Speculation: Jack Eichel cont'd

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Daz28

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Don’t disagree, but that doesn’t answer my question. Can a team release medical information without a players consent? And if not, was it Eichel or the Sabres refusing to release it? I agree it wasn’t smart if the goal was to facilitate a trade, I’m just asking for clarification.
I would imagine Eichel either hands over the requested information, or he signs a limited release consent form. I would assume the latter, becuase if he willingly hands over the information, HIPAA may no longer apply, and they could freely disseminate that information. If he signs limited release, it would limit the provider from only allowing his health information related to a specific information, and it likely still confidential. I'm sure Eichel does not want to simply sign a normal HIPAA consent form, because they could access all his past health records. I'm not a legal expert, and I have limited HIPAA knowledge, so take this with a grain of salt.

I think GMKA absolutely has to get a good return in this instance, because he looks really bad if the surgery is successful, and has no long-term effects, while the other GM looks like a genius.
 
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LongWayDown37

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In the video, it says “Jack Eichel is now sharing his medicals”.

was it Eichel’s camp or the Sabres camp refusing to share before? I haven’t followed it that closely.
Kevin Adam’s confirmed that it’s Eichel’s camp getting more MRIs and sharing. The Sabres have still not released any medical records as of that interview.
 
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Sabres ahead of the champs in the standings and currently beating the cup runner ups. Clearly the Eichel trade leverage is in Kevin Adams’ favor with this kind of powerhouse…
 

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maybe AZ could be brought in?

Min in- Eichel 25% retained
Min out- Fiala+Greenway+1st+2nd

Az in- fiala+ retain on eichel (25%)+ wild 2nd
Az out- 1st+ dump to even salary

buf in- Greenway + wild 1st + Az 1st + az dump to even out the salary buff needs to hit floor
buf out: eichel


not sure if that would be enough but thats close to value they want

I don’t see how this makes any sense for Arizona. You’re basically proposing a AZ 1st for pending RFA Fiala and a 2nd. That’s on top of locking up a salary retention slot for 5 years, when AZ already has a long term slot used on OEL.

That AZ 1st will be worth far more then the Coyotes could ever trade Fiala for at the deadline or the value of re-signing Fiala to a extension that doesn’t fit their rebuild timeline.
 
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Man watching Buffalo without eichel makes me wonder if eichel really is a locker room cancer
The cancer was Kreuger, not Eichel. Sabres put on a good show tonight, and the Habs were sleep walking, but BUF simply doesn't have the talent to compete. Nice to see Thompson do some things, though.
 

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The cancer was Kreuger, not Eichel. Sabres put on a good show tonight, and the Habs were sleep walking, but BUF simply doesn't have the talent to compete. Nice to see Thompson do some things, though.

It was just one game.

And it isn't just Eichel that was taken out of the room. Risto and Reinhart were also moved over the off season.

But, it's not like the locker room was in a good place with Eichel in it before Kreuger took over. Only time will tell with regards to what Eichel is like in another team's locker room.

I do think that Eichel needs to go to a team where he can be a player and not the face of the franchise. Vegas would seem to be a really good fit in that regard.
 

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Man watching Buffalo without eichel makes me wonder if eichel really is a locker room cancer
Not necessarily a cancer but I've seen other teams, not just the NHL where everyone stands around and just watches the superstar do their thing. Not to say Eichel isn't legit good or the current Sabres roster is full of quality players, but last night they played a full team game. That may have to do with Eichel's effect on the ice, but most likely better coaching.
 

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Wonder if Vegas starts to get desperate.

Smith
Krebs
Hague/Brisson
1st

Vegas puts Eichel on LTIR until playoffs.
 

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I don’t see how this makes any sense for Arizona. You’re basically proposing a AZ 1st for pending RFA Fiala and a 2nd. That’s on top of locking up a salary retention slot for 5 years, when AZ already has a long term slot used on OEL.

That AZ 1st will be worth far more then the Coyotes could ever trade Fiala for at the deadline or the value of re-signing Fiala to a extension that doesn’t fit their rebuild timeline.

i was thinking it would be a different first than the one thats theirs (like montreals) which means they are getting fiala for cheaper than he is probably worth. I did not however consider their rebuild timeline when proposing this. i also was thinking the dump theyd send buffalo would be a higher salary but shorter term dump than the 25% retained. Maybe a prospect like khovanov or beckman would make this more likely instead of the 2nd? Idk. im not entirely sure of what coyotes needs are for the rebuild.
 

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How would Buffalo fans feel about a Morgan Frost, Travis Konecny 1st round pick offer from Philly would we need to add more say Cam York?
 

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Wonder if Vegas starts to get desperate.

Smith
Krebs
Hague/Brisson
1st

Vegas puts Eichel on LTIR until playoffs.

They're desperate, so they trade for a player that won't be able to help them until Feb at the earliest?

I'd be curious to see a breakdown of where Eichel could actually fit. It can't be too many teams with how tight the cap is right now.

I'm sure hoping it's not Detroit, though. Just not the right move IMO.

NJ could be a darkhorse. Subban only makes 2m actual dollars so he could go the other way to make the cap work.
 
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