Tribute (Jack Campbell is my life) Jack Campbell Extreme Appreciation Thread

[CapspaceKiller]

Played great, let in one softy in game 7, but outside that he was solid as a rock. Basically game 6 would've been a blowout for Montreal without him. Nobody bothered showing up except him for 45 minutes. Had a shutout during the series. He out-dueled Carey Price for probably 75% of the time. He let in 13 goals in 7 games, anybody blaming him is a hater. Score some damn goals.

 

[marquee]

Did a good but not great job.

Poor when it counted. Inexcusable number of softies in the series proving why he's a great backup but not a goalie you could go on a cup run with.

Can't hold his balance in the butterfly.
Swims more than phelps.
Too many goals through and under him.
Sucks at puckhandling which puts pressure on our D.
Can't cover the puck which puts pressure on our D.
Looks tiny in net.

He's not a better goalie than Fred was last year or the years before. This year who knows, should have pulled Jack in game 5 at 3-0 and given Fred a look to see where he's at.

I said all along that this was a hot streak and Jack wasn't technically and stylistically trustworthy to carry us through the playoffs once teams had time to figure him out and scout his weaknesses.

Swims? He’s very technically sound as a goaltender and unlike Freddy doesn’t live on his knees.

he’s also holds an upright position similar to price he doesn’t look small in the crease and is very confident. I dunno which Jack Campbell you’ve watched he’s the best goalie that's come through here in years.

it’s a breath of fresh air not seeing some 6’6 tender sit in the butterfly all game. I’d rather the guy who’s more upright,athletic, good positionally and quiet in net.

 

[Mr Knies Guy]

How about being smart enough to using some context then? Price let in a slew of soft deflating goals as well. Yet Montreal played on with heart and intensity regardless. Price doesnt get any flack because they were the huge underdogs and his team preformed in front of him when it counted and they won.

If people want to say Campbell let in a soft goal they can because he did. When people start going overboard saying he is a reason they lost the game or the series or even that Price was some elite force, those people need to be corrected because this situation is nothing like our situations of the past 18 years.

The difference now is that the caliber of our team and defence was at a level our goaltending shouldnt be expected to have to carry it over a team 20 points behind, barely a playoff entry and dominated by us all season. Yet, here we are again.

Aside from your inductive fallacy conflating criticisms of the soft goals - who is saying Campbell lost the Leafs the series?

 

[sxvnert]

There is nothing else he could have done for us to win game 6 or 7

This. Basically he needed back to back shutouts just to bring them to overtime.

 

[JT AM da real deal]

We finally got a guy who owns up to reality .. he is last guy I would be moving .. played pretty darn well too .. owns his mistakes .. I did not see one other person on squad own up to anything but Soup ..

bottom line that Gally goal was house league as was Marner's interior cut at blue line which created da chance .. playoff hockey folks always go to outside on break in but Mitch did not want to get hit .. Soup always keep your stick and pads tight on 5 hole .. 2 very bad mistakes and result was a goal against

 

[hoglund]

The series loss wasn't Campbell's fault, the 1st goal last night was soft, he allowed 2 goals on 23 shots, not great, but not terrible either. They lost because Price allowed 1 goal on 29 shots. Price stole the series like he did last year against Pittsburgh.

 

[koyvoo]

Sure, Jack let in the bad goal in game 7… but he had no help from the team. They failed to score on Price.

Did we expect Jack to go end to end dancing through all 5 Montreal players, then go top shelf on Price…. Yeah right.

Marner and Matthews need to own this.

It really is a mirror image to what Freddy went through. Didn’t play his best when we needed him to, but our pretender star forwards let him down as much, if not more than he let them down.

It’s literally exactly the same.

 

[makbeer]

I coach goalies so when I watch them I am looking for holes in their game. If you didn’t notice Jack’s issues in keeping his butterfly in scrambles or the way he collapses his hips when he drops or the fact he goes into VH on shots he shouldn’t even be going down on and he got lucky caufield ringed it off the crossbar I can’t blame you.

And let’s not get started on his hand position coming off his post on which plays which cost two goals in the series or his puck handling which helped the Canadiens establish their forecheck and directly led to two turnovers which ended up in goals off the sticks of hurried leafs defenders.

Jack has two elite skills: reading the play and tracking the puck through screens.

In this series, he was “good” - but good isn’t enough in the playoffs when you have Carey Price across from you .

And don’t take my word from it - the guys over at ingoalmag and their team who study goalies for a living ranked the round 1 goalies in goals saved above expected and Price was first at 8+ and Jack was 11th at 1+.

goalies accounted for a 7 goal difference in the series where the Leafs losses were by a total of 5 goals.

