Speculation: Jack Eichel thread

[Lindberg Cheese]

Eichel’s not getting traded until the Pegulas deem that his punishment is up for being insubordinate. He isn’t being moved until they remind him of the hierarchy and his place. I give it another year to prove their point.

 

[Gliff]

If Calgary gets Jack, I hope they destroy VGK and ANA for the next decade, for not having the courage to give up a prospect that a healthy Jack would require 2-3 of.

How are these teams even in the same catagory?

Vegas is trying to win now and need a #1 center. Makes sense on paper to deal futures for him.
Anaheim is in a rebuild. How does it make sense to trade Zegras/Drysdale + Comtois + another high 1st?

I would rather continue the rebuild then be Buffalo West and suck until he leaves in FA.

 

[DJN21]

Eichel’s not getting traded until the Pegulas deem that his punishment is up for being insubordinate. He isn’t being moved until they remind him of the hierarchy and his place. I give it another year to prove their point.

much deserved.

 

[Dr Quincy]

Look at the wording though, "sixty (60) days from the date of the incident or event upon which the Complaint is based,"

Eichel's camp will argue the complaint is based on the date of the physical, but it seems it would be easy for the Sabres to just say it is based on the 'date of the incident'. That seems like a legit legal counter-argument to me.

The incident would be the part when the team acted against the CBA(as claimed by Eichel), not the date of injury.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

If Calgary gets Jack, I hope they destroy VGK and ANA for the next decade, for not having the courage to give up a prospect that a healthy Jack would require 2-3 of.

So your mad cause anaheim wont trade Zegras or drysdale + our high 1st +(+)for Eichel? And you think because Flames would give up zary + their 1st, its in some weird way comparable to the ducks package?

Prob a significant amount of space between the 2 teams 1st round picks, and drysdale/zegras are higher rated prospects than Zary/pelletier... hell pretty sure mctavish is seen as a better prospect than either.

 

[Daz28]

The incident would be the part when the team acted against the CBA(as claimed by Eichel), not the date of injury.

If his grievance is the disagreement over which surgery to have, and his refusal/disagreement to have the teams recommended treatment, then it's way past 60 days. To me it seems his camp is once again just doing something to create a stir, hoping the Sabres/NHL will do something to avoid more bad press.

 

[tsujimoto74]

Eichel’s not getting traded until the Pegulas deem that his punishment is up for being insubordinate. He isn’t being moved until they remind him of the hierarchy and his place. I give it another year to prove their point.

Yawn. This narrative is f***ing tired. The Sabres doctors do not think ADR is the safest/best course of treatment for Eichel. Eichel has been convinced otherwise. Figuring out where to go from there in a way that makes anyone happy is hard.

 

[itwasaforwardpass]

Zary, 1st, and stuff

or Krebs, 1st and stuff

Let's get this done.

 

[TheHudlinator]

Eichel’s not getting traded until the Pegulas deem that his punishment is up for being insubordinate. He isn’t being moved until they remind him of the hierarchy and his place. I give it another year to prove their point.

They are going to wait until the damage is permanent

 

[Leafs87]

Y’all sabres fan still wanna do Eichel for Marner? Tavares?
Asking for a friend

 

[Cirris]

Y’all sabres fan still wanna do Eichel for Marner? Tavares?
Asking for a friend

LOL, I saw Eichel trending on Twitter. It was literally due to "Marner for Eichel" chatter from leaf fans.

 

[Peiskos]

I would imagine that Eichel wouldn't want to be traded to the Leafs, and that's valid. I'm not sure why he would want to leave one dumpster fire, only to join another one just 1.5 hours away.

 

[Del Preston]

Is he out for the season regardless of which operation he gets?

 

[Dipsy Doodle]

It's Eichel's body, and it's not like neck injuries are contagious.

Sabres shouldn't have a say.

 

[My Cozen Dylan]

Is he out for the season regardless of which operation he gets?

The estimate on ADR is 4 months. So if he got traded tomorrow and had the surgery next Monday, he could possibly be back for a playoff push.

 

[nickdawg95]

Is he out for the season regardless of which operation he gets?

I thought i saw that ADR would be a 2 month-ish recovery give or take. the one the sabres want him to get would leave him out for 6 months

 

[dasaybz]

It's Eichel's body, and it's not like neck injuries are contagious.

Sabres shouldn't have a say.

You do understand that there's a CBA right?

 

[TommyDangles]

It's Eichel's body, and it's not like neck injuries are contagious.

Sabres shouldn't have a say.

The organization that gave him $80 million for 8 years shouldn't have any say on medical decisions?

 

[Just A Bit Outside]

Zary, 1st, and stuff

or Krebs, 1st and stuff

Let's get this done.

Purple stuff?

 

[supsens]

I thought i saw that ADR would be a 2 month-ish recovery give or take. the one the sabres want him to get would leave him out for 6 months

Give or take a month and that is for when he can expect to be able to train normally. He won't be back this year.

 

[Dipsy Doodle]

The organization that gave him $80 million for 8 years shouldn't have any say on medical decisions?

That's right.

He's giving them elite hockey for that money. They shouldn't have any say in his health decisions.

You do understand that there's a CBA right?

I understand it's in the CBA.

That doesn't make it right.

Society progresses, and situations like Eichel's right now highlight the need for change. If you don't have autonomy over your own health decisions - when that choice doesn't threaten anyone else's health - what do you really have?

 

[Kranix]

You do understand that there's a CBA right?

The argument of his grievance is going to be that the CBA was never meant to extend this far over surgery and treatment. See how that goes.

 

[dasaybz]

That's right.

He's giving them elite hockey for that money. They shouldn't have any say in his health decisions.



I understand it's in the CBA.

That doesn't make it right.

Society progresses, and situations like Eichel's right now highlight the need for change. If you don't have autonomy over your own health decisions - when that choice doesn't threaten anyone else's health - what do you really have?

Doesn't matter. The players agreed on it period. All of these arguments mean nothing until they can get a new CBA.

 

[Dipsy Doodle]

Doesn't matter. The players agreed on it period. All of these arguments mean nothing until they can get a new CBA.

It does matter.

Eichel takes issue with it and his absence is calling attention to it. It will be an issue moving forward - and you can be sure it'll be a big point of contention in the new CBA - because Eichel isn't acquiescing.

 

[mouser]

I thought i saw that ADR would be a 2 month-ish recovery give or take. the one the sabres want him to get would leave him out for 6 months

I think the 2 month estimates for ADR are based on non athletes in occupations without the level of physical activity and risk of injury that NHL players would have.

I’ve seen some discussions that it wouldn’t be surprising if the ADR recovery time before being cleared to play is similar to the spinal fusion surgery.