Confirmed with Link: It's Started! (Management firings)

[DesertedPenguin]

Maybe, maybe not. But the guy (or girl) that takes is gonna have to deal with all kinds of limitations being placed on them already that it just screams PASS.

1. Aging core with historical health issues that has to be kept around
2. No real prospect pool to speak of outside of a bunch of possible tweeners
3. Some real problem contracts
4. No legit goaltending
5. Some cap space now, but FA is awful this season. And FA spending is usually a great way to get into cap trouble anyway.

If anything, I'd say getting to 100pts next season would be a miracle.

Being a GM is the dream for these candidates, though. They see those limitations as challenges that they're eager to attack and make their mark. There is a built-in confidence that enables people to pursue these jobs in the first place.

Plus, there is no guarantee that any candidate will be offered a job down the road. Look at the Penguins for the perfect example. Mike Vellucci has been a head coaching candidate for years. He either hasn't offered or hasn't accepted a job and is still an assistant. He's 56. How many more opportunities is he going to get?

 

[Josey Wales]

Is there any news at all in who FSG is looking into aside from Gerbil Boy's BS

 

[Power Surge]

Is there any news at all in who FSG is looking into aside from Gerbil Boy's BS

Nomar Garciaparra.

But In Bostaneese language it's NO-MAH.

 

[Nikolajs Sillers]

I'm apologize if been said but Urinating Tree on YT have a fresh video.

 

[BlindWillyMcHurt]

I dug the UT vid but I think he spent a little too long harping about locking up the core. In the long list of reasons this team is where it is that ranks really low. Unless he is defining friggin' Rust and Rakell as "core" and that seems unlikely or severely misguided.

 

[Freeptop]

The video from the press conference is in this article:

FSG Wants to Build Forward-Thinking, Proactive Hockey Operations Machine | Pittsburgh Penguins

It hasn't been a great day for hockey, to say the least.For the first time since 2006, Pittsburgh isn't preparing for the playoffs following their regular-season finale, which took place last night in Columbus… and this morning, the Fenway Sports Group announced that the Penguins had relieved...

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At 07:04, Dave Beeston says, "once we bring in a new hockey operations leader, he or she will be responsible for evaluating the coaching staff, but we think Mike is terrific..."
I think people are placing way too much emphasis on the "we think Mike is terrific" part, and ignoring the "will be responsible for evaluating the coaching staff" part.
That doesn't sound like "the new GM is required to keep Mike Sullivan" to me. That sounds like, "we're leaving that up to the the GM, and just in case they decide to keep Sullivan, we don't want to be responsible for a couple months of news about his imminent firing."

I mean, I'm not saying that Sullivan won't be the coach in the fall. But I don't think it's a requirement for the new hires to keep him, either.

 

[Allie Kitsune]

I dug the UT vid but I think he spent a little too long harping about locking up the core. In the long list of reasons this team is where it is that ranks really low. Unless he is defining friggin' Rust and Rakell as "core" and that seems unlikely or severely misguided.

He was big on wanting to let Letang and Malkin walk.

 

[BlindWillyMcHurt]

He was big on wanting to let Letang and Malkin walk.

Oh.

Well then he can f*** right off, then.

I don't have much time for the people in the fanbase who wanted "to get the rebuild started years ago." f***ing why? It's not very convincing to me to say "yeah I know they still have Crosby but whatever" as if that solves that RATHER LARGE detail.

 

[ColePens]

The video from the press conference is in this article:

FSG Wants to Build Forward-Thinking, Proactive Hockey Operations Machine | Pittsburgh Penguins

It hasn't been a great day for hockey, to say the least.For the first time since 2006, Pittsburgh isn't preparing for the playoffs following their regular-season finale, which took place last night in Columbus… and this morning, the Fenway Sports Group announced that the Penguins had relieved...

www.nhl.com

At 07:04, Dave Beeston says, "once we bring in a new hockey operations leader, he or she will be responsible for evaluating the coaching staff, but we think Mike is terrific..."
I think people are placing way too much emphasis on the "we think Mike is terrific" part, and ignoring the "will be responsible for evaluating the coaching staff" part.
That doesn't sound like "the new GM is required to keep Mike Sullivan" to me. That sounds like, "we're leaving that up to the the GM, and just in case they decide to keep Sullivan, we don't want to be responsible for a couple months of news about his imminent firing."

I mean, I'm not saying that Sullivan won't be the coach in the fall. But I don't think it's a requirement for the new hires to keep him, either.

What in the f*** is forward thinking Like.. yes! We want our organization to be thinking about the future! Was that not known before Hex/Burke took the job? Were they only to think of the past!?!?

What generic business-speak bullshit language.

