Speculation: Jacob Trouba traded or waived?

[MVP Zacha]

 

[CanMerc]

As a Jets fan…I’m loving this…hoping he gets waived

 

[MB3]

Dude, you're talkng out of your ass. You have no idea what you're talking about, but you're pretending like you're the agent of Trouba.

I'll make it simple for you. If this doesn't work I can try using crayons on construction paper.

Either:

1. Trouba asked for trade protection to sign the contract that was offered.
2. Trouba didn't ask for trade protection, but the Rangers were in a great mood and said 'here you can have this really fun thing lmao I love you"

If it's option 1, and you're complaining about him utilizing the negotiated terms of his contract, it's likely you should use a drool bib in your day to day life.

 

[LiveLongandProspal]

If he's waived and claimed elsewhere and doesn't report, he doesn't get paid. That's just a breach of contract, and you let your lawyers fight that out.

The ire from Rangers fans that spam 900 messages on this forum daily is that he won't waive his NTC to be moved.

How can I say he took less money for the security of an NTC? Do you mean you think the Rangers offered him that like it was a stick of gum, and he would have signed the same contract without it? Or are you that dense to how these things work?

Let me explain this to you quite simply:

The issue is that he has a limited NTC right now. Before then, he had a full NMC. He played like shit during that time too and I, along with many other Rangers, wanted him gone. However, we knew that was unrealistic because A) he sucked; B) he was overpaid; and C) he had full control over where he could go.

Fast forward to this summer, his full NMC turned into a limited NTC, which means that Drury can trade him to some places without his permission, but not others. Right? The problem with that is that Trouba said he wouldn't report ANYWHERE. ANY.WHERE. Whether they were on his 15-team list or not. So that's a violation of his contract and ideally, if it was up to me, that would be grounds for termination. But no, Trouba pouted and bitched and whined and got his way. Drury screwed up his leverage by leaking the potential trade to Larry Brooks.

And now here we are. The issue isn't the contract that Trouba and his agent negotiated. It's Trouba violating said agreement. Yes, if we're trying to trade Trouba to a team on his no-trade list, then yes, he has every right to nullify any agreement. However, he has lost the privilege and right of getting to FULLY CONTROL where he can go.

 

[seabass45]

The same exact thing happened to McDonagh when Tampa traded him to Nashville, and what changed? This is the way it works. They are all big boys and should understand that trades happen.

Trouba was overpaid from day 1. I don't feel any remorse now that he's being forced to move on.

Tampa's excuse was that they had a crunch with the flat cap and someone had to go. Probably told him they'd try to get him back later once things opened back up, that's what happened anyway.

Rangers excuse is just buyer's remorse. Players are paying attention to this and thinking about the implications to their current and future contracts. If teams want to continue using waivers as a workaround to NTCs then players can and should adjust their demands to that.

 

[DelZottoHitTheNetJK]

I liked what NYR became under the Captaincy of Trouba. Unfortunately, he was never as good a player as NYR management thought he was. As NYR management tends to do, they way overpaid him and now it's biting them in the ass when he's starting to regress.

When he was at his peak, he was still overpaid but you could live with it even with him not getting PP time. Fox running PP1 really left him to 100% defensive usage and he got exposed there quickly.

 

[MrazeksVengeance]

Such a shame… It is not.

 

[The Crypto Guy]

Call up Hawks

To
Jacob Trouba (1 x $8M)
Rangers 2025 1st

To
T.J. Brodie (1 x $3.75M)

Lmao.

 

[LaffyTaffy13]

The wife thing was always a poor excuse to me. When you make $8mm/yr it really aint that hard to have multiple a full time live in au pair’s to watch your kids while youre at work playing hockey and your wife is at work in her residency

 

[Ovechkins Wodka]

Would the Rangers send him to the AHL if he clears waivers? Buyout?

 

[StreetHawk]

Why would any team bail out Drury again? Major collusion imo.

Should need a major asset attached to him. I do think Chicago is desperate to be more competitive so I could a claim there.

He holds a mntc. So if you are a team on that no trade list waivers is likely the only way to get him if your GM believes he can help the team.

Some teams because of their losing or city have trouble getting players. It’s an overpay against the cap but in terms of money, it’s $6 mill.

 

[CommaSynapse]

Funny to watch people try to convince themselves that Trouba is the bad guy here. On the ice, sure, he’s a shit head but he signed a contract the Rangers offered and now he’s the bad guy because he doesn’t want to bail them out? People overpay free agents every year because GMs are dumb and think past performance is a good indicator of future performance — why is Trouba any different? What am I missing, or is it just pissy Rangers fans upset that they made a bad decision, the team is trending in the wrong direction, and now the player won’t sacrifice his life for their happiness?

Just to be clear, I understand why the Rangers want him gone but seeing people attack the character of a dude for playing out his contract is wild to me. But then again, maybe I’m missing some context and I’m misinformed.

That’ll always happen. Always a vocal minority that makes it personal, but it’s business. Trouba signed a deal with NTC protection and exercised that right. I don’t have a problem with that at all as an NYR fan.

He’s played rough, for sure, but anyone would sign that contract.

