Prospect Info: Ivan Demidov (2024 5th OA): SKA St. Petersburg (KHL): Part II

[covfefe]

The rules allowed for Michkov to buy out his contract and the simplest answer is that Michkov was loaned the money to buy out his contract because it's is/was a pretty safe bet for anyone to make because you'll quite easily get your money+interest back on the ELC alone.

It's not that simple. From the lender's perspective you still have to structure an ABL, vs an LOC, because he has no North American income, tax, or credit history.

That didn't matter previously but it does in the wake of SWIFT being shut off &, consequently, NBKI (Russia's credit monitoring agency) no longer playing nice with TransUnion and our credit infrastructure.

Yes, Milstein can find someone to write a loan secured against his future earnings, but the base infrastructure that enables us to transfer that money from a NA, or UK, institution are now completely gone. So your options become conduit in the UK with RUS banking credentials, or conduit in Russia who will accept a non-recourse loan.

To say there was shady stuff going on with the Michkov deal...is just an enormous understatement. Could go on and on.

I'm pretty sure that would be against the rules and a form of cap circumvention.

Any loan has risk and for a lender who knows hockey like an agent, the risk with Michkov was pretty darn low. Can't really go lower save guys like Crosby/Ovechkin/McDavid.

The risk is recourse, not underwriting, in this scenario.

 

[WeThreeKings]

This is 100% true that Slaf is the weak link on the PP. He only has 8 PP points; however, who is going to take his place in that spot? He doesn't screen enough, but the other players aren't built to take that kind of punishment. I am interested in your thoughts.

Personally I'd have it as a rotational item depending on where the puck is. Caufield won't screen but he can go down to the side of the net and pop out into the bumper. Demidov can weave in and out as can Suzuki.

 

[tazsub3]

Because there will never be evidence just like no one knows where Michkov got the money from. It is obvious to anyone with a brain that the Flyers knew he wasn't going to stay 3 years when they took him.
Now who would have the money to buy a 2 year contract if Michkov's family didn't. And there would never be an investigation of anything the Flyers did. The Habs might be investigated but why would the NHL give a shat about 6 weeks of a contract.

Not so hard to get a “bridge loan “ especially considering a high first round pick , future (immediate ) earning is well known.
Don’t need the Habs , nor the mob nor anything else.
Just a financial advisor or institution that wants the future business of let’s say demidov can set up the line of credit and he reimburse from his nhl contract .
If I knew him , and my firm offered financial services , I would do that in a second..

Oh and not cause I am die hard fan , but simply of the future income it might bring the firm

 

[salbutera]

This did not happen btw

Yes they worked with the White House to get Kaprizov out of Russia back to US

Wild’s Kirill Kaprizov puts tense summer behind him

The budding Minnesota Wild superstar did not answer questions Thursday about his offseason in his native Russia, at war with Ukraine after invading its neighbor in February, or whether he had difficulty getting back to the United States.

www.therinklive.com

“I know Kirill doesn’t want to talk about it but, you know, we just had some issues getting him back in the U.S.,” Guerin said. “We did get help from some friends in Washington, D.C., and we’re extremely grateful for that. And, you know, Kirill was really patient, did exactly what he had to do.

“It was just a really tough time for him. We’re just glad that he’s here. We’re glad that he’s safe and healthy and ready to go, and he’s excited. That’s behind us.”