 

[BlindWillyMcHurt]

Also in these rundowns I see a lot of highlights from the season featuring that trash-ass cursed logo and I keep unintentionally grimacing. Thanks a pantload for that extra karmic baggage this year. Hope the jersey sales bump was worth it.

 

[ThosePuckingPenguins]

The video from the press conference is in this article:

FSG Wants to Build Forward-Thinking, Proactive Hockey Operations Machine | Pittsburgh Penguins

It hasn't been a great day for hockey, to say the least.For the first time since 2006, Pittsburgh isn't preparing for the playoffs following their regular-season finale, which took place last night in Columbus… and this morning, the Fenway Sports Group announced that the Penguins had relieved...

www.nhl.com

At 07:04, Dave Beeston says, "once we bring in a new hockey operations leader, he or she will be responsible for evaluating the coaching staff, but we think Mike is terrific..."
I think people are placing way too much emphasis on the "we think Mike is terrific" part, and ignoring the "will be responsible for evaluating the coaching staff" part.
That doesn't sound like "the new GM is required to keep Mike Sullivan" to me. That sounds like, "we're leaving that up to the the GM, and just in case they decide to keep Sullivan, we don't want to be responsible for a couple months of news about his imminent firing."

I mean, I'm not saying that Sullivan won't be the coach in the fall. But I don't think it's a requirement for the new hires to keep him, either.

It’s been said elsewhere in this thread but Lemieux and Burkle handled this the exact same way when they fired Shero. Talked up Bylsma only for GMJR to come in and fire him on day one. Only reason why I don’t think this will be the same is that they extended him last year. I do get the impression that FSG really does like Sullivan.

 

[BigEezyE22]

What in the f*** is forward thinking Like.. yes! We want our organization to be thinking about the future! Was that not known before Hex/Burke took the job? Were they only to think of the past!?!?

What generic business-speak bullshit language.

Truculence...

 

[DesertedPenguin]

What in the f*** is forward thinking Like.. yes! We want our organization to be thinking about the future! Was that not known before Hex/Burke took the job? Were they only to think of the past!?!?

What generic business-speak bullshit language.

It's a reference to incorporating analytics into the front office. Friedman reported that was the plan even before Hextall/Burke were fired and it follows the pattern established with the Boston Red Sox and with Liverpool.

Most organizations use analytics to some degree, but FSG utilizes them heavily and believes in an actual structure to ensure their usage.

 

[Pancakes]

What in the f*** is forward thinking Like.. yes! We want our organization to be thinking about the future! Was that not known before Hex/Burke took the job? Were they only to think of the past!?!?

What generic business-speak bullshit language.

It is business speak but for me I'd identify forward-thinking as a GM that is able to identify trends in the game (whether analytics, systems, or otherwise) and build teams designed to take advantage of it.

An example of that is how good Ullmark became this year after adopting a new goaltending strategy that helped become a lot better: Unmasked: 'Recoil' technique helps Ullmark to best season for Bruins.

I'd like us to be a team that is always looking for an edge like that.

 

[Pens x]

I don’t think Dubas will be available.

 

[Gurglesons]

I don’t think Dubas will be available.

Good.

 

[HandshakeLine]

Oh.

Well then he can f*** right off, then.

I don't have much time for the people in the fanbase who wanted "to get the rebuild started years ago." f***ing why? It's not very convincing to me to say "yeah I know they still have Crosby but whatever" as if that solves that RATHER LARGE detail.

b-b-b-b-but how else are thy going to show that they're really these randian supermen making the hard decisions to everyone else in the auto loan department?

 

[Power Surge]

b-b-b-b-b

Yes

[Yt]

 

[LOGiK]

Fired disco after blowing game 7 against the rangers....
Should have fired sulli after blowing (the series and) game 7 against the rangers.

Just to keep it neat.

 

[Allie Kitsune]

...I miss being able to blame everything on Svengali Morehouse.

 

[The Great Mighty Poo]

...I miss being able to blame everything on Svengali Morehouse.

Everything's coming up Morehouse!

 

[FSGDontScrewUp]

Who are the main candidates most of us haven't heard of since they're not a former GM or the media's friend?

Is there anyone who's outside the box? That's what FSG should be looking at!

 

[HandshakeLine]

Me, but if chosen, I will not serve.

 

[AuroraBorealis]

Tulsky's the galaxy brain we need. Do ittt before he gets snatched up, idiots!

 

[HandshakeLine]

Tulsky's the galaxy brain we need. Do ittt before he gets snatched up, idiots!

I mean, I am skeptical of anyone who majored in inorganic chemistry (what was O-chem too hard, C-3PO?) but I'd be lying if I wasn't curious about seeing what a completely non-traditional hire could do.