God Says No
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Prospect Info: Jacob Bernard-Docker (D) 3 year ELC signed
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aragorn
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Fisher was pretty strong & a very decent fighter, I don't remember Fisher ever losing a fight. Remember when he body slammed Handzus who was 6'5", 216 lbs.
Bieska was a pretty tough guy & good fighter & Fisher went toe to toe with him & Bieska lost a tooth. Fisher also went toe to toe with Tom Wilson & held his own, Fisher was tough as nails.
Bieska was a pretty tough guy & good fighter & Fisher went toe to toe with him & Bieska lost a tooth. Fisher also went toe to toe with Tom Wilson & held his own, Fisher was tough as nails.
bert
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Well he is an NHL rookie and is visibly improving. D men take longer and I think he needed to get stronger. I have no issues with him as a bottom pair guy if he continues to build on this. When he makes 800 k and not make many mistakes thats a decent value bottom pair d man.
DrEasy
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JBD has had the biggest improvement in play so far this season out of everyone in my opinion.
Grieg too, but he was pretty good last season as well.
He won’t get the accolades right now because he isn’t noticeable, but if he keeps the hits and blocked shots up he’ll start to get some love. It doesn’t help that he was playing with Chych who was doing his best to cough up pucks constantly the last few games.
We need someone to school Chabby and Chych on D zone play. JBD has the UND structure and positioning in him, you can see it in his play. He has pretty good defensive instincts, just needs to get stronger, and build his confidence. I can help but feel like guys are often not where they are supposed to be in the D zone. So often the D are making what look like set plays to move the puck and there are no forwards there to collect the pass…
He looks to have the potential to be our second Zub back there.
Grieg too, but he was pretty good last season as well.
He won’t get the accolades right now because he isn’t noticeable, but if he keeps the hits and blocked shots up he’ll start to get some love. It doesn’t help that he was playing with Chych who was doing his best to cough up pucks constantly the last few games.
We need someone to school Chabby and Chych on D zone play. JBD has the UND structure and positioning in him, you can see it in his play. He has pretty good defensive instincts, just needs to get stronger, and build his confidence. I can help but feel like guys are often not where they are supposed to be in the D zone. So often the D are making what look like set plays to move the puck and there are no forwards there to collect the pass…
He looks to have the potential to be our second Zub back there.
aragorn
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Players like JBD are never going to get the fan support because they don't play a flashy game or score a lot of goals that most fans, expecially young fans think every player should be doing to stay in the NHL. They don't care or even understand about player roles & what coaches are telling players like him they want them to do given he is a rookie & he's not really yet fully trusted by the coaching staff.
As he gets more comfortable they will trust him more, but he's never going to be noticed by fans, he's there to reduce the goals against, that's it, stop the other team from scoring against us. He does need to gain more man strength & be stronger to push guys around instead of getting pushed around. Hopefully he improves yr over yr, he's already better now than just a few weeks ago.
As he gets more comfortable they will trust him more, but he's never going to be noticed by fans, he's there to reduce the goals against, that's it, stop the other team from scoring against us. He does need to gain more man strength & be stronger to push guys around instead of getting pushed around. Hopefully he improves yr over yr, he's already better now than just a few weeks ago.
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I dunno, Zub is a fan favourite and isn’t too flashy, just a steady, reliable, skilled defensive player. Especially in a place like Ottawa, less flashy d first players (and gritty lunch pailers) seem to get a good share of love from fans. JBD hasn’t got that yet because he still makes timid plays, actively avoids contact, and makes poor decisions fairly often.
But agreed- he’s making great progress imo. I think he’ll be where he needs to be by the end of the season. I imagine fans will start praising his play when we see those issues less often, even if he remains a no flash steady d presence.
1st test for Staios. If he is smart, which I think he is, we'll go to 12 forwards and 7 D on our capped out roster. JBD should play, Hamonic in the press box, but that's DJ's call.
If Staios loses JBD on waivers, I'll start to question him, but I don't think that'll happen.
If Staios loses JBD on waivers, I'll start to question him, but I don't think that'll happen.
Xspyrit
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There's absolutely no reason to not send some of Highmore, Kelly and MacEwen, Even Chartier but he's safe for now with Greig and Kastelic not back. Jarventie needs to be the first sent back, he needs development and to play big minutes in the AHL
Agreed, I'd like to see some Guenette games but Kleven needs to play the whole year down there, same for Jarventie. Can't miss out on developing adequately some of our last few good prospects.
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Love that he got his first one and hope he establishes himself as a legitimate 3rd pairing option for us all year long.
I am glad JBD took his demotion after training camp in stride and looked decent in his role. I think with enough games he can iron out the decisions he is sometimes incorrectly making. He looks better than Hammer for whom the game is getting faster than him.
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bert
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Outside of Joseph he has been this years biggest and best surprise. Loving the way his game is evolving now that he is getting more comfortable and confident. He seems like a great partner for Sanderson. Sandy is obviously very comfortable with him. Could this be a Lindgren Fox situation? Where one guy is so talented that he is comfortable with a specific partner and it elevates that player and allows the star to play their best game?
Right handed shot D men that can play in the top 4 are few and far between. This west coast road trip will be a great test to see where JBD is at.
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He’s been playing much better lately and has looked great beside Sanderson. There’s been a few times where he’s hesitated making a play with the puck in our zone and ended up coughing it up, but I’m sure that will get tightened up as he gets more comfortable. If anything it’s nice to see that he has the confidence to take an extra second and try to make a good play rather than throwing it up the boards.
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Did they play together in UND? I think JBD was there for Sanderson's first year, but don't recall if they ever were partners.
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JBD got a baby face but I noticed that he's one of the few players on this team that looks for a big hit
JBD said in the past few days they played together "a bit" which in context he meant infrequently but they did play together
Don't remember where I read that
The JBD we are seeing now is the JBD that made him a stabilizer in WJC. If he can bring his quiet game more consistently, he is bottom pairing staple in Ottawa, who can safely play the same role up the line-up as needed (as he is doing with Sandy).
From a lacklustre training camp to his game at the moment, I have seen growth that comes with experience, so he will only get better the more he plays in the NHL. He needs to keep up his play though, with Chabot back in late January and Hamonic with an asinine NMC provided by the current manager-in-training at Gabriel's Pizza.
From a lacklustre training camp to his game at the moment, I have seen growth that comes with experience, so he will only get better the more he plays in the NHL. He needs to keep up his play though, with Chabot back in late January and Hamonic with an asinine NMC provided by the current manager-in-training at Gabriel's Pizza.
Hamonic is on a cheap contract and will be the 7D. There is no reason to worry about Hammer at all. He’s the perfect guy to come in and out of the lineup.
You don’t have awesome defenders as your 7D. You have vets with experience that are willing to be mentors and play when guys are injured.
So if Ottawa has to go with 6 d-men after signing Pinto and Chabot returning, who comes out? Hammer cannot be moved and demoting JBD potentially means losing him on waivers.
Hamonic’s NMC is definitely an issue, not only because of his on-ice regression but because of cap space. The team may not be able to keep 7-Ds.
Don’t want to lose Brannstrom or JBD for nothing, sign me up anytime on a Kubalik trade but it may not be forthcoming (also due to his performance) anytime soon.
