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Post-Game Talk: ITS OVER- Did we make a huge mistake on Pierre-Luc Dubois Thread?

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“Would you rather that the Habs trade for Dubois or instead wait and try to sign him when he becomes

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Clownzymandias said:
Lol, Quebecor's wetdream

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My family is half French and I'm not even from Quebec. This is not about what language he speaks. This is about a legit top 2C like Suzuki who we can acquire.
 
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WeThreeKings said:
Seems pretty obvious now that Montreal isn't paying the contract and the acquisition cost.

Kent Hughes definitely throwing it back at PLD and his agent. If you want to come here, you're making concessions.. if you don't, then see ya.
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Honestly, it's how I personally feel about it too. My whole interest in PLD was his clearly wanting to come here. Now that it involves a bidding war trade-wise/pretty crazy salary demands, my appetite for it is way less.

Someone will pay a lot to acquire Dubois. Someone will sign him to a pretty crazy 8 year contract. I don't think I want that team to be the Habs.
 
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Rapala said:
Yeah because top flight Agents won't stoop that low. It's just a coincidence that he's popping up all over the place on social media :help:
Someone is spoon feeding the media who might that be.
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If Dubois wasn't really interested in the habs and was seeking the most money possible, he wouldn't have made it known he's only interested in a couple of teams, and instead would have all the teams bidding for his service.

What does social media have to do with anything? Do you really believe Caufield and Subban are posting pictures with Dubois to get him more money on his next contract, and do you really think that has any effect on what Hughes does?
 
WeThreeKings said:
Seems pretty obvious now that Montreal isn't paying the contract and the acquisition cost.

Kent Hughes definitely throwing it back at PLD and his agent. If you want to come here, you're making concessions.. if you don't, then see ya.
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Bang on!!!
Take all the pics you want, hanging with Cole, pretty obvious Mr Brisson is playing games at this point!!! LOL
 
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Saundies said:
Honestly, it's how I personally feel about it too. My whole interest in PLD was his clearly wanting to come here. Now that it involves a bidding war trade-wise/pretty crazy salary demands, my appetite for it is way less.

Someone will pay a lot to acquire Dubois. Someone will sign him to a pretty crazy 8 year contract. I don't think I want that team to be the Habs.
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which leads me to think, as I had said before
other teams would love to have him, and PLD saying the "habs are It" could be a ploy to get a bigger money deal elsewhere.
 
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salbutera said:
Don’t you get it, John Tavares owed the Leafs a special favor…hometown discount of $11M, happens all the time, players owing special favors for “their team”.

It’s the players friggin livelihood & business, if I was a parent I’d bitch slap my kid for not maximizing earnings - never know when the career ending injury occurs or career suddenly ends.

Owe a favor!! Pffff


I’m sure Kent Hughes used teams as leverage many a time over the course of his agent career, and knows the tell tale sign
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It was reported that Tavares did leave money on the table to sign with Toronto:

 
WeThreeKings said:
Seems pretty obvious now that Montreal isn't paying the contract and the acquisition cost.

Kent Hughes definitely throwing it back at PLD and his agent. If you want to come here, you're making concessions.. if you don't, then see ya.
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How is it obvious?
 
WeThreeKings said:
Seems pretty obvious now that Montreal isn't paying the contract and the acquisition cost.

Kent Hughes definitely throwing it back at PLD and his agent. If you want to come here, you're making concessions.. if you don't, then see ya.
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I don’t think this is the case at all. This was always going to be a trade that happens on draft day IMO.

I agree that Hughes will stand firm about not wanting to pay his demand of 9M, but we will see on deadline day where he goes. Until then, too early to say.
 
The Habs might not have available the young nhl piece that the Jets want for Dubois, but if that's the case, they could have a 3rd team involved and do something similar to the Dach trade.

The Hawks wanted a top ~10 pick for Dach but the Habs didn't have one available, so they traded Romanov to the Islanders for the pick and then traded that pick to the Hawks.
 
Richiebottles said:
How is it obvious?
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How isn't it?

