Sportsnet: "It's something that can potentially happen in the future " Milan Lucic on playing for Canucks

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It's laughable that people think 1 extra year of Lucic for the same cap hit would be worth an asset like Puljujarvi or a 2nd.

As others have mentioned, he would need to waive his NMC to go to Vancouver which means he doesn't need to be protected. That's a non-factor. Eriksson is not significantly better than Lucic that the Oilers would add something for that part of it. It's only the extra year that's an issue. Lucic and a 4th would be fair.

Eriksson is a much better player than Lucic is, though. It's 1 fewer year plus Eriksson being an actual 3rd line player, compared to whatever the hell Lucic is.
 

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So Loui played 2 more games and gained 9 more point, but other than that, not much of a difference.
Have you watched Loui at all this season? He actually gives a damn ingame. Skates hard, forechecks like the wind and pots the occasional goal. It's not all about the points as Strangelove pointed out. What good does Lucic do? Honest question. He rarely intimidates, can't score, doesn't forecheck, can't skate worth a damn. He's a fridge on skates out there. Useless.
 

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Lucic for Eriksson makes sense, but the cost is more than a 2nd. Not only is Lucic's contract for an additional year, but the Oilers expect to receive a better player for each of the next three years.

Eriksson for Lucic (NMC not honoured), 2019 3rd (NYI), and 2020 1st (EDM). 1st is top 10 protected, in which case it becomes becomes 2021 1st (EDM).

Lucic will not agree to any trade where the team he's going to will not honor the NMC. There is now way he will agree to go somewhere and then be sent to the minors to ride a bus.
 

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There are worse contracts, quite a few. Weber and Carey Price come to mind.
Weber and Carey Price are still both very useful NHL players. Lucic is not. And Weber's contract is only really bad because of the recapture penalty, which will hit Nashville -- not Montreal or any other team he may eventually play for.
 
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HAHAHAHAHA

Good luck convincing Aqualini or any owner apart from the leafs that a 2nd rounder is worth $6,000,000

Except Lucic is not owed 6 million a season . Once his bonus is paid he is owed 14 million over 4 season .So going by an extra year like you did that would make it 4 million but I believe they will be owed almost the same 13 million over 3 years vs 16 million over 4 season
 
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I think you have that backwards. If you waive to be traded, the acquiring club has the option to reinstate. Since it was waived.
A contract traded before protection kicks in is taken on as is. Since no clauses were waived.


You are wrong . Like he said a NMC or a NTC only disappears if 1) it has kicked in yet 2) The player agrees to it . Lucic can waive for the Canuck's and he would still have to be protected in the expansion draft unless he agreed to waive it again or agree before the trade that the NMC/NTC is gone
 

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Except Lucic is not owed 6 million a season . Once his bonus is paid he is owed 14 million over 4 season .So going by an extra year like you did that would make it 3.5 million but I believe they will be owed almost the same 13 million over 3 years vs 14 million over 4 season

Lucic’s bonus for 2019/20 is just $3m, per cap friendly. The other 3 million is salary that will be paid throughout the season. So he’d still be owed 16 million after that bonus is paid. Eriksson’s bonus, which will be paid presumably at the same time, is actually bigger — 4 million — so the whole bonus-paid thing doesn’t actually work out in the Oilers’ favour. Eriksson, after his is paid, will be owed just 9 million over 3 seasons.
 
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Theres no such thing as an "equally worse" contract to Lucics

Especially if you were the Oilers owner and are dealing with real money

24 million Lucic vs 18 million. Eriksson

Almost half of that 18 million is actually paid for already so really Katz would be looking at
24 million vs 10million

So you were saying something about " equally worse " ??

Might want to check your facts instead of posting something that is totally incorrect . Lucic will be owed 16 million as of July 1st. The dark 3 million would be paid on July1

2019-20NMC$6,000,000$6,000,000$0$3,000,000$3,000,000$6,000,000$6,000,000
2020-21NMC$6,000,000$6,000,000$0$3,000,000$1,000,000$4,000,000$4,000,000
2021-22Modified NTC, NMC$6,000,000$6,000,000$0$2,500,000$2,500,000$5,000,000$5,000,000
2022-23Modified NTC, NMC$6,000,000$6,000,000$0$3,000,000$1,000,000$4,000,000$4,000,000
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Weber and Carey Price are still both very useful NHL players. Lucic is not. And Weber's contract is only really bad because of the recapture penalty, which will hit Nashville -- not Montreal or any other team he may eventually play for.

