Post-Game Talk: ITS OVER- Did we make a huge mistake on Pierre-Luc Dubois Thread?

[Runner77]

You decided that?

ChatGPT asked Alexa, who canvassed his smart fridge.

 

[Habricot]

Probably, even if Brendan is from Western Canada. I'm just humouring the idea of Slaf for Dubois by adding a SMALL bémole. LOL

Trading Slaf would be completely Pejorative Slured!

 

[Habs Halifax]

Yeah the top 6 looks good for the future especially if PLD comes over. If you include him, the Habs are set on forward for the future. They might sign a vet centre short term until Beck develops (after Dvorak leaves). I also think they're better off getting rid of Anderson only because of his cap hit. 2024 FA is the big year to sign someone like Sorokin, etc. Then all the RFA's that come after in the next few years. Gotta make space. I'm hoping Habs can hir on one of their 1st or 2nd Rds to be that future 3rd line RW.

That's where we are as a fanbase. Finally not having to worry about the top 6 cause it's full and wondering what the future third line will look like. Feels good

Habs could focus on RD and Goalies in the coming drafts after those moves too.

 

[nhlfan9191]

Habs could focus on RD and Goalies in the coming drafts after those moves too.

Or we can just sit tight with the limited RHD and G we have and not buy into the hype that you are.

 

[HuGo Sham]

Dubois is all but a Hab as we chat
Thank me later

Cmon man, spill the beans. was it you taking all his instagram shots?

 

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

So Habs want a center if they trade for Dubois? Are they trading a center back if it happens?

Also if they cant draft the center thet have 3 wingers , Michkov , Benson and Leonard

So let's hope we don't land Dubois so we can draft Michkov

 

[sampollock]

Cmon man, spill the beans. was it you taking all his instagram shots?

he has a educated guess

 

[The Great Weal]

They can make it work for one year knowing Kopitar is coming off the books or going to be getting a significant pay cut the following year.

How would that work? Jets sign PLD to a 1 year deal, retain 50% and trade him, then the Kings extend him so his high cap hit counts next year? Doubt you're allowed to do that. Again, Kings should focus on getting Hellebyuck.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Dubois is all but a Hab as we chat
Thank me later

I believe this poster more than IB, Engels, or any Habs media member.

I don't really believe this poster.

 

[HuGo Sham]

Agreed. The context keeps coming over and over again. If Brisson was in talks with other teams, there is no way he would advise to hang around with Caufield and take pictures that end up on social media. Not after all the Montreal connections over the last year.



Just like they come to like Dach and the "we should have drafted Nazar" comments have faded away.

this actually really makes me laugh - and I posted this on main board. Obviously it could be nothing, but I've never seen PLD this visible on social media - maybe i'm wrong - but his photos over the last 5 days crack me up. He's like waldo - he's 30 miles away in boisbriand at a Haitian sports fundraiser with instagram posts; he's at the GP; he's on a boat with caufield and friends; he's wasted with his arm around caufield at a downtown eatery scarfing martinis with subban there too

 

[Habs Halifax]

Or we can just sit tight with the limited RHD and G we have and not buy into the hype that you are.

You act like I'm the only one who would like adding Michkov and Dubois. We have done this before and you always steer back to poster focus with your "Hype that you are". At this stage, you will never learn.

It's not hype. It's an idea. You don't have to like it but spare me with your poster focus. Many other Habs fans would welcome the idea of trading for Dubois and drafting Michkov. Stop trying to pretend this is my idea only. Disingenuous

 

[nhlfan9191]

You act like I'm the only one who would like adding Michkov and Dubois. We have done this before and you always steer back to poster focus with your "Hype that you are". At this stage, you will never learn.

It's not hype. It's an idea. You don't have to like it but spare me with your poster focus. Many other Habs fans would welcome the idea of trading for Dubois and drafting Michkov. Stop trying to pretend this is my idea only. Disingenuous

No sweetheart, you fall for the hype. I’m not interested in hype or overpaying for it. You clearly haven’t learnt a single thing from our debate 6 years ago. Nobody is comparing Drouin and PLD as players, they’re comparing the flags that will make them immune to get crushed by our franchise. And PLD has every single one. Cut the French crap. It means nothing. It’s causing our organization more problem then it is helping. Putting it lightly.

