Tribute (Jack Campbell is my life) Jack Campbell Extreme Appreciation Thread

[Amadeus]

I honestly blame the series loss on this guy just as much as on Marner and Matthews.

This dude let in weak goals after weak goals. Yeah he's very hard on himself for that but he shares a lot of the blame.

 

[Brown Dog]

I honestly blame the series loss on this guy just as much as on Marner and Matthews.

This dude let in weak goals after weak goals. Yeah he's very hard on himself for that but he shares a lot of the blame.

Don't think we were watching the same series. The Gallagher goal in Game 7 was a killer but before that we was stellar.

 

[slozo]

Yes I did, we were Carey Price pulling off a .945 for 3 games away from winning that series despite injuries to our captain, our best defensive D man, our trade deadline acqusition and our starting goalie while Marner and Matthews were nowhere to be seen.

Despite all that the Leafs outshot Montreal 109-83 over the elimination games and badly out-chanced them. I don't think we are THAT far off.

Keefe is a big problem. He coached scared.

Those stats are totally out of context, and don't reflect score effects on shooting stats.
Carey Price played very well, but he didn't steal the series. Going by my eye test anyways.

Campbell played very well I thought.
Again, context is key - a counter attack team like Montreal that very rarely has sustained pressure in the O zone will always have a few less shots, thus will have a higher shooting percentage (like the Kessel Leaf teams for reference).

 

[Amadeus]

Don't think we were watching the same series. The Gallagher goal in Game 7 was a killer but before that we was stellar.

That OT goal by Kotka was almost a writer from the blue line.

 

[ECYCLE]

I honestly blame the series loss on this guy just as much as on Marner and Matthews.

This dude let in weak goals after weak goals. Yeah he's very hard on himself for that but he shares a lot of the blame.

He actually showed up when Marner and Matthews were no shows. How can you equalize blame?

 

[Maplebeasts]

I honestly blame the series loss on this guy just as much as on Marner and Matthews.

This dude let in weak goals after weak goals. Yeah he's very hard on himself for that but he shares a lot of the blame.

He gave up some weak goals. He made many, many more clutch saves though. He was easily good enough for us to win if the top 6 outside of Willy and Kerfoot showed up

 

[Ziggdiezan]

Campbell was more then fine and gave us a good chance to win. Anyone blaming him has unrealistic expectations.

I think people are just frustrated with the lack of consistency. Andy put up very similar numbers and yet people blame him as the sole reason the leafs got booted in round 1 last year.

Jack played well overall but let in multiple soft back breaking goals that would have been talked about non stop if it was Andy who let them in.

 

[Ziggdiezan]

I think people may need to go rewatch some of the goals against this series....

Multiple really bad goals at key moments. I get the guy is likeable but he didnt play that well....

 

[ECYCLE]

I think people may need to go rewatch some of the goals against this series....

Multiple really bad goals at key moments. I get the guy is likeable but he didnt play that well....

He actually showed up when Marner and Matthews were no shows. How can you equalize blame? This is a recording.

 

[Ziggdiezan]

He actually showed up when Marner and Matthews were no shows. How can you equalize blame? This is a recording.

Where did I equalize blame? That is you assuming things without any evidence.

Contrary to popular belief on this forum, multiple parties can be at blame not just 1 scapegoat.. as other posters have said it was Marner/Matthews not showing up, terrible line selection from the coach, JT injury and Campbell letting in multiple soft goals at key moments

 

[ECYCLE]

Where did I equalize blame? That is you assuming things without any evidence.

Contrary to popular belief on this forum, multiple parties can be at blame not just 1 scapegoat.. as other posters have said it was Marner/Matthews not showing up, terrible line selection from the coach, JT injury and Campbell letting in multiple soft goals at key moments

Fair enough. But I would think that goaltending was the least of the concerns in this series.

 

[Ziggdiezan]

Fair enough. But I would think that goaltending was the least of the concerns in this series.

It certainly didn't help and if it happened with Andy rather than Campbell (a very likable new guy) this place would be going wild.

