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Blue Jays Discussion: It's still the off-season (Ray: Cy Young, Berrios: 7yr ext, Semien: to TEX, Gausman: signs 5y/$110m)

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That deal is f***ing insane. In a really bad way lol. I am pretty sure Scherzer had zero intention on signing with the Mets then Stevie went wild and offered him a contract you can't say no too.
 
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Mets payroll right now is at around $250 mil - highest in the league, far surpassing the current #2, Dodgers, at $212.

Although the Dodgers aren't done yet.
 
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kb said:
IMO it is to divide.

Eg - "if you don't support xxx cause, then you must be a yyy".

The end result is always division - every single time, and that is exactly what these causes were meant to do - create an "us vs them" (division) situation. Every time. It's everywhere sadly.

All movements are created to attract and utilize the innate "superiority complex" that humans have (or get from joining), causing those within these movements to look down on those who aren't.

But back to ball. The Mets appear to be trying to be the first $500 million team to finish in the basement.
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But that is not the cause that is a person using the cause to gain power. The cause is not the issue, it's the people tyign to manipulate to get power. We disagree where the cause goes wrong but agree that it can eventually lead to division.

Back to baseball .. wow $500 million team... crazy ... is the Popcorn vendor is making $150k per year? ;)
 
Hour 2: Frank Seravalli on Habs’ Front Office Shakeup - Sportsnet.ca
On potential additional offseason moves:
"Every reason to believe the Jays have more resource to go out there and keep spending."
"My eye goes to position players on next steps, they're still in touch with some of the top position players, as recently as this weekend, these talks remain active, with Corey Seager out there, and expected to potentially sign today that's a name to watch, that's a guy who could help out the Jays. If he's getting 300 million, the Jays probably aren't getting him. Other ways for the Jays to spend on an infielder or good position player."​
Robbie Ray's Market:
"6 years could be a possibility for Robbie Ray, higher than 22, is it 5/155 or higher?"
"There's no way this cuts them off from meaningful additions to the infielder, another starting pitcher, not going to go all in on 1 player at the expense of the rest of the roster."​
On Jays next potential transactions
"I am very certain in they expect to add and plan to add a infielder and more starting pitcher and bullpen help."​
On Semien replacements:
"You can look at potentially Jose Ramirez, a Matt Chapman, known to be out there, my sense for the next couple of days is it's going to be free agent heavy."
"Jays need to get a read on Baez, and I believe they've done just that, same with Seager, what those guys are seeking, if those guys are a fit. Story, I don't see the Jays as likely."​
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Honestly if MLB could somehow bottle this frenzy of signings into a regular off season without, you know the whole lockout thing going forward it would be amazing. Because the last few days have been awesome. I have no idea how you would make that work with the way Baseball usually operates though.
 
TheBeastCoast said:
Honestly if MLB could somehow bottle this frenzy of signings into a regular off season without, you know the whole lockout thing going forward it would be amazing. Because the last few days have been awesome. I have no idea how you would make that work with the way Baseball usually operates though.
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In soccer they have 2 windows for all the transfers.
 
TheBeastCoast said:
Honestly if MLB could somehow bottle this frenzy of signings into a regular off season without, you know the whole lockout thing going forward it would be amazing. Because the last few days have been awesome. I have no idea how you would make that work with the way Baseball usually operates though.
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I agree. Thats what makes nba,nfl and nhl offseasons so much better. Same goes for the draft
 
Man Bear Pig said:
It was obvious Semien wasn't returning, not Ray. There's still a chance Ray returns. And if he does then my god is that rotation ridiculously good.
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Semien was always going but I had hope for Ray during the season. His comments after the season ended did not leave me very confident at all, and this to me looks like using his money on Gausman.

Maybe there's 'a chance' but I think it's a very small one.
 
Uncle Steve was pissy because everyone jilted him so he paid out the ass for Scherzer lmao.

43 million a year and that's without the deferrals the Nats are giving him as someone else pointed out...sweet jesus.
 
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I bet this guy will come in cheaper and preform better than Yumi :/
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Brooks Raley has had pretty bad results thus far, but it's the Rays, so he will suddenly be an elite Pen arm

Zero reason to bring Yumi into it though. That's weird. Yumi has a ton of upside.
 
a little off topic but with the amount of twitter i have seen.

anyone hear any news on mr S&M Bauer. is he having his contract abolished. the mlb and dodgers still looking to terminate or is he stuck in a mlb limbo until his time in court?
 
Breaking news: The New York Mets are reportedly considering changing their name to the New York Maxes.

Live look at scherzer announcing the deal;

I can't get over that contract, man. I know baseball free agency can wild but this feels like a whole new level of pure, unadulterated insanity
 
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Brooks Raley has had pretty bad results thus far, but it's the Rays, so he will suddenly be an elite Pen arm

Zero reason to bring Yumi into it though. That's weird. Yumi has a ton of upside.
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Just comparing them because they were two recent depth BP signings...although granted not a great direct comparison as one guy is a lefty soft-tosser.

But Yimi is projected by Steamer for an ERA of 4.20, whereas Raley for 3.8, and I'm betting the latter was a lot cheaper.

Anyway, I hope I'm wrong.
 
Projections are projections. Let's see the guys pitch before just assuming one will be garbage while the other is a ray.
 
Blitzkrug said:
Projections are projections. Let's see the guys pitch before just assuming one will be garbage while the other is a ray.
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Steamer projections are based on recent historical trends combined with standard decline based on age.

So while they're called projections, you can also just call them a summary of recent performance with a small age-based future-forward adjustment.
 
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