Carey Price will be just as useless as Lucic before his contract is up...and that's 10.5M useless, not 6M. Same with Weber, same with a lot of other player on higher and longer contracts.
6M isn't the worse dollar amount - not sure why there's so much lip service about it. It's not like Lucic makes 10M
 

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Might want to check your facts instead of posting something that is totally incorrect . Lucic will be owed 14 million as of July 1st

Am I missing something here or looking at the wrong page...? Per capfriendly, on July 1st he'll get paid a $3 million bonus. For the remainder of the 2019/20 year he'll have $3 million in salary. Then he's got $4 million in total salary in 2020/21 (salary+bonus), $5 million in 21/22, and $4 million in 22/23. That adds up to $16 million after July 1st.

For Eriksson, he's getting a $4 million bonus July 1st. He's getting $1 million in salary for the 19/20 year. Then he's got $4 million total salary in each of 20/21 and 21/22. That adds up to $9 million after July 1st.

After July 1st, in a hypothetical Lucic / Eriksson swap, the total money owed to each player actually jumps to a $7 million difference...
 
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Thread is pointless anyways. Both players suck no one wants either. Just a pissing match over whose garbage is less stinky. Compliance buyouts and the expansion draft can't get here soon enough for these plugs to get off of either team.
 

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I thought he had it in Vancouver after he got arrested on Granville Street and when his church got graffitied after the cup win.

"I can't find a reason to defend that city anymore."
He walks it back in the interview. Obviously being hated in Edmonton has made him change his views
 

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Thread is pointless anyways. Both players suck no one wants either. Just a pissing match over whose garbage is less stinky. Compliance buyouts and the expansion draft can't get here soon enough for these plugs to get off of either team.
Will be funny if there aren't any free buyouts this go around .

I assume players won't lose more of their revenue % being at 50 but they have lost the last two negotiations so who knows.
 

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Eriksson is a much better player than Lucic is, though. It's 1 fewer year plus Eriksson being an actual 3rd line player, compared to whatever the hell Lucic is.

uh, no, he isn't.
Lucic is also 3 years younger.
I'd be willing to bet Lucic returns to 20+ goals before Eriksson does
 

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uh, no, he isn't.
Lucic is also 3 years younger.
I'd be willing to bet Lucic returns to 20+ goals before Eriksson does

Then why are your fans so desperate to dump him? Real question, I'm not trying to be crappy here.

We're not shopping Eriksson, but if he desired by another team....meh. Toodle-oo.

Every other Oilers thread is built around dumping Lucic and a marginal piece for nothing.

Subjective, but if Lucic is the better player, would you trade him straight up for Eriksson? Because we would not
 

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Really the 2nd rounder is the most valuable asset in the deal. As in, the only asset with actual value.

Totally true.

Here's how I see it though: It's Spring and I've been doing some cleaning. Would I trade all of the slash and garbage I've accumulated of late for a bigger pile of slash and garbage plus a bucket of fried chicken? I like fried chicken, but nah. I'd rather just have a clean house sooner.
 

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Then why are your fans so desperate to dump him? Real question, I'm not trying to be crappy here.

We're not shopping Eriksson, but if he desired by another team....meh. Toodle-oo.

Every other Oilers thread is built around dumping Lucic and a marginal piece for nothing.

Subjective, but if Lucic is the better player, would you trade him straight up for Eriksson? Because we would not
Don’t see either player ever scoring 20 again.

Being able to get out of Loui contract earlier is a benefit. As well as no nmc.
 
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If I were running the Oilers (I’m not), I wouldn’t add one red cent to Lucic to get Eriksson. They both suck out loud, and Eriksson is older.

They’re equally likely to be terrible for either team. One year isn’t a huge difference.

Straight up, sure, why not? If you have to add anything, it makes a lot less sense.
 

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