Marek, Friedman, Engels, Basu.. are all reporting the same thing. They aren't willing to pay him that much more than Suzuki and they aren't trading Dach or their prized prospects, LA can offer Vilardi so the Habs are likely not going to up their offer in acquisition cost and then turn around and pay him Larkin money.
 
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WeThreeKings said:
How isn't it?

Marek, Friedman, Engels, Basu.. are all reporting the same thing. They aren't willing to pay him that much more than Suzuki and they aren't trading Dach or their prized prospects, LA can offer Vilardi so the Habs are likely not going to up their offer in acquisition cost and then turn around and pay him Larkin money.
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But LA Fans dont think they will offer up Vilardi or Byfield, it's a similar thing to Dach why trade Vilardi when he Basically provided the same thing as Dubois did last year

Dach - 58GP - 14g - 24a - 38p - Age 22
Vilardi - 63GP - 23g - 18a - 41p - Age 23
Dubois 73 gp - 27g - 36A - 63p - Age 24

You don't trade Vilardi or Dach for Dubois, it's like turning 2 Nickels into a dime, the goal is to keep him and get Dubois.
 
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WeThreeKings said:
How isn't it?

Marek, Friedman, Engels, Basu.. are all reporting the same thing. They aren't willing to pay him that much more than Suzuki and they aren't trading Dach or their prized prospects, LA can offer Vilardi so the Habs are likely not going to up their offer in acquisition cost and then turn around and pay him Larkin money.
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They didn’t say that at all.

The Basu article was pure opinion. Marek was basically saying that MTL needed to make a decision on if they wanted him or not.

And Engels was hearing from multiple sources that MTL is still his preferred destination.

Lots of conflicting info out there right now.
 
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Colezuki said:
You mean the guys who stand in front of the bell center and ask players there opinions on nonsense?
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lol their opinion / gossip is as good as any during this circus!
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Richiebottles said:
They didn’t say that at all.

The Basu article was pure opinion. Marek was basically saying that MTL needed to make a decision on if they wanted him or not.

And Engels was hearing from multiple sources that MTL is still his preferred destination.

Lots of conflicting info out there right now.
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as engels mentioned i this it comes down to what they do with the 5th and if they can trade up. They may not have to if Michkov goes earlier
 
austin316 said:
I don’t think this is the case at all. This was always going to be a trade that happens on draft day IMO.

I agree that Hughes will stand firm about not wanting to pay his demand of 9M, but we will see on deadline day where he goes. Until then, too early to say.
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I know a lot of people think this will somehow materialize on draft day, but if Hughes and Cheveldayoff/Brisson don’t get on the same page going into the draft, it’s not really going to matter. Winnipeg’s approach with this sign and trade makes things tough for not only us, but anybody interested. If Winnipeg really doesn’t want to deal with the headache of arbitration with a player whose already publicly said he has no intention of playing with them even on a one year, they’re going to have to come down in price eventually.
 
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nhlfan9191 said:
I know a lot of people think this will somehow materialize on draft day, but if Hughes and Cheveldayoff/Brisson don’t get on the same page going into the draft, it’s not really going to matter. Winnipeg’s approach with this sign and trade makes things tough for not only us, but anybody interested. If Winnipeg really doesn’t want to deal with the headache of arbitration with a player whose already publicly said he has no intention of playing with them even on a one year, they’re going to have to come down in price eventually.
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Draft day..............lots can go on.
Last year, they had a deal agreed on, and Chevy got greedy, that day, and changed the deal, and Hughes told him to FO......................used his plan B and got Dach.
LOL at Chevy. Karma is a bitch....looks good on Chevy's Day Off...............I hope some GM school's him badly !!
Dubois is not a need, but a very nice addition, if the price is right!!
 
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Kudo Shinichi said:
The Habs might not have available the young nhl piece that the Jets want for Dubois, but if that's the case, they could have a 3rd team involved and do something similar to the Dach trade.

The Hawks wanted a top ~10 pick for Dach but the Habs didn't have one available, so they traded Romanov to the Islanders for the pick and then traded that pick to the Hawks.
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good point, and I think some variation of this happens on the draft floor IF habs can't move up and grab a C.
 
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