Proposal: J.T. Miller to TOR

[DangleBojangle]

Value is decent I guess, but the quantity for quality offers never excite anyone. I think this offer is beaten quite easily by other contending teams

lmao Toffoli went for a 1st, 5th, Heineman and Pitlick
with my offer you get more picks, a better prospect, and ready NHLers that you can flip for picks.

 

[TheDoldrums]

A late 1st and not much else

Knies is by far the most valuable part of this offer

oh wait it was edited lmao

 

[DangleBojangle]

Knies is by far the most valuable part of this offer

Exactly
6'3 Young American, from Arizona, sounds familiar doesn't it

 

[Bettman Returnz]

Your 1st will be a mid-late 20’s which is pretty blah. And you don’t even throw in a better prospect than knies (not that We wouldn’t welcome him as part of the package).

 

[MNRube]

lmao Toffoli went for a 1st, 5th, Heineman and Pitlick
with my offer you get more picks, a better prospect, and ready NHLers that you can flip for picks.

Toffoli is half the player Miller is

 

[Hodge]

Knies is by far the most valuable part of this offer

This guy put Ty Voit in the OP and then changed it to Knies as soon as the replies started rolling in.

 

[TheDoldrums]

This guy put Ty Voit in the OP and then changed it to Knies as soon as the replies started rolling in.

lol welp

 

[DangleBojangle]

This guy put Ty Voit in the OP and then changed it to Knies as soon as the replies started rolling in.

I changed my mind

 

[HockeyVirus]

Canucks fans will be very disappointed if he gets traded on what he returns. That is a 1st + our top prospect + a middle 6 center/winger + a good #5 dman + for a guy with 1.5 years left of term. And fans are saying add another first + lol

 

[Love]

The Leafs forwards would be insane with Miller. But this trade doesn’t really make a lot of sense to me for two reasons :

1. Its very likely that a different team would offer something more appealing to the Canucks.

2. If Toronto were to throw a big package like this at a player, wouldn’t they want that player to be a defenceman? Or even a goaltender? Could be wrong here Leafs fans but to me Toronto’s forwards look pretty good.

 

[Bettman Returnz]

Canucks fans will be very disappointed if he gets traded on what he returns. That is a 1st + our top prospect + a middle 6 center/winger + a good #5 dman + for a guy with 1.5 years left of term. And fans are saying add another first + lol

No we are saying remove dermott for something more appealing… we don’t need your cap dump. Heck the offer Is better without dermott anyways and/or up the prospect from knies to something greater.

 

[Bettman Returnz]

Honestly the rangers offer including Kravtsov & Lundqvist is more appealing…

 

[Canuck86]

lock it up been here done this before...no common ground can be found for the 2 teams

 

[Diamonddog01]

Canucks fans will be very disappointed if he gets traded on what he returns. That is a 1st + our top prospect + a middle 6 center/winger + a good #5 dman + for a guy with 1.5 years left of term. And fans are saying add another first + lol

Highly doubtful. Players of Miller's caliber (and with term) aren't traded for scraps. In any case most of us want to re-sign him.

As per usual with this OP and Toronto proposals, Vancouver politely declines.

 

[Foppberg]

A whole lot of nothing. Typical Leafs proposal lol

 

[Suntouchable13]

I'd love to see what the real deal will look like (if Vancouver actually trades him) as opposed to what fans think the deal will look like. I think this proposal is much closer to what Vancouver will get for JT Miller if they decide to trade him. GMs ain't going to give up top prospects for 2 playoff runs with this guy and the 2022 first round pick will be late anyway. You're not trading him to a lottery team. Be realistic. But, we shall see.

 

[DangleBojangle]

A whole lot of nothing. Typical Leafs proposal lol

More than what you'll actually get for Miller

 

[Bettman Returnz]

I don’t think a 1st + good prospect + is asking too much…

It’s when you start adding on dermott/ cap dumps you lose us.

so drop dermott and either up the prospect (from knies to something greater) and/or add a better pick.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

A whole lot of nothing. Typical Leafs proposal lol

To be fair a 1st isn't nothing and neither is Knies

 

[AvroArrow]

A whole lot of nothing. Typical Leafs proposal lol

1st + Knies is not nothing.

JT Miller is a phenomenal player but it just doesn't make sense for us. He's strictly a rental and the price would be way too high for us. Top prospect + 1st rounder for half a season + 1 playoff run of Miller is not worth it for us. If we were able to re-sign him or at least attempt to re-sign him, I'd be willing to add to bring him over but this is strictly 1 playoff run. He'll be getting 8M + on his next deal for sure.

If we're moving our 1st + a top prospect, I would prefer to go after a legitimate top 4 D-man or a physical winger who can chip in on offence. Scoring is not a need for us, we need a physical player with good size who knows how to throw his weight around. Which is what Knies projects to be in a couple of years. 6'3, 210 lbs LW who also has great hands. His ceiling is like a physical JVR, his floor is like Colby Armstrong.

Obviously adding JT Miller immediately makes us a better team, but there's other holes on the roster that should be priortized. Top 4D + Physical top 6 or at least middle 6 winger.

 

[Phrasing]

I'm not exactly sure what the Canucks are looking for. Are they trying to rebuild? If so, you can trade both Dermott and Kerfoot for even more picks. Knies is a pretty good prospect.

They are not looking to rebuild. Most recently management clearly stated not a rebuild. Bunch of picks and b rated prospects does nothing for Canucks. I even doubt they value a first round pick very highly. They’re likely looking at nhl ready prospects or very young nhl players. This deal does nothing for the Canucks.

 

[habsfan44]

I don't see how Toronto doesn't get fleeced on this deal. Toronto hate continues.. Kerfoot is a solid top 9 player, Knies is big riser, Dermott is a bottom pairing D, 1st/4th.

Can quote this post when Miller doesn't go anywhere close to this value.

Canuck fans can correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think they're looking for a solid third liner , Knies is a shiny toy but probably the best piece in the offer , Dermott is an overrated bottom pair defender and a late first and fourth are hardly awe inspiring . I fail to see the "Toronto hate" but I am detecting more than a hint of homerism .

 

[Gstank]

Can you point to a trade in history that has this value or a similar package? Doubt you can even find a comparable to this ask.

Matt Duchene to Ottawa
Ryan Orielly to Stl

 

[CatchyTune]

So what im getting from this thread is JT Miller is worth more than Eichel

 

[CupcakeSprinkles]

Canuck fans can correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think they're looking for a solid third liner , Knives is a shiny toy but probably the best piece in the offer , Dermott is an overrated bottom pair defender and a late first and fourth are hardly awe inspiring . I fail to see the "Toronto hate" but I am detecting more than a hint of homerism .

It’s a pretty easy question.. point to a comparable deal for a player like Miller then see the above return.