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Prospect Info: Ivan Demidov (2024 5th OA): SKA St. Petersburg (KHL): Part II

Molson has the money, get the kid out of there and get him on the ice in Montreal. Why would they assume that a potential superstar would want to stay in a league that is a notch above the AHL?
 
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Treb said:
They could but they won't. It seems they are going to be as petty as possible.



This has been the talk today in this thread, with other similar tweets.
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To me if this is true , that tells me they are négociating. Thats is the Russian way to force the Habs to up the ante
 
Saundies said:
Russia's going to Russia. I'm even surprised he got as much ice time as he did after Kent went down, I would have thought they would have taken that as a slight or a threat in some way.

Just two more months, Ivan. Hold on lad.
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Arber should’ve went too. Have a “chat” with Rotty.
 
WeThreeKings said:
That's for moron.
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In the new Robert, here's what I see next to douchebag...

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but funny enough it's the same picture next to clown and moron...
 
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Treb said:
Habs can't up the ante as it would be cap circumvention.
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Yep. And Molson's not going to risk anything to bring Demidov over early. I mean we'd love to and if there's a legal way to do it I'm sure he will but there's no way he's going to put himself into a compromising position over this.
 
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Lafleurs Guy said:
Yep. And Molson's not going to risk anything to bring Demidov over early. I mean we'd love to and if there's a legal way to do it I'm sure he will but there's no way he's going to put himself into a compromising position over this.
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They just pay of SKA and SKA can just say they let him go early since their season is over. No one needs to know why?
 
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Treb said:
Two years actually.

But not by the Flyers giving money for it. That is cap circumvention.
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It came from the Flyers. Briere doesn't give a shit about rules. Maybe when the Hab s visited him they gave him a bag of cash. :D

Or his agent could advance him the money,
 
Boss Man Hughes said:
It came from the Flyers. Briere doesn't give a shit about rules. Maybe when the Hab s visited him they gave him a bag of cash. :D

Or his agent could advance him the money,
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We don't know what happened so why just make claims without evidence? The fact is that the KHL does not allow NHL teams to buy out player's contracts. The player must buy out his own contract.

Maybe Michkov persuaded a local investor to loan him the money. Maybe Philly fed him money through a third party but that would be investigated by the NHL and they could risk serious repercussions.

We don't know and people repeating the same unsubstantiated claim as fact is exactly why we have charlatans rising to power and influence.

Why is it so difficult to simply admit that we don't know instead of deferring to confirmation bias?

I suspect if Montreal was permitted to buy out the contract by both the NHL and KHL they absolutely would have done so by now. They do not appear to be legally able to do so unless I am mistaken, so let's just wait for actual news instead of building a narrative that is without a foundation based on facts/evidence.
 
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With a guaranteed base salary near 1M for three years to come on his first NHL contract, plus obvious bonus money to follow (but let's not even count that), any bank would be more than willing to pony up the money for Demidov to buy out the rest of his contract. Insurance could well make sure he makes it to the actual signing of the contract. You know, in case he were to drown in a puddle like some other Russian did, or accidentally fall out of a 6th story window?
 
Estimated_Prophet said:
We don't know what happened so why just make claims without evidence? The fact is that the KHL does not allow NHL teams to buy out player's contracts. The player must buy out his own contract.

Maybe Michkov persuaded a local investor to loan him the money. Maybe Philly fed him money through a third party but that would be investigated by the NHL and they could risk serious repercussions.

We don't know and people repeating the same unsubstantiated claim as fact is exactly why we have charlatans rising to power and influence.

Why is it so difficult to simply admit that we don't know instead of deferring to confirmation bias?
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I've heard of agents giving substantial loans to players in certain circumstances. I don't know why something like that couldn't simply be the case. It seems like the easiest, most probably way to buy out his contract. I doubt a hockey player with his pedigree would have any issue finding a loan. I don't know his family or their financial situation, but he might have also received an inheritance. I don't think there's really any need for behind the Scenes shenanigans, but maybe I'm too naive.
 
Its so hard to tell what the truth is (go figure its Russia) but I can believe the possibility that SKA is simply raising the cost of buying Demidov out by saying he'll go to the MHL etc.
 
Estimated_Prophet said:
We don't know what happened so why just make claims without evidence? The fact is that the KHL does not allow NHL teams to buy out player's contracts. The player must buy out his own contract.

Maybe Michkov persuaded a local investor to loan him the money. Maybe Philly fed him money through a third party but that would be investigated by the NHL and they could risk serious repercussions.

We don't know and people repeating the same unsubstantiated claim as fact is exactly why we have charlatans rising to power and influence.

Why is it so difficult to simply admit that we don't know instead of deferring to confirmation bias?

I suspect if Montreal was permitted to buy out by the contract by both the NHL and KHL they absolutely would have done so by now. They do not appear to be legally able to do so unless I am mistaken, so let's just wait for actual news instead of building a narrative that is without a foundation based on facts/evidence.
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Because there will never be evidence just like no one knows where Michkov got the money from. It is obvious to anyone with a brain that the Flyers knew he wasn't going to stay 3 years when they took him.
Now who would have the money to buy a 2 year contract if Michkov's family didn't. And there would never be an investigation of anything the Flyers did. The Habs might be investigated but why would the NHL give a shat about 6 weeks of a contract.
 
Andrei79 said:
I've heard of agents giving substantial loans to players in certain circumstances. I don't know why something like that couldn't simply be the case. It seems like the easiest, most probably way to buy out his contract. I doubt a hockey player with his pedigree would have any issue finding a loan. I don't know his family or their financial situation, but he might have also received an inheritance. I don't think there's really any need for behind the Scenes shenanigans, but maybe I'm too naive.
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And the Flyers could have given the agent a guarantee that they would cover the loan if Michkov didn't repay it.
 
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