As I said last series, you aren't going to win anything getting shutout or scoring 1 goal in a game. Just not good enough especially when a huge chunk of the leafs cap is made up of offensive stars

 

[93WrapAround]

I think people are just frustrated with the lack of consistency. Andy put up very similar numbers and yet people blame him as the sole reason the leafs got booted in round 1 last year.

Jack played well overall but let in multiple soft back breaking goals that would have been talked about non stop if it was Andy who let them in.

This is exactly my problem. Freddy gets roasted for the exact same series as Jack just had. Strong goaltending play OVERALL but weak when we absolutely needed him in the CLUTCH. Both goalies were not the reason for a first round exit in the slightest, ie. the team in front failed them both. But again, Freddie was and still is roasted, while Campbell is beloved nearly unanimously. It really goes to show how player personalities can influence the fans and media. Personally I could not care less how a player carries himself off the ice, as long as he performs on it and his personality/off-ice actions don't negatively affect the team or his play.

 

[Gallagbi]

This is exactly my problem. Freddy gets roasted for the exact same series as Jack just had. Strong goaltending play OVERALL but weak when we absolutely needed him in the CLUTCH. Both goalies were not the reason for a first round exit in the slightest, ie. the team in front failed them both. But again, Freddie was and still is roasted, while Campbell is beloved nearly unanimously. It really goes to show how player personalities can influence the fans and media. Personally I could not care less how a player carries himself off the ice, as long as he performs on it and his personality/off-ice actions don't negatively affect the team or his play.

Fred did it 3-4 years in a row while making $5M a year. Campbell did it in his first and only opportunity while making $1.6/yr and most are expecting a platoon with him for next year

I also think our expectation was to make goaltending matter less vs Montreal than Bos/Washington/Clb

 

[JT AM da real deal]

I honestly blame the series loss on this guy just as much as on Marner and Matthews.

This dude let in weak goals after weak goals. Yeah he's very hard on himself for that but he shares a lot of the blame.

Game 7 1st goal was brutal for sure and game 5 goal he swam on was close .. 2 very bad goals for sure no doubt about it in my mind .. but he also put up best tender playoff numbers for Leafs since 1964/Bower .. and he completely owned up to both goals saying they were entirely on him and he had to be better .. but bottom line if it takes da best tender in da world to win a round #1 playoff series for Leafs (that guy is a 10M AAV guy all day every day) then we have no chance to keep 4 guys making 50% of cAP at 40M it just doesn't work in Bettman CAP era .. all other goals were screens/deflects/giveaways .. he made every other regular save all series except 2

 

[whiteandblue]

Campbell, for me, is clearly the better fit for this team than Freddie. I was never 100% sold on Fred as the tendie who would take us to Valhalla because he has been too inconsistent. Jack made some great saves throughout the series and he is not at fault for another choke job by this team. He seems like a better personality. I'm glad that Fred will go to another team without the stigma of this year's failure to get it done. I hope nothing but the best for him but Jack is da man now.

 

[Amadeus]

Game 7 1st goal was brutal for sure and game 5 goal he swam on was close .. 2 very bad goals for sure no doubt about it in my mind .. but he also put up best tender playoff numbers for Leafs since 1964/Bower .. and he completely owned up to both goals saying they were entirely on him and he had to be better .. but bottom line if it takes da best tender in da world to win a round #1 playoff series for Leafs (that guy is a 10M AAV guy all day every day) then we have no chance to keep 4 guys making 50% of cAP at 40M it just doesn't work in Bettman CAP era .. all other goals were screens/deflects/giveaways .. he made every other regular save all series except 2

He actually three softies in the series. His performance overall was good but he wasn't able to make the save when it really counted. I feel for him.

 

[Aus34Matt]

I think people may need to go rewatch some of the goals against this series....

Multiple really bad goals at key moments. I get the guy is likeable but he didnt play that well....

I can play the same game.

I think YOU need to re-watch the those marvelous clutch saves he made that kept the Leafs rolling and got them in a f***ing 3-1 series lead, 3-1 series lead that the top forwards could not f***ing close out.

No way anyone can pin this collapse on Jack, there's just no way.

 

[HamiltonNHL]

He actually three softies in the series. His performance overall was good but he wasn't able to make the save when it really counted. I feel for him.