Friedman said on 32 Thoughts Wild owner Craig Leipold used connections at Gaylord Entertainment (where he sits on the board) & US govt to identify a 3rd party broker “to help facilitate” Kaprizov’s arrival w Wild

 

[Wats]

He seems cursed to not get goal 20/50pt

 

[WeThreeKings]

He seems cursed to not get goal 20/50pt

Curse is named Rotenberg

 

[Sasha Orlov]

Yes they worked with the White House to get Kaprizov out of Russia back to US

Wild’s Kirill Kaprizov puts tense summer behind him

The budding Minnesota Wild superstar did not answer questions Thursday about his offseason in his native Russia, at war with Ukraine after invading its neighbor in February, or whether he had difficulty getting back to the United States.

www.therinklive.com

Friedman said on 32 Thoughts Wild owner Craig Leipold used connections at Gaylord Entertainment (where he sits on the board) & US govt to identify a 3rd party broker “to help facilitate” Kaprizov’s arrival w Wild

Yeah because he didn’t have a visa and got caught acquiring a fake military ID lmao not because they tried to draft him and send him to a war that hadn’t started yet

 

[Team_Spirit]

Gazprom is filthy rich. Have you seen SKA arena? This is not about money.

Their fans must be furious.

 

[Scriptor]

Personally I'd have it as a rotational item depending on where the puck is. Caufield won't screen but he can go down to the side of the net and pop out into the bumper. Demidov can weave in and out as can Suzuki.

The key is that Montreal, especially if it continues to use Suzuki the entire two minutes of the PP, can ice two formidable PP waves, each having identical elements on it;asniper, a playmaker a net front presence, etc.

Laine/Caufield - Suzuki - Slafkovsky - Hutson - 2C/Demidov

Caufield/Laine - Suzuki - Heineman - Matheson - Demidov/2C

I'd split Demidov and Hutson on the PP. Too much of the something sometimes doesn't work. Both can control the play other own PP waves.

With these two PP waves, it would be hard for the opponent's best PKers to be out there the whole time.

But, you could also put Demidov with Hutson on the first wave to see if it works?

Also, piling Caufield (instead of Laine), Hutson and Demidov on the same PP wave could surprise everyone with the mobility and permutations possible. As good as Lain's shot is from his office, he doesn't really move one iota.

 

[eklund the clown]

Curse is named Rotenberg

His name should be changed to Rottenturd.

 

[WeThreeKings]

They lost in a shootout without their best offensive player available. God that rules.

 

[dinodebino]

The day that I see him on an Instagram post roaming the streets of Montreal this summer is the day this will come to an end. Soap opera!

 

[jaffy27]

I hope Bobrov's dad is making sure this guy has a steady supply of Pellegrino and is staying clear of any >3rd floor balconies for the foreseeable future.

Need to get him to Montreal for sundress & patio weather, stat

Yup, Habs should be working double time in ensuring his passport is ready for transport with a security team to the visa office for official processing.

Then business class tickets all the way to Montreal so he can soak it all in.

The Rotenberg situation is as insane of a situation that I’ve ever witnessed in not only hockey, but sport period.

I’m sure the SKA fans are thrilled with this news!

 

[Justin11]

Something tells me that they (SKA) won't let Demidov go that easy. Even if his contract ends in a little over 2 months from now, I'm afraid that Molson will have to reach into his pocket, if things are to go smooth.

I just hope that Habs are already negotiating a release.

 

[covfefe]

Not so hard to get a “bridge loan “ especially considering a high first round pick , future (immediate ) earning is well known.
Don’t need the Habs , nor the mob nor anything else.
Just a financial advisor or institution that wants the future business of let’s say demidov can set up the line of credit and he reimburse from his nhl contract .
If I knew him , and my firm offered financial services , I would do that in a second..

Oh and not cause I am die hard fan , but simply of the future income it might bring the firm

It wouldn't be hard if he were already here. But he's in Russia, so it's incredibly hard.

I'll tap the sign again, but the infrastructure that previously existed to facilitate this type of transaction no longer exists.

 

[Runner77]

I’d much rather see CKA come to some kind of agreement to release the player rather than wait til May 31st.

It has been reported that there have been multiple contract offers by CKA and every time Demidov refused them, there seemed to have been retribution in the form of loss of playing time.

This tells me that CKA may not go away quietly. I don’t know what impediment they can come up with but since they have been so relentless with Demidov all season long and have not taken « no » for an answer repeatedly, I’d rather not find out what they might do.