So yes Campbell was ok. But no he was not good enough. And he was absolutely one of the reasons we lost the series because you simply can’t allow that first goal in game 7.

stats show the team who scores first wins 75% of game 7s and THAT shot goes in? It’s inexcusable.

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[Aus34Matt]

All this comments "he let in a soft goal in Game 7" bs... what's wrong with you people?

They shouldn't have been playing a Game 7 at all if our top guys did their job like Campbell did.

 

[Gabriel426]

All this comments "he let in a soft goal in Game 7" bs... what's wrong with you people?

They shouldn't have been playing a Game 7 at all if our top guys did their job like Campbell did.

Best post of the Day.
Let’s blame Campbell for Game 7 or Price for stealing Game 7.
They should have finished it in Game 5 or 6.

 

[93WrapAround]

Ppl think Game 7 was the only series clinching game he let in softies in? Did you miss Game 5? Sandin turned the puck over sure, but those goals cannot go in. They were soft. 2 of 3 series clinching games he shot our team in the foot with soft first goals. He was solid this series but not great. I am not confident in him as our future goaltender.

His post game interview was concerning as well tbh. Every question, even about the team and not him, was met with an "I don't know, I can't be this trash" type of sobbing answer. Like Jack the series wasn't all on you at all, stop shouldering all of the blame/being a complete wreck.

 

[ottomaddox]

Ppl think Game 7 was the only series clinching game he let in softies in? Did you miss Game 5? Sandin turned the puck over sure, but those goals cannot go in. They were soft. 2 of 3 series clinching games he shot our team in the foot with soft first goals. He was solid this series but not great. I am not confident in him as our future goaltender.

His post game interview was concerning as well tbh. Every question, even about the team and not him, was met with an "I don't know, I can't be this trash" type of sobbing answer. Like Jack the series wasn't all on you at all, stop shouldering all of the blame/being a complete wreck.

They can't all be like Carry Price, and they don't always need to be that (near perfect) to win a playoff series. For f***s sakes I'm amazed you didn't blame him for not stopping the 2 on 0 in game 5 OT.

Ed Balfour had an all time series vs. OTT and the Leafs still never won a cup with him. He's a Hall of Fame goalie too.

 

[makbeer]

Since you guys love simple stats lets put it in a way everyone can understand:

In the 3 elimination games Campbell was an .892 and faced 83 shots
In the 3 elimination games Price was a .945 and faced 109 shots

He absolutely stole the series and Campbell was bad when it counted.

Leafs can not win a cup with Jack Campbell in net. He is an amazing backup, he is not an elite starter.

 

[ottomaddox]

Since you guys love simple stats lets put it in a way everyone can understand:

In the 3 elimination games Campbell was an .892 and faced 83 shots
In the 3 elimination games Price was a .945 and faced 109 shots

He absolutely stole the series and Campbell was bad when it counted.

Leafs can not win a cup with Jack Campbell in net. He is an amazing backup, he is not an elite starter.

Campbell will likely be long gone before Toronto can even win a playoff round. Stanley Cup? Do you really think TOR is that close? Did you watch that series?

 

[Menzinger]

Since you guys love simple stats lets put it in a way everyone can understand:

In the 3 elimination games Campbell was an .892 and faced 83 shots
In the 3 elimination games Price was a .945 and faced 109 shots

He absolutely stole the series and Campbell was bad when it counted.

Leafs can not win a cup with Jack Campbell in net. He is an amazing backup, he is not an elite starter.

I'd agree game 7 wasn't his finest moment that series.

But the wider context is he finished with a .934 sv% and averaged less than 2 goals against per game over the course of the series. That was more than good enough goaltending for the team to win with if some of the other parts of the team had carried their share of the task

 

[makbeer]

Campbell will likely be long gone before Toronto can even win a playoff round. Stanley Cup? Do you really think TOR is that close? Did you watch that series?

Yes I did, we were Carey Price pulling off a .945 for 3 games away from winning that series despite injuries to our captain, our best defensive D man, our trade deadline acqusition and our starting goalie while Marner and Matthews were nowhere to be seen.

Despite all that the Leafs outshot Montreal 109-83 over the elimination games and badly out-chanced them. I don't think we are THAT far off.

Keefe is a big problem. He coached scared.

 

[stickty111]

Campbell was more then fine and gave us a good chance to win. Anyone blaming him has unrealistic expectations.

 

[makbeer]

I'd agree game 7 wasn't his finest moment that series.

But the wider context is he finished with a .934 sv% and averaged less than 2 goals against per game over the course of the series. That was more than good enough goaltending for the team to win with if some of the other parts of the team had carried their share of the task

Overall numbers were good but what makes elite goalies is the ability to shut the door and end a series.

