Harry Kakalovich
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Personally I would want to limit the term of any contract for PLD to 5 years.
Post-Game Talk: ITS OVER- Did we make a huge mistake on Pierre-Luc Dubois Thread?
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Again, on the AAV I'm not worried at this moment that it will be an issue. The issue is the assets to get PLD.
Now PLD can do whatever he chooses, and that's not a problem, it's his choice. But. If he really wants to come to the Habs, then he sticks to telling the Jets he will only extend in Montreal. I could see that price being Florida's pick, a 2nd, Beck and Ylonen. This is a bit better than the TDL value.
If PLD will sign with others, such as LA, then the price really goes up and I'm not sure we should be in it as at this point as I think our assets should really be available for a move up in the draft.
Now PLD can do whatever he chooses, and that's not a problem, it's his choice. But. If he really wants to come to the Habs, then he sticks to telling the Jets he will only extend in Montreal. I could see that price being Florida's pick, a 2nd, Beck and Ylonen. This is a bit better than the TDL value.
If PLD will sign with others, such as LA, then the price really goes up and I'm not sure we should be in it as at this point as I think our assets should really be available for a move up in the draft.
well one small note here, he does have a NMC, that does reduce the "AAV" usually
This is my thinking as well. The AAV won't really matter with the cap going up, so I would even be willing to pay above what an 8 year deal would be. My concern is paying him in years in which he may be good, and the team won't, and then being stuck with him when the team improves while he declines. No guarantee that he is anything more than a 63 point player, that is a 40 point player as he approaches age 30.
Wouldn’t that defeat the purpose of acquiring Dubois before the cap readjustment? Once that occurs, the Habs will have hard time locking up Dubois at a reasonable AAV since 9-10M will likely be the « the new 7-8M » by then. And to say nothing about the fact that a 5 years contract would likely require a higher AAV for Dubois to consider it anyways, so hardly any savings to project in that regard.
In my humble opinion, it would be optimal to seek a Dubois in the 7-8M AAV range for maximum term rather than take the risk that the latter hits UFA-status as 29, right in the middle of the emerging core’s contending window.
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Well the NHL have him listed at 6'4 so I don't know what to say.
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Agreed. Trying to save AAV in the cap for 5 years would be a mistake. Get him for 8 years and in the last 4 years (ish), it will be the contending years. That's when Suzuki/Caufield are in their age 25-30 age ranges.
My new trade offer where we keep both the Panthers 1st and Beck. Two young NHL ready D with a younger Mesar type prospect. Then let them pick one of the NHL contracts. No way any other team is trading for Dubois without sending back a contract. If the goal is not to do a full rebuild and bring in young players, this fits.
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one of Dvorak, Edmundson, or Armia
dinodebino
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Players-agent get together at a highly publicized international event, prolly on the agent’s tab. And there goes the rumooorz.
Nothing to see here.
Nothing to see here.
The Gr8 Dane
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That's smart , if he wants 8.5 give him 5 years.
I still wouldn't pay 8.5 though
Man 8.5 is alot of cap boys I know it's going up but we can't be paying 3 sub ppg players 8 mill , can't do it.
If Dubois was a ppg monster #1 center I'd be open to giving him 10 hell 11 i don't even care but he's just not that guy
I still wouldn't pay 8.5 though
Man 8.5 is alot of cap boys I know it's going up but we can't be paying 3 sub ppg players 8 mill , can't do it.
If Dubois was a ppg monster #1 center I'd be open to giving him 10 hell 11 i don't even care but he's just not that guy
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Bottom line, is this Chevaldayoff leaking info to media to create some artificial market or are teams really willing to cough up the asking price?
At the end of the day Trouba situation was just as long & drawn out, but ended up being Pionk + 20s pick - despite rumors of large packages coming Jets way
I don’t see this situation playing out any differently to be honest
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Hmmmmm, not so sure.
That would have been easy to just keep it down and not make waves and they all knew that a pic with Caufield in Montreal would light a fire in the fan base......Caufield must knew it, PLD too and their agent too (which is Brisson for both of them).
I think it was done on purpose but still not sure what the purpose was.
Harry Kakalovich
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I would play hard ball, because I don't really think he'll move the needle much anyway, so I would use a lot of profanities and not care if he joins the Habs or not.
My feeling is Winnipeg wants this settled as much if not more than the Dubois camp does. If they had a decent offer they would take it and run. The fact that they haven't, should be an indication that nobody is offering the moon, so Montreal should not be the ones to do it. The Florida 1st will only be available till the draft, so all the pressure is on Winnipeg, no need to make a fair offer, especially if management doesn't see him as a must have, and don't care if he goes elsewhere.
I didn't even know NHL.com had a list of players. Thanks for that info. NHL has him at 6'4" elite prospects 6'3' and hockeydb 6'2"
Harry Kakalovich
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The Habs better know his EXACT height BEFORE making any move, down to the last mm...
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It could’ve just been a bunch of drunk 20 years old on a boat knowing they were trolling a lot of people by posting a picture like that.
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Trolling people isn't really what Habs players can do with their social medias......could be if it was PLD's instagram, but Caufield??? It's trolling either way, but It seems so fishy.....even if it was Suzuki that posted that picture, I wouldn't think much of it but because they have the same agent and Brisson used medias before to start a fire in MTL......just fishy to me.
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Canfield is such a troll for posting that picture. He, PLD and Brisson knew exactly what they were doing lol.
nhlfan9191
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They’re drunk. They’re Gen Z. They’re all aware of the circus online about Dubois as far as coming to Montreal. Caufield’s having some fun with it. People are over analyzing it.
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What does 5 years do for us? Imagine having to pay both Dach and Dubois (as well as Guhle, Slaf, and others) in 3-5 years when we really need them because it's contending years? Yeah, salary cap projections on what Dubois will be worth in 5+ years is scary. If you don't like the $9M+ narrative now, you won't like what happens in 5 years.
Best to get Suzuki, Caufied, Dubois locked up long term. $7.75M -$8.5M range will be value contracts in 3+ years. Then we can manage what we have to pay others who need contracts at bad times. Limit it is what I say.
One way to get the AAV down to $8.5M is signing bonus structure. Offer 50% or more and they bite. Extra investment time more than makes up for $500k over the long haul.
8 years at $8.5M max with a NMC and 50%+ of the contract paid as signing bonus. Book mark it.
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