Player Discussion Jack Campbell

[MessierII]

He was better at moving the puck. Stopping it? I’m not so sure.

All his numbers, literally all, point to him being better at stopping the puck yes.

 

[KaraLupin]

Yeah, no confidence whatsoever on that 2nd goal. Literally trying to make himself physically smaller as he's moving backwards. I didn't realize how often he drifts backwards on shots until you pointed it out.

It's long past time to move on from Schwartz and who knows how responsible he is for Campbell's struggles but even during his worst stretches in Toronto he was never this off his angles or timid looking in the crease. It honestly makes no sense.

I watched alot of Soupy's "bad stretches" in Toronto, this is exactly how he plays when he's off, say what you want about the goalie coach, but the problem is 90 percent the player.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

All his numbers, literally all, point to him being better at stopping the puck yes.

And he deteriorated to ECHL level by the final game.

 

[MessierII]

And he deteriorated to ECHL level by the final game.

He was a big reason we got to that game. You don’t get to the final four with bad goaltending.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

He was a big reason we got to that game. You don’t get to the final four with bad goaltending.

I mean he was certainly a reason why the series only lasted four games yeah.

He was better than Markstrom but that isn’t saying much.

 

[MessierII]

I mean he was certainly a reason why the series only lasted four games yeah.

He was better than Markstrom but that isn’t saying much.

If he didn’t play well down the stretch when he was finally healthy maybe we don’t even make the playoff or had to play Colorado earlier. Smith was one of the best contracts in the nhl over his time here.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

If he didn’t play well down the stretch when he was finally healthy maybe we don’t even make the playoff or had to play Colorado earlier. Smith was one of the best contracts in the nhl over his time here.

And he nose dived as the playoffs went on. He was abysmal in the Avs series. Not sure why that’s so hard to understand. He didn’t retire for nothing.

 

[MessierThanThou]

And he nose dived as the playoffs went on. He was abysmal in the Avs series. Not sure why that’s so hard to understand. He didn’t retire for nothing.

And as bad as he was, I have full confidence that he would have outplayed Campbell this season. Ditto for Koskinen.

 

[MessierThanThou]

Not saying the result will be the same, but I remember similar comments last fall posted about Smith. He ended up finding his game. I get being pissed off at a player, and wish he wasn’t here, but doesn’t do anyone any good to purposefully boo one of our own players. Have never understood that.

Smith and Koskinen performed substantially better last season. The reality is that with his numbers, Campbell should've been in the minors weeks ago, but they keep playing him, and we keep losing ground to Nashville.

 

[TGOSnipes99]

You know what is really funny and sad

Somebody told me that our goalie coach was instrumental in swaying to go for Campbell and not keumper

Paul coffey also has influence even to Katz directly. He gives his opinion on things

 

[OilerTyler]

Since the start of this season Los Angeles has sent their $5 million dollar goalie (Petersen) down to the AHL and shipped out a franchise legend (Quick). Their season has been saved by Phoenix Copley, an AHL goalie that was given an opportunity.

Meanwhile, we're talking about burning another year of McDrai on Campbell.

 

[Spawn]

Since the start of this season Los Angeles has sent their $5 million dollar goalie (Petersen) down to the AHL and shipped out a franchise legend (Quick). Their season has been saved by Phoenix Copley, an AHL goalie that was given an opportunity.

Meanwhile, we're talking about burning another year of McDrai on Campbell.

Don't worry, he's a good guy. Let's give him game 1 of the playoffs just to see if he can get it done.

 

[Spawn]

The other thing that blows about Campbell being so horrible is that it’s now put unrealistic and unfair expectations on Skinner.

He’s a rookie goalie who should be playing ~30 games this season and getting some playoff experience from on the bench.

Instead we are pinning our entire season on him and if he doesn’t perform like a starter people will be ripping into him.