 

[Habs Halifax]

this actually really cracks me up - and I posted this on main board. Obviously it could be nothing, but I've never seen PLD this visible on social media - maybe i'm wrong - but his photos over the last 5 days crack me up. He's like waldo - he's 30 miles away in boisbriand at a Haitian sports fundraiser with instagram posts; he's at the GP; he's on a boat with caufield and friends; he's wasted with his arm around caufield at a downtown eatery scarfing martinis with suburban there

It is comical and it comes after a whole year of Montreal connections. I have to believe this is not Caufield/Dubois trolling us. How have they become friends? Or is Caufield just trying to dig into the situation more as a undercover agent or exposed agent.

Caufield is like... "Hey Dubois, I have some friends from the US coming to Montreal (you played against them). Do you want to join us and plaster pictures all over social media while your agent negotiates a sign/trade for you and the Habs are one of them" That should be fun right?

 

[HABitual Fan]

Sorry but the Zegras comparison is a reach. He's has not been in trade rumors for over a year now and near UFA and also connected to Montreal with his agent actually saying he would like to play for the Habs. Nice try though.

Saying no to Dubois now is like saying no to Poehling+ for ROR back a few years ago. You likely think it's easy to find centers like Dubois and all our futures hit. Rebuilds are strictly drafting . Don't worry, Dubois will sign for free and if not, it will be easy to find a center like him later. Sure

Pretty sure Gorton/Hughes agree with me and are talking with the Jets. Are you going to turn on them if they trade for him?

By the time Montreal needs a player like Dubois, he won't be that player anymore. Instead you'll be stuck with someone putting up Dvorak numbers for 4 years. If at his peak he put up 63 points what will he produce at 29+ on the downside of his career? Anyone thinking he is the player that will go against the reality, and get better after 25 is fooling themselves. Great players remained effective, ones like Dubois become cap dumps.

 

[Habs Halifax]

No sweetheart, you fall for the hype. I’m not interested in hype or overpaying for it. You clearly haven’t learnt a single thing from our debate 6 years ago. Nobody is comparing Drouin and PLD as players, they’re ckmparing the flags that will make them immune to get crushed by our franchise. And PLD has every single one. Cut the French crap. It means nothing. It’s causing our organization more problem then it is helping. Putting it lightly.

Sweetheart? I stopped reading at that point. I see that your past character in a disagreement is coming back. More belittle attempts. I'll give you one last chance before ignore mode.

By the time Montreal needs a player like Dubois, he won't be that player anymore. Instead you'll be stuck with someone putting up Dvorak numbers for 4 years. If at his peak he put up 63 points what will he produce at 29+ on the downside of his career? Anyone thinking he is the player that will go against the reality, and get better after 25 is fooling themselves. Great players remained effective, ones like Dubois become cap dumps.

I don't agree. Dubois is less than one year older than Suzuki and 2.5 years older than Dach. Sorry, I don't think Dubois is the next Drouin.

 

[HABitual Fan]

Sweetheart? I stopped reading at that point. I see that your past character in a disagreement is coming back. More belittle attempts. I'll give you one last chance before ignore mode.



I don't agree. Dubois is less than one year older than Suzuki and 2.5 years older than Dach. Sorry, I don't think Dubois is the next Drouin.

The difference is they are on contracts that expire when they are 30, you can choose to walk away from. Dubois if 8 years will be 33. Here are some numbers posted by someone on the Leafs board

. Here is a list of the greatest goal scorers the last 40 yrs and when they had their best goal season at their respective age.

Ovechkin 65 goals 21 yrs old
Crosby 51 goals 22 yrs old
P.Kane 46 goals 26 yrs old
Stamkos 60 goals 21 yrs old
Malkin 50 goals 25 yrs old
C.Perry 50 goals 25 yrs old
Iginla 52 goals 24 yrs old
Bure 60 goals 22 yrs old
Brett hull 86 goals 26 yrs old
Jagr 62 goals 23 yrs old
gretzky 92 goals 20 yrs old
Lemieux 85 goals 22 yrs old
Sakic 51 goals 26 yrs old
Heatley 50 goals 25 yrs old

Notice a trend? When I argued that the peak is at 25 years old, some just don't want to believe to suit their agendas.

 

[Habs Halifax]

The difference is they are on contracts that expire when they are 30, you can choose to walk away from. Dubois if 8 years will be 33. Here are some numbers posted by someone on the Leafs board

. Here is a list of the greatest goal scorers the last 40 yrs and when they had their best goal season at their respective age.

