Post-Game Talk: ITS OVER- Did we make a huge mistake on Pierre-Luc Dubois Thread?

[salbutera]

Friedman expects PLD will narrow destinations down 2-3 teams in the coming days (29:20 mark)

 

[Canadienna]

The ironic thing is he was probably pretty well liked in Montreal before this summer.

If he signs somewhere else, be ready for boo birds every time he plays in MTL

 

[WeThreeKings]

Jets desperately trying to negotiate through the media to get Montreal to pay more.

Kent Hughes laughs at these feeble attempts.

 

[sheed36]

If I was WPG I'd be so cheesed with all these crap returns lmao.

A combination of Harris, Dvorak, 31st OA, Anderson, Beck, etc is just SO underwhelming. Happy I'm not a Jets fan and hopefully Hugo can do some fleecing.

I just can't see Anderson moving in any PLD trade since he has a 8 team NTC and I'd imagine Winnipeg is very likely on it.

 

[Team_Spirit]

Friedman expects PLD will narrow destinations down 2-3 teams in the coming days (29:20 mark)

Waiting for the St Jean to announce the deal.

Kent master chess player. Putting the populace in his back pocket.

 

[Beendair Donedat]

I’m sticking with my original call - we are acquiring PLD and drafting Reinbacher with our first round pick.

I don’t know how the stickhandling will go to make those things reality but it’s my prediction, especially if Smith isn’t available when we go to pick.

 

[morhilane]

They can up his value and trade him for a 1st at the deadline?

He's probably gone this summer, the Habs have to trade at least one LD since they have 5 signed along 4 RDs, ideal they bring that down to 7 (via trade or waivers).

 

[Vachon23]

PLD is part of the rebuild. We can offer lotto tickets for a real thing

Dreger must've read my 3 way proposal with Detroit and Winnipeg

To Habs: 9th overall + PLD
To WPG: 5th overall + Dvorak
To DET: 18th overall + Harris + whatever else it takes from WPG or MTL to make up the difference

That’s horrible for Detroit

 

[Kobe Armstrong]

That’s horrible for Detroit

How can you say that without knowing what the + is

 

[Vachon23]

How can you say that without knowing what the + is

I mean I don’t even know what the + could for Detroit to makes sense

 

[EveryDay]

I mean I don’t even know what the + could for Detroit to makes sense

Beck ?

 

[Vachon23]

Beck ?

I wouldn’t do it if I’m Detroit

They need high end player, they already a lot of prospects. And not sure they want to help a direct rival getting a really good player

 

[Kobe Armstrong]

I mean I don’t even know what the + could for Detroit to makes sense

Not very creative, I can think of a dozen ways to make up the difference between 9 and 18 + Harris, especially when Detroit already has pick 17 and would be going back to back

 

[Vachon23]

Not very creative, I can think of a dozen ways to make up the difference between 9 and 18 + Harris, especially when Detroit already has pick 17 and would be going back to back

And that Detroit would want to do it ?? It’s not only getting value but the other team need to have an interest doing it and Detroit have 0 reason to make that.

 

[Runner77]

Friedman expects PLD will narrow destinations down 2-3 teams in the coming days (29:20 mark)

Yeah, he’ll narrow down destinations that never existed and that were invented by his agent faced with PLD overwhelmingly and cultishly engrossed with everything Montreal.

I’m sticking with my original call - we are acquiring PLD and drafting Reinbacher with our first round pick.

I don’t know how the stickhandling will go to make those things reality but it’s my prediction, especially if Smith isn’t available when we go to pick.

Is that scenario partly premised on making it easier for the Habs to include Barron in a Dubois trade?

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

Yeah, he’ll narrow down destinations that never existed and that were invented by his agent faced with PLD overwhelmingly and cultishly engrossed with everything Montreal.


Is that scenario partly premised on making it easier for the Habs to include Barron in a Dubois trade?

The Montreal Everywhere Dubois Welcome Tour

 

[morhilane]

Yeah, he’ll narrow down destinations that never existed and that were invented by his agent faced with PLD overwhelmingly and cultishly engrossed with everything Montreal.

It was presented as a list of possible destinations for trade/contractual talks. Those teams could balk at the demands or were not interested to acquire him is possible, but that Dubois can decide after submitting said list that he finally doesn't want to go there is weird.

 

[Beendair Donedat]

Yeah, he’ll narrow down destinations that never existed and that were invented by his agent faced with PLD overwhelmingly and cultishly engrossed with everything Montreal.


Is that scenario partly premised on making it easier for the Habs to include Barron in a Dubois trade?

Absolutely.

While Barron has way more offensive flair to his game and is a great prospect in his own right, I see Reinbacher as a much more well rounded overall defenseman. A guy that will ideally become similar to a McDonough or Ekholm. Someone who can matchup well with anyone and play a smart, simple, puck moving and physical game defensively while still contributing offensively. He brings a more complete game, and should be with the club after a full year in the AHL (barring injuries of course).

 

[Runner77]

It was presented as a list of possible destinations for trade/contractual talks. Those teams could balk at the demands or were not interested to acquire him is possible, but that Dubois can decide after submitting said list that he finally doesn't want to go there is weird.

My comment was tongue in cheek but it’s all too obvious where PLD stands.

 

[HabzSauce]

I just can't see Anderson moving in any PLD trade since he has a 8 team NTC and I'd imagine Winnipeg is very likely on it.

Neither can I. I just threw him in there for shits.

 

[sampollock]

Jets desperately trying to negotiate through the media to get Montreal to pay more.

Kent Hughes laughs at these feeble attempts.

kent has ice for blood, love it
no screwing him

 

[Rapala]

Dreger must've read my 3 way proposal with Detroit and Winnipeg

To Habs: 9th overall + PLD
To WPG: 5th overall + Dvorak
To DET: 18th overall + Harris + whatever else it takes from WPG or MTL to make up the difference

Dreger doesn't have us going sideways yet?

 

[Rapala]

Dubois is being devalued by some and compared to Drouin and also devalued like Danault. He's a darn good top 2C like Suzuki but they bring different elements. Of course you want salary cap advantages and to get Dubois at $7M - $8M range but that's not his market value. If that doesn't happen, I am fine with it but lets not pretend we are easily going to find a physical center like him at a later date. That's flawed

What players are "worth" is a also a flawed conversation. The closer they get to UFA, it switches to market value mostly. If he was age 28+, I'd pass. But he is what next year? Age 25? That's a great piece to add if it fits our salary cap structure.

Reports now indicate we don't want to budge on assets and aren't keen on his salary demands. In this market Dubois is only worth what Kent Hughes will pay him. That is his value nothing more nothing less. So we don't like either side of the puzzle. Could others possibly be wondering why if he is so hell bent on coming here and popping up all over the place on social media. I had the same perspective on Caufield and it is so logical and Darren Dreger(ish) I wasn't wrong there either. Now maybe Dubois gets more elsewhere but at that point He won't be a Hab and I won't give a damn.

 

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

I will tell you a secret everyone
When a player says he's looking at multiple teams in the league
means

he'S looking at 2 teams max.

 

[le_sean]

Not entirely sure I get why the Kings are after him. They already have Kopitar, Danault, Byfield and Vilardi. They also don’t really have the cap space unless they offer Iafallo or Arvidsson. Not sure it’s the smartest of moves to get PLD.