Speculation: J.T. Miller for Kevin Fiala +

[The Moose is Loose]

Miller is a significantly better player than Fiala. If Minnesota doesn't add something substantial this is another L for the Canucks

 

[keppel146]

Miller is a significantly better player than Fiala. If Minnesota doesn't add something substantial this is another L for the Canucks

A 2nd which has been speculated is a significant add

 

[The Moose is Loose]

A 2nd which has been speculated is a significant add

Thats a bad trade for Vancouver if it happens

2nd is pretty inconsequential in the grand scheme

 

[CanadienShark]

Not sure why the Nucks are adding. Fiala is rebuilding his value. Miller is at the top of his. Miller is more versatile and just as impactful offensively.

 

[CraigBillington]

A 2nd which has been speculated is a significant add

It is not a significant add. Most likely, that's a 50+ overall pick (and currently looking towards late 50s) which is not great at all.

 

[John Johnson]

One guy will be negotiating a contract this summer as a 25 year old RFA. The other guy next summer as a 30 year old UFA.

So their contract statuses is what makes them the same value as players?

 

[Skinnyjimmy08]

Keep Fiala away.. don't mind the guy but that would be an awful swap for Canucks

Would make the Canucks even easier to play against with Miller gone and Fiala there

 

[Cancuks]

Canucks are already getting too small up front. Fiala only adds to that problem. Maybe Miller + Motte for Fiala + Greenway might make more sense. Wild would probably need to add a pick as well.

 

[2Pair]

So their contract statuses is what makes them the same value as players?

That and the 3.5 years difference in age? Yes. Miller is the better player, but you can't expect to get younger and cheaper in a trade and also get the better player.

 

[elitepete]

One guy will be negotiating a contract this summer as a 25 year old RFA. The other guy next summer as a 30 year old UFA.

Didn't Fiala have a tough negotiation with the Wild for his current contract? He could easily take a 1 or 2 year deal and walk himself to free agency.

Miller producing better, being able to play both wing and center, and being bigger/stronger/more physical, more than makes up for the age/contract status difference.

 

[heisenbergsitti]

Canucks are already getting too small up front. Fiala only adds to that problem. Maybe Miller + Motte for Fiala + Greenway might make more sense. Wild would probably need to add a pick as well.

Omg Canucks fans are overvaluing JT. Wild aren't going to add any picks

 

[2Pair]

Didn't Fiala have a tough negotiation with the Wild for his current contract? He could easily take a 1 or 2 year deal and walk himself to free agency.

Miller producing better, being able to play both wing and center, and being bigger/stronger/more physical, more than makes up for the age/contract status difference.

Now account for who Miller plays with and then do the same for Fiala

 

[Dickie Dunn]

We got the story here too with no plus and even the Nucks beat writer speculates a 2nd round, nothing spectacular as a plus. Does that get it done? Who knows but stop with the “significant” plus talk.

 

[Webster]

I have a feeling that Fiala and Greenway are two players Guerin wants to get rid of. So why not ship those two for Miller...fair deal.

 

[Maurice of Orange]

Omg Canucks fans are overvaluing JT. Wild aren't going to add any picks

Minnesota might not add any picks but I’ve heard from the talks that Benning and Guerin had that Benning asked about the availability of RD Filip Johansson who is currently playing with Frölunda in the SHL and Guerin asked about Miller but other then that I haven’t heard anything else but they are in negotiations for a working trade but nothing is eminent just in the preliminary stages.

 

[Gstank]

I think this is nothing more then propaganda to get other teams potentially interest. You see it all the team near the trade deadline and in the summer

 

[Canuck86]

Omg Canucks fans are overvaluing JT. Wild aren't going to add any picks

What... JT Miller is PPG since becoming a Canuck, plays with an edge, an play W or C (better for just faceoffs 58%), PP AND PK capable, making just over 5m.

That is why, Fiala is a talent for sure, but he is undersized and strictly a winger, can he PK or take faceoffs like JT?

 

[heisenbergsitti]

What... JT Miller is PPG since becoming a Canuck, plays with an edge, an play W or C (better for just faceoffs 58%), PP AND PK capable, making just over 5m.

That is why, Fiala is a talent for sure, but he is undersized and strictly a winger, can he PK or take faceoffs like JT?

Wild have guy who can take face-offs and is good. Yeah, fiala plays on power play, and pk

 

[57special]

Miller is a significantly older player than Fiala. He is leaving his prime, Fiala is entering his. I would not be willing to bet that Miller is one of those exceedingly rare players that gets better as he enters his 30's. Dumb move by the Wild, as they are a team that has to be looking ahead a few years, due to the Suter and Parise buyouts, which kick in, bigtime, next year.

If Fiala is to be trade, it needs to be for prospects and picks. I don't agree that he should be traded. He has 1st line tools...just needs to get his head together, similar to Marchand at the same age.

Oh, and while Fiala is not tall, he is very strong on his skates. He is not a guy who gets pushed off the puck- on the contrary, he is guy who is really hard to knock off it.

 

[Maurice of Orange]

Miller is playing at a point per game this season and his time in Vancouver is at 0.97 PPG and had a 72 point season in a short year with the Nucks.

Why again does Vancouver want to trade him?

 

[elitepete]

Miller is a significantly older player than Fiala. He is leaving his prime, Fiala is entering his. I would not be willing to bet that Miller is one of those exceedingly rare players that gets better as he enters his 30's. Dumb move by the Wild, as they are a team that has to be looking ahead a few years, due to the Suter and Parise buyouts, which kick in, bigtime, next year.

If Fiala is to be trade, it needs to be for prospects and picks. I don't agree that he should be traded. He has 1st line tools...just needs to get his head together, similar to Marchand at the same age.

Oh, and while Fiala is not tall, he is very strong on his skates. He is not a guy who gets pushed off the puck- on the contrary, he is guy who is really hard to knock off it.

Miller is only 3 years older, that is not significantly older. He's not leaving his prime, he is in the beginning of it.

 

[elitepete]

Now account for who Miller plays with and then do the same for Fiala

Doesn't Fiala play with Kaprizov, Eriksson ek, etc. on the top pp unit?

 

[Gstank]

Miller is playing at a point per game this season and his time in Vancouver is at 0.97 PPG and had a 72 point season in a short year with the Nucks.

Why again does Vancouver want to trade him?

Because we wont have room to resign him and all our other young forwards and out of the group Miller is 4 years olders then the rest of the core

 

[Maurice of Orange]

Because we wont have room to resign him and all our other young forwards and out of the group Miller is 4 years olders then the rest of the core

That makes sense, Miller’s extension will probably be a lot more expensive than Fiala’s extension.

I don’t see how Miller fits into the Wild’s salary structure especially since Minnesota is tied to the buyouts of Parise and Suter in the years that Miller will be in his prime.

 

[Maurice of Orange]

Doesn't Fiala play with Kaprizov, Eriksson ek, etc. on the top pp unit?

Yes he does Zuccarello and Brodin are on that PP1 unit as well.