Sportsnet: "It's something that can potentially happen in the future " Milan Lucic on playing for Canucks

[Paralyzer]

LOL Lucic AND a 2nd for an equally worse contract? Maybe Eriksson + 6th for Lucic + 4th, but if you think the value is a 2nd or higher, you are high on the koolaid.

 

[Spirit of 67]

If you are traded before its kicked in the team you are traded to does not have to honour it.


You are technically right that traded with one the club has the option to reinstate but most people with nmc just don't agree to be traded unless the club they are going to agrees to honour the nmc effectively keeping it.

Lucic might not care tho if he has any self awareness he should know his contract is already super hard to move without needing a nmc.

Even still, with it being Seattle he may waive for the edraft. Should it come to it.

 

[Seanaconda]

Not true exactly. His has a nmc for the duration of his contract.

When players with movement protection get traded those clauses do not automatically transfer.

But the players who waive them they can always ask the new team to sign a waiver to accept the current movement protection otherwise they won’t waive to go to that new team.

Lucic would be insane to waive his nmc. It assured him of remaining in the nhl rather than get redden in the A.

Idk would he really care that much riding a bus around ? Assuming the nucks would even want him on their ahl team it's not like he's a prospect and if he decided to pout you probably don't want him riding around with your prospects , they might just let him sit at home if they decided to waive him.

 

[Seanaconda]

Even still, with it being Seattle he may waive for the edraft. Should it come to it.

Can't see why he wouldn't . Not likely to be picked plus it's a nice city and really close to Vancouver anyways

 

[DownGoesMcDavid]

LOL Lucic AND a 2nd for an equally worse contract? Maybe Eriksson + 6th for Lucic + 4th, but if you think the value is a 2nd or higher, you are high on the koolaid.

Theres no such thing as an "equally worse" contract to Lucics

Especially if you were the Oilers owner and are dealing with real money

24 million Lucic vs 18 million. Eriksson

Almost half of that 18 million is actually paid for already so really Katz would be looking at
24 million vs 10million

So you were saying something about " equally worse " ??

 

[cheswick]

Not true exactly. His has a nmc for the duration of his contract.

When players with movement protection get traded those clauses do not automatically transfer.

But the players who waive them they can always ask the new team to sign a waiver to accept the current movement protection otherwise they won’t waive to go to that new team.

Lucic would be insane to waive his nmc. It assured him of remaining in the nhl rather than get redden in the A.

Redden was in the AHL in a previous CBA when cap hits didn't count. Lucic in the A is still gonna cost $5mm in cap hit. You'd be better off buying him out.

 

[Baksfamous112]

No team is going to trade for Lucic and expect him to be anything more than a 4th liner at best. Which means he has arguably the worst contract in the NHL

I don’t think that is true. When Lucic signed his contract with Edmonton, he forgot what made him such a good player. He never was fast, but he used to play with grit, be aggressive in the corners and play around the net.

As soon as this guy landed in Edmonton, he changed his game to a more finesse, perimeter game. I’m not sure if he’s just tired of the grind and physical play or simply lost his way, but if he get it back (form a fresh start) he could be back to its 40-50 points, aggressive plays from before.

 

[mouz135]

LOL Lucic AND a 2nd for an equally worse contract? Maybe Eriksson + 6th for Lucic + 4th, but if you think the value is a 2nd or higher, you are high on the koolaid.

 

[DownGoesMcDavid]

I don’t think that is true. When Lucic signed his contract with Edmonton, he forgot what made him such a good player. He never was fast, but he used to play with grit, be aggressive in the corners and play around the net.

As soon as this guy landed in Edmonton, he changed his game to a more finesse, perimeter game. I’m not sure if he’s just tired of the grind and physical play or simply lost his way, but if he get it back (form a fresh start) he could be back to its 40-50 points, aggressive plays from before.

This is far from reality.

Lucic has lost a step to what was an already slow skating style. He simply cant keep up with any top 6.

What's worse is he cant even forecheck anymore because he just cant get to those dump ins before the Dmen move the puck out.

The game has completely changed. It's all about skating. Smallish guys are able to thrive and survive in the league.....on the opposite side of that, big slow skating guys are becoming extinct aka Lucic

 

[Joey Moss]

Lucic for Eriksson makes sense, but the cost is more than a 2nd. Not only is Lucic's contract for an additional year, but the Oilers expect to receive a better player for each of the next three years.

Eriksson for Lucic (NMC not honoured), 2019 3rd (NYI), and 2020 1st (EDM). 1st is top 10 protected, in which case it becomes becomes 2021 1st (EDM).

Give me a break.