He shouldn’t have to be a starter at this point in his career. He shouldn’t be expected to win playoff rounds. Yet here we are because our other goalie can’t make a save.

 

[StoveTopStauffer]

Time to LTIR Campbell to a psychologist.

 

[TKB21]

3.57 GAA .882 SP. how can the coach and GM sit idle and allow this monstrosity to continue? Send this guy down already!

 

[Fourier]

Reimer is having a tough year but he is at .892SV% and this is the first time in his career he has been under .900. He wanted to go to a contender.

Sharks trade deadline recap: Reimer’s disappointment, Eklund’s joy and context to Bonino, Eyssimont trades

After NHL’s trade deadline, Erik Karlsson, James Reimer remained San Jose Sharks, joined by top prospect William Eklund.

www.mercurynews.com

I'd revist the Karlsson deal in before the draft.

To SJ: Yamamoto, Ceci, Campbell ($1.75M retained) 2024 1st 2026 1st
To Edmonton: Karlsson ($4.25M retained --$3.50M by SJ and $725K by third team) Rights to Reimer

To get the third team to retain Edmonton gives their 2023 second and SJ give a 2023 3rd and 2023 4th

SJ has to sign a goalie anyway. Campbell at $3.25M might be a decent bounce back risk. If he does not rebound they can buy out the last two or three years of his deal.

 

[djbard99]

You know what is really funny and sad

Somebody told me that our goalie coach was instrumental in swaying to go for Campbell and not keumper

Paul coffey also has influence even to Katz directly. He gives his opinion on things

Many posters have shown Campbell’s stats declined last year in TOR and measurably. Is skinner going to win the con smythe? No, but he’s reliable .910 and even last game was well above that until our team got lazy.
It seems our org is plagued with old boys club syndrome.

 

[5 Mins 4 Ftg]

You know what is really funny and sad

Somebody told me that our goalie coach was instrumental in swaying to go for Campbell and not keumper

Paul coffey also has influence even to Katz directly. He gives his opinion on things

Anyone who had anything to do with recommending Campbell needs to be fired post haste.

 

[Sra1974]

The buyout would literally change less that 100k with our cap structure due to the Sekera buyout coming off the books. If nothing changes by the end of the season he needs to be gone. There is very little savings if we wait a year, so might as well do it now. The next 3 years we need to be as competitive as possible in the playoffs. Also the cap should rise over the next 8 years after being flat due to covid. I do not think the buyout is actually that bad.

I will be stunned if he gets bought out this summer. I would hazard they will say something along the lines of, he will be working on his game this summer and we expect he will be better after having a full year with the team.

The only thing I think that might change that is a Holland firing or retirement and then you might see it, but Holland doesn’t seem like the kind of guy to just reverse in his mistake like that,

 

[BlackDogg]

Anyone who had anything to do with recommending Campbell needs to be fired post haste.

I'd like to see what Conklin is doing at this point.

 

[Macblender]

You know what is really funny and sad

Somebody told me that our goalie coach was instrumental in swaying to go for Campbell and not keumper

Paul coffey also has influence even to Katz directly. He gives his opinion on things

Well I am sure that is a big strike against him from holland.

This is really the first time we have brought in a goalie of significance during UfA under holland and if our goalie coach said Campbell over kuemper then that is bad

 

[BudBundy]

What the hell happened to the Campbell that got .914 sv % last year. Someone check lost and found at the airport.

 

[FunkyChicken]

No way he's 6'2". Looks like Halak out there who is 5'11". Get the man a bigger chest protector that stops the shoulders from slagging.
So often just doesn't see the puck. Almost like he needs an eye exam.
Not good when your goalie starts at 5 GAA each game.
The soft approach isn't working, needs to be waive or at least called out publicly, but none of that has happened.

 

[Patch101]

So has he packed his bags yet? Why isn't he in the farm already.

 

[YakDavid]

I think there a good goalie there but I have no faith in Dustin Schwartz to do anything meaningful