Proposal: J.T. Miller to TOR

[John Mandalorian]

Right. My point is that the Leafs offer here is typically what teams pay to rent a top forward like JTM for one playoff run. To get him for two they (or some other team) need to step up with a 1st + two of their top prospects or two 1sts + a top prospect or something along those lines.

That might be the ask but what happens if no team "steps up" with that kind of an offer this year? What's the ask going to be next year when he'd simply be a rental?

 

[CatchyTune]

Because they are being forced to take Kerfoot and Dermott.

Do people really believe either carry anything close to negative value

Kerfoot is well insulated on a stacked team offensively. He would not have anywhere close to his numbers in Vancouver.

Way to miss the point.

I know i jus be sayin shit

 

[wetcoast]

Right. My point is that the Leafs offer here is typically what teams pay to rent a top forward like JTM for one playoff run. To get him for two they (or some other team) need to step up with a 1st + two of their top prospects or two 1sts + a top prospect or something along those lines.

Sure if it comes with the Canucks retaining say 50% salary I can see the Leafs offering 2 firsts and say Knies but I'm not entirely sold that the Leafs need is a guy like Miller really.

 

[Hodge]

That might be the ask but what happens if no team "steps up" with that kind of an offer this year? What's the ask going to be next year when he'd simply be a rental?

The offers they get for Miller at the 2023 trade deadline should be similar to the one in this thread so they're not losing out on anything by keeping him.

 

[John Mandalorian]

The offers they get for Miller at the 2023 trade deadline should be similar to the one in this thread so they're not losing out on anything by keeping him.

Half of the selling points from Canuck fans have been tied to two cup runs.

 

[Canuck Luck]

Alex Kerfoot is outscoring Elias Pettersson this year

And Kadri is outscoring anyone on the leafs… your point?

 

[CatchyTune]

The offers they get for Miller at the 2023 trade deadline should be similar to the one in this thread so they're not losing out on anything by keeping him.

He loses a lot of value becoming a rental next year. Has a lot more value at this deadline

 

[Canadian Canuck]

That might be the ask but what happens if no team "steps up" with that kind of an offer this year? What's the ask going to be next year when he'd simply be a rental?

Then we keep Miller..

 

[Cogburn]

Then we keep Miller..

Yeah, even our writers, who seem desperate to break something and want movement, are recommending this.

 

[John Mandalorian]

Then we keep Miller..

What if he gets injured next year or his level of play dips?

 

[Cogburn]

What if he gets injured next year or his level of play dips?

...then we keep Miller.

 

[John Mandalorian]

...then we keep Miller.

And re-sign him?

 

[Canadian Canuck]

What if he gets injured next year or his level of play dips?

What if?…if you make decisions off what if decisions you will never win a cup as a GM. You can say this about everyone with 2 years left on their contract

 

[Canadian Canuck]

And re-sign him?

Correct

 

[John Mandalorian]

What if?…if you make decisions off what if decisions you will never win a cup as a GM. You can say this about everyone with 2 years left on their contract

You could get something extremely valuable for him even if it's not the ask.

Is this about stubbornness or principle?

 

[Cogburn]

And re-sign him?

Of course. He can still contribute with what's been described as our new direction. He's quick and skilled, and seems re-energized with Green gone.

 

[John Mandalorian]

Correct

The memory of the Canadian covid restrictions won't be too recent?

 

[Phrasing]

Maybe it would be easier to simply just say the leafs offered a wonderful package that has enormous value but does not meet the Canucks’ needs and is not desirable. Does that satisfy the ire of most of the base?

 

[wetcoast]

Correct

He will be a UFA and the Canucks will also have to deal with Brock this off season and for the 23-24 season they have to deal with Horvat and Myers and EP40 the following year.

Highly unlikely that the Canucks can give him the most money or a run at the cup so why would he sign here?

But wait you say the Canucks are doing better than we expect, then most likely one or more of EP40, Hogs or Pods are doing really well (and most likely Horvat as well) so then you need to resign all 5 over a 2 year period, just doesn't add up.

 

[M2Beezy]

To be fair Id do the OPs proposal, but not for Miller, but for Brock Boeser

 

[Hockey 4 Life]

To be fair Id do the OPs proposal, but not for Miller, but for Brock Boeser

Boeser is a good player but gets injured a lot and has a large qualifying offer. Leafs shouldn't be interested.

 

[Canadian Canuck]

The memory of the Canadian covid restrictions won't be too recent?

You could get something extremely valuable for him even if it's not the ask.

Is this about stubbornness or principle?

Why are you so offended?
Sorry we don’t want to move Miller for well under what he should fetch? Move along lol

 

[John Mandalorian]

Why are you so offended?
Sorry we don’t want to move Miller for well under what he should fetch? Move along lol

I'm not offended.

 

[Nona Di Giuseppe]

lmao..

Classic, here’s stuff I won’t miss, but a lot of it.

this deal is brutal. Awful for Canucks

 

[Canadian Canuck]

I'm not offended.

Then take a simple no? Idk what’s with all of your questions?…we don’t want that package for Miller. It’s not even close. Simple.