Trash.

He played well enough for us to win.
This loss is 0.1% Campbell. Which rounds off to zero.

Nylander was the MVP, Campbell was the runner up.

 

[93WrapAround]

I can play the same game.

I think YOU need to re-watch the those marvelous clutch saves he made that kept the Leafs rolling and got them in a f***ing 3-1 series lead, 3-1 series lead that the top forwards could not f***ing close out.

No way anyone can pin this collapse on Jack, there's just no way.

3 wins in a series is not finishing the job. That's like celebrating the Leafs for going up 3-1 in the series right now.. When you "get your team" to the series clinching games and let in soft first goals - which have been absolutely pivotal in the series - it's hard to parade the fact he helped get the team close to the 2nd round.

It is what it is - I understand the expectation wasn't there given his backup status to start the year and his salary, the point here is really about going forward. Can he be a number 1 on a Cup contending team? I think the answer to that question is far from unanimous after the series. We will likely need to go get a 1B as insurance, and not a cheap backup.

 

[JT AM da real deal]

He actually three softies in the series. His performance overall was good but he wasn't able to make the save when it really counted. I feel for him.

Da third goal you think was a softie was not .. Defense lost puck directly behind his net and puck was brought into blue ice by opponent .. i think it was Sandin actually tipped it in his own net on da whack attempt to stop da bang in goal .. it is a very difficult play for a tender to make in blue ice .. hard to expect loss of puck and even harder to make adjustment with 2 guys jostling for a bang in goal .. but again if he had reaction speed of Hasek yeah maybe he makes a 10 beller

 

[Ziggdiezan]

I can play the same game.

I think YOU need to re-watch the those marvelous clutch saves he made that kept the Leafs rolling and got them in a f***ing 3-1 series lead, 3-1 series lead that the top forwards could not f***ing close out.

No way anyone can pin this collapse on Jack, there's just no way.

When did I pin the collapse on Jack? There isn't one reason the leafs lost that series. It is a collection of faults ranging from Marner/Matthews playing like shit to bad coaching to soft goals against. I've said multiple times Campbell has played well overall and made some big saves. He also let in some really bad ones that put the leafs behind in multiple games. Just some serious discrepancy between how people are viewing Campbell's play this year vs Andy's last year.

Edit: both were good enough to win the series if the offense wasn't shit, both could have been better in key moments

 

[Ziggdiezan]

This is exactly my problem. Freddy gets roasted for the exact same series as Jack just had. Strong goaltending play OVERALL but weak when we absolutely needed him in the CLUTCH. Both goalies were not the reason for a first round exit in the slightest, ie. the team in front failed them both. But again, Freddie was and still is roasted, while Campbell is beloved nearly unanimously. It really goes to show how player personalities can influence the fans and media. Personally I could not care less how a player carries himself off the ice, as long as he performs on it and his personality/off-ice actions don't negatively affect the team or his play.

Ya definitely a very similar performance. Good overall including some big saves for both of them but then letting in some weak goals to put the leafs in trouble.

Agreed on the rest too, neither is the main reason the team lost. I think it is also a little bit of shiny toy syndrome whereby newer players are given a lot more leeway and I do get that tendency.

 

[makbeer]

Me: shares detailed analysis and data.
Jack fanboys: respond with emotional replies and anecdotes.

you guys basically just have man crushes and are unable to see the facts because of it, and some are even flat out making data up.

that guy saying he had the best stats since 1964 when Freddy had better numbers just a year ago.

this kind of emotional blindness is why we never win anything .

 

[Alamo Leafer]

The big boys couldn't score, the team couldn't stop getting knocked around and injured, our coaching staff couldn't get the team ready on time, and adjust to fix the PP for the past 2 months, which should've been canary in the mine right there, and some folks are all over Jack for the odd gaff every goalie makes in a given PO series.

I don't know. I must've been watching a different series. I didn't (refused) watch the last game, but I thought this guy gave us many chances, but the team in front of him couldn't get the job done.

He sure as heck was more dependable than Freddie, and I would be more comfortable with him in the net than anyone else we got in our system presently.