Confirmed with Link: It's Started! (Management firings)

[Giskard]

HCMS & GMMS
you wanted him out, but now he's our HC and GM toooooo

 

[BrindamoursNose]

Way out of your depth here. Those oldheads carried the team as far as it went. It was the garbage surrounding them that hurt them.

I'm not saying the oldheads failed the team - I'm saying it hurt the flexibility for the rest of the team (which may have been a necessary evil).

Keeping the oldheads was the smart thing to do probably, IMO. I still think it's impressive Hextall kept them at the AAVs he got them for.

 

[TimmyD]

Yes Genius They just won back 2 back SC's that is why they fired 3 FO employees

Well genius, the way you and others cling to those back to back cups as reasons to keep Sullivan around makes it seem like it was actually recent

 

[Josey Wales]

Penguins GM Search: Here are Six Candidates to Succeed Hextall

Well genius, the way you and others cling to those back to back cups as reasons to keep Sullivan around makes it seem like it was actually recent

I don't cling to anything, I was a Pens fan before Mario when you could put a large Firework off in Civic Arena & no one would get hurt

Penguins GM Search: Here are Six Candidates to Succeed Hextall

It wasn’t so long ago that PPG Paints Arena was a hothouse for growing promising hockey executives. During Ray Shero’s tenure as GM of the Pittsburgh Penguins, his assistants included Jason Botterill, Tom Fitzgerald, and Bill Guerin, all of whom went on to become GMs elsewhere. He also hired...

pittsburghhockeynow.com

 

[SomeDude]

Penguins GM Search: Here are Six Candidates to Succeed Hextall

I don't cling to anything, I was a Pens fan before Mario when you could put a large Firework off in Civic Arena & no one would get hurt

Congrats on being older and closer to death than your average HF poster.

 

[Le Magnifique 66]

Oh wait. F***. That last sentence

Not surprised to be honest with that contract he was handed. He better give Hextall half!!!

I'm surprised they even came this far and fired management

 

[bambamcam4ever]

I appreciate him standing up for inclusivity and being a voice for many.

I'll give him credit for that.

I agree on that, he seems like a good person.

I also think that unfortunately that's the reason the poster you quoted didn't like him.

 

[Pancakes]

Absolutely zero interest in Jason Botterill.

Not because I think he's an idiot or a bad gm. I just don't want someone coming in with any familiarity with this roster or coach. I want someone who is far enough removed from it to make actual analytical decisions and not emotional ones.

Hextall and Burke should have been that but they totally bombed and clearly had no interest in using analytics based on the players they brought in.

 

[SomeDude]

I heard @Pens x and his crew are giving Hexy a ride to the airport.

 

[Buddy Bizarre]

So Junior I am 58 ! wrong is a way of life for you

Weird flex but ok

 

[TimmyD]

Penguins GM Search: Here are Six Candidates to Succeed Hextall

I don't cling to anything, I was a Pens fan before Mario when you could put a large Firework off in Civic Arena & no one would get hurt

Penguins GM Search: Here are Six Candidates to Succeed Hextall

It wasn’t so long ago that PPG Paints Arena was a hothouse for growing promising hockey executives. During Ray Shero’s tenure as GM of the Pittsburgh Penguins, his assistants included Jason Botterill, Tom Fitzgerald, and Bill Guerin, all of whom went on to become GMs elsewhere. He also hired...

pittsburghhockeynow.com

You do cling to them though. It’s why you responded to someone by saying “back 2 back Stanley Cups to being stupid.” You think because the team won two cups under him that he couldn’t possibly turn into a bad coach. Your crutch for defending him is “back 2 back cups” because you have no actual solid things to point to over the last “checks watch” 5 years

 

[LOGiK]

Oh how I love the collective knowledge of these boards sometimes. People want to bitch just to bitch. Sullivan is here until the new GM decides if he wants to keep him or not. Sullivan is just assisting in keeping things running in the meantime. This is pretty standard shit guys. Come on now.

The new GM may decide to keep him, and at that time you can bitch till your hearts content. Until then just chill the f*** out.

Complaining about complaining. Priceless.

 

[ZorkEnchanter]

Wow... FSG did 1/2 the job.

Now fire the coach... or maybe they'll give the new GM the ability to do it.

 

[Josey Wales]

Congrats on being older and closer to death than your average HF poster.

Wow That really Hurt me to the core

 

[Joejosh999]

I’d been watch8ng to see if they canned the asst coaches which might be a small hint that Sully is on a short leash…no such luck.
I look forward to more of Rierden’s PP next year….

 

[Pens x]

I heard @Pens x and his crew are giving Hexy a ride to the airport.

Lol.

 

[BusinessGoose]

I'm not saying the oldheads failed the team - I'm saying it hurt the flexibility for the rest of the team (which may have been a necessary evil).

Keeping the oldheads was the smart thing to do probably, IMO. I still think it's impressive Hextall kept them at the AAVs he got them for.

Those 3 players didn't break our salary cap

 

[dueling mullets]

Based off of reality, and how teams usually do business. But sure, lets just overreact to everything like we always do if we don't get what we want immediately.

f***

But also based off reality, coaches usually get fired if they can't win a playoff series in 5 years....

 

[Empoleon8771]

As an aside, I find it fascinating that fans jump between "Hextall ruined this terrific team with his horrible moves" and "Sullivan hasn't had the pieces he needs to have success". Especially because the 2 playoff series with Hextall were substantially more competitive than the last 2 playoff series with JR.

This "great team" that Hextall ruined lost in the qualifying round to Montreal and got swept by the Islanders in the two previous years. But apparently that wasn't Sullivan's fault, he just needs a better team around him!

 

[Joejosh999]

But also based off reality, coaches usually get fired if they can't win a playoff series in 5 years....

Most of those coaches had not won 2 straight Cups…
having said, IMO Sully has lost their ear since about 18-19…

 

[OnMyOwn]

It’s literally been hours…let the new GM make changes, that’s their job. The FO canned who they needed to at this point.

I still think sully stays, but who knows at this point?

 

[HandshakeLine]

Congrats on being older and closer to death than your average HF poster.

I’m sure some of us are busy rewiring a house while blind drunk.

 

[SomeDude]

Weird flex but ok

 

[ZorkEnchanter]

Man getting a GM that will mix some analytics with the eye test will be perfect. We don't need some old school dude who uses the force...

Contract vs. Age vs. Analytics == Contracts like Carter and Granlund would have never been offered/taken.

New GM could be crap but at least we are trying.

Realistically, I think any GM when being interviewed will "ask about firing Sullivan" and if the Management group says no then I don't think we'll get the good GM's people have been posting.

We'll know a lot more in the next few weeks... good first step.

 

[SomeDude]

I’m sure some of us are busy rewiring a house while blind drunk.

This hits way too close to home for me with some of the projects I’ve been up to. If I stop posting abruptly just know that I hated Sully til the end.