Ovechkin 65 goals 21 yrs old
Crosby 51 goals 22 yrs old
P.Kane 46 goals 26 yrs old
Stamkos 60 goals 21 yrs old
Malkin 50 goals 25 yrs old
C.Perry 50 goals 25 yrs old
Iginla 52 goals 24 yrs old
Bure 60 goals 22 yrs old
Brett hull 86 goals 26 yrs old
Jagr 62 goals 23 yrs old
gretzky 92 goals 20 yrs old
Lemieux 85 goals 22 yrs old
Sakic 51 goals 26 yrs old
Heatley 50 goals 25 yrs old

Notice a trend? When I argued that the peak is at 25 years old, some just don't want to believe to suit their agendas.

When did Tampa and the Avs win cups? When most of their core was in the age 25-30 range.

You just listed random names and it holds no value because you have to spend more than 10 min's in research bud.

Post more recent examples in the salary cap era. Start there. Go look up the core age ranges for the last 10-15 cup winners.

 

[SlafySZN]

It is comical and it comes after a whole year of Montreal connections. I have to believe this is not Caufield/Dubois trolling us. How have they become friends? Or is Caufield just trying to dig into the situation more as a undercover agent or exposed agent.

Caufield is like... "Hey Dubois, I have some friends from the US coming to Montreal (you played against them). Do you want to join us and plaster pictures all over social media while your agent negotiates a sign/trade for you and the Habs are one of them" That should be fun right?

All those guys in the pictures are Brisson’s clients… you’re searching way too far.

You’re setting yourself up for disappointment.

 

[Wats]

Has there ever been a proven good player that has been rumoured to be traded here ever actually end up being traded here?

Maybe Drouin but I don't think he was ever proven.

 

[Runner77]

this actually really makes me laugh - and I posted this on main board. Obviously it could be nothing, but I've never seen PLD this visible on social media - maybe i'm wrong - but his photos over the last 5 days crack me up. He's like waldo - he's 30 miles away in boisbriand at a Haitian sports fundraiser with instagram posts; he's at the GP; he's on a boat with caufield and friends; he's wasted with his arm around caufield at a downtown eatery scarfing martinis with subban there too

The GP junket with Brisson and his clients, is understandable. But all these other events that PLD is appearing at and getting attention for, within such a short time span and when the draft is around the corner, sounds like something Brisson and the player concocted.

Regardless, doubt it makes a difference either way in terms what Hughes does.

 

[Habaneros]

ChatGPT asked Alexa, who canvassed his smart fridge.

The Smart Fridge was asked and seemed pretty cold on the idea of PLD in MTL in 2023

The GP junket with Brisson and his clients, is understandable. But all these other events that PLD is appearing at and getting attention for, within such a short time span and when the draft is around the corner, sounds like something Brisson and the player concocted.

Regardless, doubt it makes a difference either way in terms what Hughes does.

Watch , PLD will announce Habs 5TH OVERALL pick selection

 

[OnTheRun]

By the time Montreal needs a player like Dubois, he won't be that player anymore. Instead you'll be stuck with someone putting up Dvorak numbers for 4 years. If at his peak he put up 63 points what will he produce at 29+ on the downside of his career? Anyone thinking he is the player that will go against the reality, and get better after 25 is fooling themselves. Great players remained effective, ones like Dubois become cap dumps.

Right?
Next year we need to trade old man Nick and kick start the rebuild of the rebuild.

 

[nhlfan9191]

Sweetheart? I stopped reading at that point. I see that your past character in a disagreement is coming back. More belittle attempts. I'll give you one last chance before ignore mode.



I don't agree. Dubois is less than one year older than Suzuki and 2.5 years older than Dach. Sorry, I don't think Dubois is the next Drouin.

Putting me on ignore may be best because I can see the holes in yours arguments coming a mile away. That’s your choice if you can’t handle conversations you can’t win by muting.

 

[HABitual Fan]

Right?
Next year we need to trade old man Nick and kick start the rebuild of the rebuild.

Where did I say that? I said they also will be hitting their peak at 25, and hopefully their peak will be higher than Dubois, and that their being under contract until only age 30 is a plus. Dubois until 33 is a minus, Believe what you want, but the numbers don't lie, they are facts.

 

[sampollock]

According to information relayed by Marco Normandin and shared by Ken Wiebe, a well-informed journalist covering the Winnipeg Jets, the Los Angeles Kings could be willing to offer a very promising prospect like Quinton Byfield or Gabe Vilardi, as well as a solid defenseman in Sean Durzi , with the aim of acquiring Pierre-Luc Dubois.

wow! It's a huge proposition!

IN WINNIPEG:
- Quinton Byfield (2nd overall pick in 2020) OR Gabe Vilardi (41 points in 63 games this year)
- Sean Durzi (38 points in 72 games this season)
for
PLD