We don’t truly know what happened between Trouba and Drury being the scenes other than the rumors and the lip service.

But again—it’s business and Drury worked a way around the modified NTC. Bit scummy? Yeah, I’d say so.

 

[LiveLongandProspal]

I'll make it simple for you. If this doesn't work I can try using crayons on construction paper.

Either:

1. Trouba asked for trade protection to sign the contract that was offered.
2. Trouba didn't ask for trade protection, but the Rangers were in a great mood and said 'here you can have this really fun thing lmao I love you"

If it's option 1, and you're complaining about him utilizing the negotiated terms of his contract, it's likely you should use a drool bib in your day to day life.

You really have no idea what you're talking about. Trouba signed an 8M per with a full NMC for the first 4 years and a limited NTC later on. You have absolutely no idea that he would've gotten more had he not signed that NTC. That's speculative, at best. 8M is a huge chunk and was more than many other players of a similar ilk were getting paid.

So again, stop the speculation and deal with the facts.

As a Jets fan…I’m loving this…hoping he gets waived

You guys took us to the woodshed...

 

[Smitty426]

One thing I will say to those claiming this will hurt Drury or the Rangers with UFA's, nothing the Golden Knights have done have stopped them from players signing with them so I doubt this will have any effect either.

The Knights have always been a winning team, culture etc. Now people still love going to play in NY its a terrible career move but they do it

 

[TGWL]

Why is it assumed that it's a trade or him being waived? It could be that he sucks and is being healthy scratched to send a message.

You typically aren't banned from practice when healthy scratched.

 

[KovalchukFistPump]

Why would even they waive him? Less than 1% chance a team claims him and as bad as he is, they'd still be a stuck with a huge cap hit if he goes to the AHL

Because the locker room is lost with him as captain right now. The GM tried a power move in the summer and it's backfiring. Still enough time and too talented of a team to not try to salvage this season

 

[D Wakaluk]

Spicy!

 

[The Gr8 Dane]

So is it safe to assume he will only go somewhere decently close to NY?

 

[FIRE DRURY]

Don't let your homerism get in the way. It's a shitbag way to treat a player.

It’s a business. Players get traded. In all sports.

 

[LiveLongandProspal]

So is it safe to assume he will only go somewhere decently close to NY?

Not necessarily. Detroit isn't exactly close to NY and Trouba is from Michigan.

We honestly don't know where he would be amenable to go. A few months ago, he wasn't amenable to go anywhere!

 

[Trxjw]

Would the Rangers send him to the AHL if he clears waivers? Buyout?

Almost a certainty that they know some other team will claim him. They're telling him "pick a spot you can tolerate or roll the dice on ending up somewhere else."

 

[TGWL]

Would the Rangers send him to the AHL if he clears waivers? Buyout?

I don't see a buyout happening. If Rangers retain 50% that's 4 million against next season, rather than 2 more seasons of 4m in buyout. They can't buy him out right now. So if Trouba refuses to go to the AHL, it will be termination. The scenario here is that he gets traded, waived and claimed, or waived and NYR then decide to not play him on the NHL roster and revisit this in the offseason for some 1 year, retained trade.

 

[Bouboumaster]

I hope he goes to Toronto

 

[GAGLine]

I'll make it simple for you. If this doesn't work I can try using crayons on construction paper.

Either:

1. Trouba asked for trade protection to sign the contract that was offered.
2. Trouba didn't ask for trade protection, but the Rangers were in a great mood and said 'here you can have this really fun thing lmao I love you"

If it's option 1, and you're complaining about him utilizing the negotiated terms of his contract, it's likely you should use a drool bib in your day to day life.

Trouba's trade protection is limited to 15 teams. That protection doesn't stop the team from waiving him. The Rangers could have waived him and been done with it, as apparently there is at least one team that is willing to take him on waivers. Instead, they negotiated with teams and are offering Trouba a choice of destination. That's better for the team and better for Trouba.

So, what exactly is your beef with it? We don't even know which teams are on his no trade list. It could be that one or more of the interested teams are not on his list.

Teams are under no obligation to keep a player until his contract ends. If a trade can be worked out, they have every right to trade him. If the player has trade protection, he has the right to use that protection. If the player isn't protected from waivers, the team has the right to waive him. That's what was negotiated and that is what is happening. This is in no way unfair to Trouba.

Tampa's excuse was that they had a crunch with the flat cap and someone had to go. Probably told him they'd try to get him back later once things opened back up, that's what happened anyway.

Rangers excuse is just buyer's remorse. Players are paying attention to this and thinking about the implications to their current and future contracts. If teams want to continue using waivers as a workaround to NTCs then players can and should adjust their demands to that.

Players can ask for whatever they want in negotiations. It doesn't mean they will get it, or that the teams won't ask them to take less money/term in exchange for those added protections.

Everyone on HF said that no UFAs would sign with the Rangers after what they did to Redden. Guess what? It didn't change a thing. The Rangers have a reputation for treating their players well. Too bad if they have to be a bit harsh when it comes time for a divorce. That's just the nature of the business.

 

[JKG33]

It’s a business. Players get traded. In all sports.

Really? I had no idea. Just wandered into the trade section here by accident