Speculation: J.T. Miller for Kevin Fiala +

[Gstank]

The core at F right now is
Petey, Garland, Hoglander, Podz, Horvat, Boeser. 4 of which are wingers and possibly a 5th if Petey doesnt figure it out and even then he is really poor on the dot.

 

[57special]

Miller is only 3 years older, that is not significantly older. He's not leaving his prime, he is in the beginning of it.

He's going to be 29 yo in March. You think players enter their prime at 29 yo?

 

[Gstank]

That makes sense, Miller’s extension will probably be a lot more expensive than Fiala’s extension.

I don’t see how Miller fits into the Wild’s salary structure especially since Minnesota is tied to the buyouts of Parise and Suter in the years that Miller will be in his prime.

Yea but he has 2 years left on his contract. I dont remember what the Wilds situation is with the buyouts but i think they were front heavy

 

[stl76]

Miller is only 3 years older, that is not significantly older. He's not leaving his prime, he is in the beginning of it.

I have no horse in this race, but three years age difference is significant for hockey players.

 

[57special]

Because we wont have room to resign him and all our other young forwards and out of the group Miller is 4 years olders then the rest of the core

And that's a reason for the Wild to not get Miller, for MN, also. Starting next year they have dead cap hits 14M, 15M, 15M due to buy outs. Paying Miller would not make any sense. Adding to Fiala for Miller would be insanity- unless the legendary Victor Rask is added to the deal.

 

[Webster]

Miller is only 3 years older, that is not significantly older. He's not leaving his prime, he is in the beginning of it.

Agreed. I just don't understand people who think players north of 30 are basically useless.

Doesn't Fiala play with Kaprizov, Eriksson ek, etc. on the top pp unit?

He's been in and out of the PP lately, coach not happy, I guess it's part of the reason why we could see a trade. Fiala just doesn't fit with the Wild imo.

 

[heisenbergsitti]

And that's a reason for the Wild to not get Miller, for MN, also. Starting next year they have dead cap hits 14M, 15M, 15M due to buy outs. Paying Miller would not make any sense. Adding to Fiala for Miller would be insanity- unless the legendary Victor Rask is added to the deal.

Victor Rask deal expires after this year, so it really doesn't matter

 

[Bazeek]

That makes sense, Miller’s extension will probably be a lot more expensive than Fiala’s extension.

I don’t see how Miller fits into the Wild’s salary structure especially since Minnesota is tied to the buyouts of Parise and Suter in the years that Miller will be in his prime.

Miller wouldn't fit beyond his current contract, which is probably the main reason for skepticism from Minnesota fans on this one.

 

[Maurice of Orange]

Any trade involving these teams should have a defenseman going to Vancouver as they are shallow in the cupboard on the back end.

If Benning trades Miller, he needs to grab a roster forward and a defensive prospect is a must, if not it will be a failure of a trade on Benning’s part.

 

[57special]

Victor Rask deal expires after this year, so it really doesn't matter

You know that wasn't a serious comment, right?

 

[CherryToke]

Eww Fiala is trash

 

[Gstank]

Any trade involving these teams should have a defenseman going to Vancouver as they are shallow in the cupboard on the back end.

If Benning trades Miller, he needs to grab a roster forward and a defensive prospect is a must, if not it will be a failure of a trade on Benning’s part.

This guy gets it

 

[Maurice of Orange]

Miller wouldn't fit beyond his current contract, which is probably the main reason for skepticism from Minnesota fans on this one.

Benning does have plenty of time to trade Miller and shouldn’t rush into making a trade just to make a trade.

If anything Benning should look into moving Pearson or Dickinson before trading out Miller.

 

[BenningHurtsMySoul]

Miller is playing at a point per game this season and his time in Vancouver is at 0.97 PPG and had a 72 point season in a short year with the Nucks.

Why again does Vancouver want to trade him?

He's gonna get paaaaaaaid and at this rate we can't afford him.

We need picks/prospects. Minny's 1st and Fiala is enough if they include that pick.

 

[Maurice of Orange]

Eww Fiala is trash

Kevin Fiala is like a very poor mans Geoff Courtnall.

 

[heisenbergsitti]

He's gonna get paaaaaaaid and at this rate we can't afford him.

We need picks/prospects. Minny's 1st and Fiala is enough if they include that pick.

Minnesota isn't doing that

 

[Maurice of Orange]

He's gonna get paaaaaaaid and at this rate we can't afford him.

We need picks/prospects. Minny's 1st and Fiala is enough if they include that pick.

I would be surprised if Minnesota parted with their 1st round pick in this years draft, if I were Benning I would target one of their defensive prospects maybe Lambos or O’Rourke.

I’ve heard that Benning was asking about the availability of Swedish RD Filip Johansson though, so a pick may also be in play since Johansson isn’t as well known or coveted as Lambos, O’Rourke or even Daemon Hunt.

 

[nowhereman]

Omg Canucks fans are overvaluing JT. Wild aren't going to add any picks

Over the last three seasons, only 15 players have put up more points than J.T. Miller. That's more than Stone, Point, and Rantanen and on par with Barkov. I think it's more that you're underrating him.

 

[BuiumSaveUs]

I have no horse in this race, but three years age difference is significant for hockey players.

Especially when those three years are all prime years

 

[elitepete]

He's going to be 29 yo in March. You think players enter their prime at 29 yo?

I don't know why I said beginning of his prime, I meant to say in the middle of it.

But he's not "leaving his prime".

 

[AKL]

I would be surprised if Minnesota parted with their 1st round pick in this years draft, if I were Benning I would target one of their defensive prospects maybe Lambos or O’Rourke.

I’ve heard that Benning was asking about the availability of Swedish RD Filip Johansson though, so a pick may also be in play since Johansson isn’t as well known or coveted as Lambos, O’Rourke or even Daemon Hunt.

Target away, but you're not going to get very far.

Bidding starts with VAN 2022 1st.

 

[MarkusNaslund19]

J.T. Miller is a heartbeat player who can do everything. He also plays with his heart on his sleeve.

While he has been really good in Vancouver, there seems to be a sense that he can get petulant and that's probably fair. But in his first year here he seemed to really believe in the process and he was absolutely incredible.

I sort of compare this to Ryan O'Reilly leaving Buffalo where he stopped believing and then being incredible once he went to a better team.

We have the option of waiting until next year to do anything with Miller if we want to and still getting a king's ransom if we deal him at the deadline. Can you imagine what teams would offer if we retain on Miller and they acquire a ppg power forward who plays pp and pk for less than 3 million? A good team becomes a cup team.

So if you want him now, it's going to hurt. Fiala straight up is a joke and I like Fiala.

I can see the Mantha/Vrana deal being a model so perhaps Fiala and a 1st, but personally I would want to flesh out the deal to also add either some size or an RD.

If it's just Fiala and a 1st, then we are probably going to end up trading either Fiala or Boeser for an elite RD.

If that sounds too rich for you, that's fine, it just means you don't get Miller.

 

[notsocommonsense]

I have a feeling that Fiala and Greenway are two players Guerin wants to get rid of. So why not ship those two for Miller...fair deal.

If there’s no RD available for Miller, I’d be on board w that

 

[Carl Carlson]

Has to be for a Dman. If we aren't getting a Dman out of a Miller trade then what are we doing?

 

[EpochLink]

For the love of god, don’t let Jim Benning make a trade.