 

[DownGoesMcDavid]

Theres no such thing as an "equally worse" contract to Lucics

Especially if you were the Oilers owner and are dealing with real money

24 million Lucic vs 18 million. Eriksson

Almost half of that 18 million is actually paid for already so really Katz would be looking at
24 million vs 10million

So you were saying something about " equally worse " ??

Can just picture that convo now

Benning : how do you feel about trading for and spending an extra 14 million dollars but getting a 2nd rnd pick and a player.

Aquallini : sign me up !! Who we getting ? Subban ? Nylander? Tyler Johnson ?

Benning: Lucic

 

[Legion34]

If he were to waive for van. Would that mean his NMC now could be gone forever?

 

[DownGoesMcDavid]

If he were to waive for van. Would that mean his NMC now could be gone forever?

No not unless Van makes that a stipulation moving forward before signing off on the trade and Lucic agrees.

 

[Paralyzer]

Theres no such thing as an "equally worse" contract to Lucics

Especially if you were the Oilers owner and are dealing with real money

24 million Lucic vs 18 million. Eriksson

Almost half of that 18 million is actually paid for already so really Katz would be looking at
24 million vs 10million

So you were saying something about " equally worse " ??

They both have produced the same. Their contracts are about the same. Eriksson is older than Lucic. Definitely Equally Worse.

 

[Paralyzer]

 

[DownGoesMcDavid]

They both have produced the same. Their contracts are about the same. Eriksson is older than Lucic. Definitely Equally Worse.

You just ignored the 14 million dollar difference and 1 yr extra longer of Oilers having to have a spot for Lucic and waiting valuable depth for McDavid and Drai??

 

[Hattrick Kane]

The only way this happens is if every team is gifted compliance buyouts in two years. But even then, will Lucic belong in the NHL at that point?

 

[Paralyzer]

You just ignored the 14 million dollar difference and 1 yr extra longer of Oilers having to have a spot for Lucic and waiting valuable depth for McDavid and Drai??

You think Katz cares about that? I bet you that all the 'made up' jobs Katz made for every OBC person in office is making about that much. If we got Sutter instead of Eriksson, sure. Here's a 2nd round pick. I'll even throw in a prospect. But for Eriksson? hell no.

 

[yababy]

Theres no such thing as an "equally worse" contract to Lucics

Especially if you were the Oilers owner and are dealing with real money

24 million Lucic vs 18 million. Eriksson

Almost half of that 18 million is actually paid for already so really Katz would be looking at
24 million vs 10million

So you were saying something about " equally worse " ??

There are worse contracts, quite a few. Weber and Carey Price come to mind.

 

[Rebels57]

It's obviously gotta be a deal around Lucic and Eriksson with Edmonton adding a valuable asset or two.

 

[Kaners Bald Spot]

It's obviously gotta be a deal around Lucic and Eriksson with Edmonton adding a valuable asset or two.

Loui Eriksson for Lucic and Puljujarvi

 

[Rebels57]

Loui Eriksson for Lucic and Puljujarvi

Makes sense to me, but Edmonton might still value Poolparty more than that.

 

[Skinnyjimmy08]

Id easily swap out Loui for Lucic.. Even if the plus added to Lucic was very minimal.

Loui has been awful for the canucks and he turns 34 soon. At least Lucic is still 30 years old(turns 31 soon) so he is a few years younger.

The only reason i expect a slight add to Lucic is the fact he has an extra year longer on his deal. But if these guys were same age with same length of deal, i prefer Lucic anyday of the week.

Loui doesnt accomplish anything on the ice. There are many games ill watch and not even notice him ever. At least Lucic plays physical and can put fear into opposition and chips in here and there. He atleast accomplishes stuff on the ice

 

[Superlative Soup]

Id easily swap out Loui for Lucic.. Even if the plus added to Lucic was very minimal.

Loui has been awful for the canucks and he turns 34 soon. At least Lucic is still 30 years old(turns 31 soon) so he is a few years younger.

The only reason i expect a slight add to Lucic is the fact he has an extra year longer on his deal. But if these guys were same age with same length of deal, i prefer Lucic anyday of the week.

Loui doesnt accomplish anything on the ice. There are many games ill watch and not even notice him ever. At least Lucic plays physical and can put fear into opposition and chips in here and there. He atleast accomplishes stuff on the ice

Who cares that he's 30, he skates like he's 50.

 

[Skinnyjimmy08]

Who cares that he's 30, he skates like he's 50.

Im just saying that if i HAD to take one or the other at 6 mill cap, it would be Lucic in a heart beat.

And Im not a fan of either