Maybe May 31st will come and go and CKA does nothing. This is where an agent like Milstein who represents Demidov and several high profile Russian players, can provide critical info.

 

[Fuonki]

Gazprom is filthy rich. Have you seen SKA arena? This is not about money.

Their fans must be furious.

It's a state owned company controlling the largest natural gas reserves in the world, of course it's got nothing to do with money. Just one of the most corrupt countries in the world doing what they know best

 

[417]

I’d much rather see CKA come to some kind of agreement to release the player rather than wait til May 31st.

It has been reported that there have been multiple contract offers by CKA and every time Demidov refused them, there seemed to have been retribution in the form of loss of playing time.

This tells me that CKA may not go away quietly. I don’t know what impediment they can come up with but since they have been so relentless with Demidov all season long and have not taken « no » for an answer repeatedly, I’d rather not find out what they might do.

Maybe May 31st will come and go and CKA does nothing. This is where an agent like Milstein who represents Demidov and several high profile Russian players, can provide critical info.

They're willing to torpedo games and pretend their leading points guy is a liability.

This is going to be like an episode of "The Americans"

 

[Zine]

Yes they worked with the White House to get Kaprizov out of Russia back to US

Wild’s Kirill Kaprizov puts tense summer behind him

The budding Minnesota Wild superstar did not answer questions Thursday about his offseason in his native Russia, at war with Ukraine after invading its neighbor in February, or whether he had difficulty getting back to the United States.

www.therinklive.com

Friedman said on 32 Thoughts Wild owner Craig Leipold used connections at Gaylord Entertainment (where he sits on the board) & US govt to identify a 3rd party broker “to help facilitate” Kaprizov’s arrival w Wild

Yeah because he didn’t have a visa and got caught acquiring a fake military ID lmao not because they tried to draft him and send him to a war that hadn’t started yet

Kaprizov wasn't caught with a fake military ID. Some dumb Russian tabloid falsely reported he was, because some of his ex temmates in Ufa were caught with them. He was free to enter/leave Russia as he pleased.

But the situation still freaked out Minnesota because Kaprizov couldn't enter the USA. They then pulled some stings with the US government to get him a VISA asap.

 

[Sasha Orlov]

Kaprizov wasn't caught with a fake ID. Some dumb Russian tabloid falsely reported he was, because some of his ex temmates in Ufa were caught with them. He was free to enter/leave Russia as he pleased.

But Minnesota still freaked out because he couldn't enter the USA. They then pulled some stings to get him a VISA asap.

Either way has nothing to do with some boogeyman trying to stop Russian players from leaving the country

 

[sampollock]

KH has to make darn sure the 2C he gets fits Demi's style

 

[Leon Lucius Black]

It is just stupid behavior on SKA's part.

They have f***ed Demidov around all year which minimized any chance of him ever wanting to stay there. Now they are punishing his teammates by giving them a harder time to win without their best offensive forward while also making them a less attractive place to play for future players who want to join there with the way they treat their players.

Have fun signing more cokeheads like Kuznetsov and pieces of shit like Tony Deangelo.

 

[Zine]

Either way has nothing to do with some boogeyman trying to stop Russian players from leaving the country

The hysterics in this thread are just.......

So predictable that Demidov's benching results in posts about Putin!, Demidov won't be allowed to leave!, evil Russia, the War!!, My god it's like clockwork. lolol

The fact remains - Rotenberg is the joke of Russian hockey. It's sucks that Demidov had to deal with him. Regardless, Demidov WILL be in Montreal next year at the latest, and he will be a great player for the Habs.

 

[JackZap]

Send them a couple of bitcoins

 

[Heffyhoof]

I'm curious to see who comes off the 1st PP unit for him to fit in

Considering how Caufield and Slaf barely touch the puck, making a second unit with them and Demidov might be a better idea.