting around that he is slow, not horrific defenseman, but we NEED better than what he provided. Others will have to be better, no getting around that as well, until hopefully Drury fills that void. Would think Mancini and Jones will get ample PT now.

 

[Larrybiv]

I will say, thank you Jacob Trouba. I have zero doubt you were a good person, a good captain. But it had to be done because this is a business and your cap hit was nowhere near your level of play.

I know bringing this up sucks because we lost, but at the same time this was an all time hit

Everybody on the ice is now gone. Goody, Motte, Trouba and somebody we "should miss" Mikkola. He helped beat us last year and was very good for us, imho.

 

[Larrybiv]

Mika for new captain.

Haha, I see what you did there. I could hear the decisive, derisive sarcasm in those 4 little words. (one, being a name, not a word)

 

[NYRfan85]

Watching the interview during the intermission last night cemented it for me, I'm glad he's gone. He was such a douche on that interview, it was painful to watch. I can see why he needed to go, he was probably pure locker room cancer at that point.

Yes, the Rangers f'd around with him since the offseason, and I get that can mess with you, but he definitely fell off a cliff play-wise and needed out.

I'm still shocked the Ducks took on his entire salary, that is the biggest win of the whole thing.

 

[BLONG7]

Hey guys, saw some stuff about his wife's job being some kind of consideration??
What does his wife do?? How did he think this could influence trades?
What am I missing?

 

[Lindberg Cheese]

Nice trade White Garlic, next:

- Lindgren at 50% to CAL for a 2nd
- R Smith @ 50% to TBL for Sheary and a 2nd
- Krieder to DAL for Bischel
- throw Mika’s locker in the shower everyday until he waives then deal him to DET for Copp and Holl
- Vesey / flip Holl at 50% to COL for a 3rd and Fisher

 

[Bacon Artemi Bravo]

Trading Captains is a proper NYR thing now.

Third in a row.

In that case lets hurry up and get that C on Zibanejad

 

[Larrybiv]

I don't think they'll be placing the "C" on anyone this season. Didn't they NOT give a "C" to anyone following Callahan and McD's departure? There wasn't any "real" true Captain on this team, Kreider didn't want it (for HIS reasons) and Trouba won by default. Good on him for trying. Who would they give it to? A great leader and PO performer like Zibby or Panarin? Fox? I don't hardly remember too many interviews with him, and that is part of the "C"s job, right? Hell, I no sooner give it to Laf. He'll be here for a while, and seems like he has leadership qualities, being kind of an extrovert. Unless, he's afraid of being traded, lol.