Post-Game Talk: ITS OVER- Did we make a huge mistake on Pierre-Luc Dubois Thread?

“Would you rather that the Habs trade for Dubois or instead wait and try to sign him when he becomes


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The offer sheet scenario is unrealistic. PLD holds all the cards and will end up where he wants to play as any team would need him extended and he would only sign such an extension if the team is one he wants to play for. Pretty simple. Welcome to being rich and an upcoming FA. If he wants Montreal, it will be Montreal. End of story.
 
Lots of players go into their final year without a contract for the next season, its not uncommon,

And he wouldn't be "sitting out" he would be playing hockey,

There are no reports of him saying he will not play this season,
Not yet..

veteran agent Pat Brisson has let Winnipeg know that it’s probably best to move on this summer rather than do a one-year deal with the restricted free agent and stretch this out further.
 
What exactly is our cap situation? We have to move someone out in order to fit a 8m cap hit?
Habs just have to move Price on LTIR and you can go 10% overcap in the off-season too. And if a trade is done, some salary would be moved back in the return as well.
 
He will not sign an offer sheet at all, period,

He won't risk staying in Winnipeg
An offersheet is better than the threat of sitting, not playing, and not getting paid like you suggested.

Jets will likely cave and take Montreal's shitty offer before that though
 
He will sign an offer sheet the moment it’s available Winnipeg isn’t allowed to trade him until next July if they match. The pinch point is July 1 no matte r what jets fans or the insider try and tell us
 
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whats with the Nashville rumours is Dubois into country music like Duchene was why would he pick the Preds?

LA made alot of sense for someone like PLD but i dont see Nashville at all
Honestly, I'd much prefer to live in Nashville than L.A. at this point. But the preds feel like a Mickey Mouse franchise with their country music and crowd chants and stuff.
 
Are you drunk? He will NOT sign an offer sheet for more than one year and take the chance that it is matched. He might risk a 1 year offer sheet and hope Winnipeg doesn't want to lose him for nothing.

Indeed! If Dubois sign-and-trade talks fall through, the likeliest scenario is that he accepts his QO to make sure he (finally!) acquires UFA-status next summer. In that case, the Jets would then have a last window to obtain assets (late 1st + A prospect) in return for his services at TDL 2024.

As for the offer sheet nuclear option, Dubois won’t consider anything beyond one year for sure; the risk of the Jets matching and him being stuck long term in Winnipeg is otherwise too great.

So if the Habs send a 6.4M 1-year offer sheet, where would each interested Party stand?

I see no reason not to sign from Dubois’ POV; it’s slightest better than his 6M QO; it takes him away from Winnipeg sooner and he furthermore gains instant leverage in contract renewals with Montreal.

Does Winnipeg match? In other words, how does the Habs’ unprotected 2024 1st round pick compare with the assets that could otherwise be fetched by renting Dubois at TDL 2024?

If the Jets management thinks the Habs are lottery-pick bound next year, it’s a strong incentive not to match, especially since matching means relinquishing all possibility of trading Dubois at next TDL. For that very same reason, even if the Jets think the Habs could be a bubble playoffs team and that their 1st could be in the #17+ range, they could nevertheless consider not matching because #17+ could still be better than relinquishing a contender’s late first + prospect.

As for the Habs however, should they send the offer to begin with?

As mentioned above, such OS would theoretically give much bargaining power to UFA-to-be Dubois. The latter’s interest to play in Montreal seems genuine, but there’s always a risk that contract talks derail. At the other side of the spectrum, a quick resolution with mutually beneficial terms (lower AAV, higher bonuses, etc.) as soon as next January could raise suspicions of rules circumvention. Having no reason not to assume Dubois’ good faith regarding his interest to play in Montreal, I think the risk of contract complications is quite manageable in this case. And that’s why Montreal is the only team that could reasonably consider an offer sheet in Dubois’ specific situation.

Regarding the risk entailed by sending an unprotected 2024 1st to Winnipeg, it gets much trickier, especially if one (like myself) thinks the Habs will be picking in the second tier - in the #11-21 range; right in-between the « lottery treshold » at #16…
 
whats with the Nashville rumours is Dubois into country music like Duchene was why would he pick the Preds?

LA made alot of sense for someone like PLD but i dont see Nashville at all
There are no rumours, just fan talk. You guys take shit and run with it, it's crazy.
 
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