There are three things that really matter for goaltenders in the playoffs:

1) Don't let in softies
2) Rob a few sure goals
3) steal at least one game in the series

Campbell let in softies and didn't steal enough goals.

He only had a .571 sv% on high danger chances
Price had a .810 sv%

Campbell started really good.
He became mediocre for the last 3 games.
He never stole a game.

Goaltending is about 5th on my list of reasons they lost behind coaching, matthews/marner and injuries, but it's definitely on that list. Most people overrate Campbell because he's a super lovable guy.

 

[killer1980]

Nothing wrong with him. Really upset me that anyone could try to hang the loss on him. Was brought in as a backup and outshone the starter. Don't know that he is the goalie that will take us to the promised land but, all things considered, he was one our brightest lights. There are so many more people, both on the ice and off, that we should blame.

 

[makbeer]

I just get annoyed that people act like this was the best goaltending playoff performance in the last 20 years for the Leafs.

Forget Belfour or Cujo, Freddy had (slightly) better numbers last season vs Columbus, vs a way heavier workload (games of 43, 39 and 34 shots against) and he also never had a sub .900 game in the series.

He has also stole at least one game in every series we have had him in: he stole game 1 vs the jackets, he stole 2 games vs Boston in 2017/2018, and one game against Washington in 2016/2017 when he faced 50 shots. Both the washington and boston series were crazy levels of difficulty compared to this one and Freddy had great numbers in each.,

In fact the best playoff goaltending performance in recent memory may be Reimer in 2012-2013 when he stole 3 games against Boston.

The fan base is purely stuck in recency bias and the fact that Campbell is the nicest guy to walk the planet, possibly ever.

Let's not forget what great work our goalies have done in the past.

 

[Glacious]

Were some of you really expecting Campbell to play at an elite level for the entire series? The reason people aren't getting on his case is because most us of just hoped he would play well enough to give the team a chance to win, which he did.

He's a 29 year old career backup who makes 1/6th of Price's salary and 1/3 of Anderson's. Expecting him to outduel Price this series was unreasonable. Expecting Freddy to outduel a relative unknown in Columbus last year was totally reasonable. Jack met or exceeded expectations while Freddy failed to meet them. Seems simple to me.

Campbell may have given up some soft goals this series but I didn't see anything as bad as the Nordstrom goal from 2019 or the Foudy goal from last year. Those goals were sould crushers.

 

[Menzinger]

Overall numbers were good but what makes elite goalies is the ability to shut the door and end a series.

There are three things that really matter for goaltenders in the playoffs:

1) Don't let in softies
2) Rob a few sure goals
3) steal at least one game in the series

Campbell let in softies and didn't steal enough goals.

He only had a .571 sv% on high danger chances
Price had a .810 sv%

Campbell started really good.
He became mediocre for the last 3 games.
He never stole a game.

Goaltending is about 5th on my list of reasons they lost behind coaching, matthews/marner and injuries, but it's definitely on that list. Most people overrate Campbell because he's a super lovable guy.

In many ways I don't disagree with your points however one the thing is though, is that I don't think he needs to be elite for things to work out even in the longer term. I'm certainly not suggesting he's at that level in terms of technical ability despite those impressive stats. He needs to be consistently just good enough for the rest of the team to have a high probability of winning the game if the team follows up with goal scoring or above average defensive play from the skaters. And I think Campbell is very capable of being that type of player.

 

[makbeer]

Scoring yes, they need to find a way to get more than 1 goal with a minute left for sure. Leafs defensive play was actually really good though. If you look at the game 7 shot chart they only allowed one shot from a high danger spot all game (it went in) and for the most part everything else is kept to distance or kept to poor angles. They kept the royal road really clean as well.

 

[ottomaddox]

Yes I did, we were Carey Price pulling off a .945 for 3 games away from winning that series despite injuries to our captain, our best defensive D man, our trade deadline acqusition and our starting goalie while Marner and Matthews were nowhere to be seen.

Despite all that the Leafs outshot Montreal 109-83 over the elimination games and badly out-chanced them. I don't think we are THAT far off.

Keefe is a big problem. He coached scared.

Coaching, injuries, depth issues, 2 key players are falling flat...yeah I would say they are not ready at all to go far in the playoffs.

 

[ECYCLE]

Campbell has kept Toronto close throughout the series and has exceeded all expectations for him coming into the series. Last 3 games, Campbell had far more pressure then Price seeing as his team was always chasing, never leading. Sure Campbell could have been better, but he doesn't deserve any of the blame. Some of the posts in here are nuts. Love Campbell!