Post-Game Talk: ITS OVER- Did we make a huge mistake on Pierre-Luc Dubois Thread?

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“Would you rather that the Habs trade for Dubois or instead wait and try to sign him when he becomes


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I don't see any logic in paying him more than Suzuki and Caufield, that's for sure. Can't see many teams giving him that contract at all to be honest. He's no Tkatchuk, no matter what his agent thinks. He doesnt have the career numbers that got Huberdeau his giant contract either.

An initial ask of 9M wouldn't be unreasonable (And is still an hypothetical demand at this point, thanks for the mess, Arpon). Tkachuk starting point wasn't 9.5 either. That's what negotiation are for, start high and see what you can get.
 
An initial ask of 9M wouldn't be unreasonable (And is still an hypothetical demand at this point, thanks for the mess, Arpon). Tkachuk starting point wasn't 9.5 either. That's what negotiation are for, start high and see what you can get.
He should be checked into rehab for asking for $9 million. He has a career high of 63 points in 7 seasons.
 
He should be checked into rehab for asking for $9 million. He has a career high of 63 points in 7 seasons.

It's 63 point in 73 games, it prorate at 70pts. Suzuki got his deal after one season prorated at 60 points. It would be perfectly reasonable for him to use 9 (even tho he never actually used that number) AS A STARTING POINT, since he won't get 9 anyway. He will end up in the High-7/Low-8.
 
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It's 63 point in 73 games, it prorate at 70pts. Suzuki got his deal after one season prorated at 60 points. It would be perfectly reasonable for him use 9 (even tho he never actually used that number) AS A STARTING POINT, since he won't get 9 anyway. He will end up in the High-7/Low-8.
He stunk to finish the season and was trending down for almost half the year. If anything, he should be prorated to finish lower than his pace. And that’s exactly why pace is ****ing stupid without contract.
 
He stunk to finish the season and was trending down for almost half the year. If anything, he should be prorated to finish lower than his pace. And that’s exactly why pace is ****ing stupid without contract.

He was PPG for 60 games or so then got injured, didn't that great when he came back from his injury. And he's prorated based on what he has done, not on what you feel he should have done duh.
 
He was PPG for 60 games or so then got injured, didn't that great when he came back from his injury. And he's prorated based on what he has done, not on what you feel he should have done duh.
When you bring pace into things, you aren’t prorating him on what he’s done. It’s based on what he might’ve done. As of now, he has a career high of 63 points. That’s not worth $9 million.
 
When you bring pace into things, you aren’t prorating him on what he’s done. It’s based on what he might’ve done. As of now, he has a career high of 63 points. That’s not worth $9 million.

His career high is 63 point in 73 games. Which isn't the same as 63 points in 82 games when both side are talking numbers for a contract.

And for the 3rd time... He did not ask for 9M, Arpon Basu did.
 
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You said you’d rather trade for him. I can only imagine you said that because you think it would give us a jump on the market. But what jump are we getting when he has Winnipeg at gun point and he’s acting as if he’s a UFA? As of now, he’s a UFA, masked under RFA, that requires an expensive down payment payed to the Jets. To any of the people who said wait a year to UFA, that sure as hell looks a lot better then this travesty we’re seeing now.

And how is that linked to the red flags? Every negotiation that’s related too is a complete and utter circus. He isn’t that guy to be putting out the demands he is.

I was hoping to sign him at 8.5M. What does 500K of a difference do?

Regarding trade assets, we still don't know what it will cost.

As for salary demands, you can't be seriously considering asking more a red flag? Thats standard negotiation tactic.
 
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PLD wanting around 9 million per - does that really surprise anyone?

Bo Horvat, a comparable player and 4 years older, got an 8.5 x 8 year deal.

Dylan Larkin, another guy with comparable numbers and two years older, got an 8.7 x 8 year deal.

That’s just a standard cost for that kind of center that puts up those kinds of numbers.

What PLD gets? That’s another thing entirely. The Jets don’t have any leverage, there’s only a 5 team list that will be submitted, so we know other GM’s aren’t going to go crazy. We also know, out of two of the teams that were mentioned publicly already (Rangers and Wild), the first team, the Rangers,have almost no cap space to pull off a move like this, so I can’t see it happening.

The Wild have cap space but also have several roster holes they need to fill, and do you really think the Jets are going to make a move that will drastically improve a hated Division Rival? I don’t think they’re real contenders here. The Jets would rightfully want more from the Wild than other teams.

I see this all as posturing from both the Jets and PLD’s camp. Obviously the PLD camp is trying to force the Jets hand, while negotiating in the media and behind the scenes. If you’re a player agent you’ll always want to start high and eventually come down (that’s literally his job), while GMs will always start low and come up. I have faith in Hughes, he’s drawn lines in the sand before and either got his price or walked away. The Habs will set their internal price and time will tell how it plays out… If PLD’s agent is smart, (and he obviously is) he knows that the money his client could make through sponsorship deals in the Montreal market would certainly exceed any perceived loss of revenue from other spots, and would be a very important area of consideration.

My prediction?
The repatriation of PLD will happen this summer, and he will be a Hab on opening night next year. I believe the price will be fairly reasonable for acquiring him, and I think he’ll accept an 8x8 AAV deal, keeping it very close to the internal cap structure already in place for the organization.
 
I was hoping to sign him at 8.5M. What does 500K of a difference do?

Regarding trade assets, we still don't know what it will cost.

As for salary demands, you can't be seriously considering asking more a red flag? Thats standard negotiation tactic.
Why not sign him to $10 million? What’s an extra few million in a grand scheme? Those things add up. Just ask our buddies to the west how well that goes when you need the cap space. And I don’t know which players you’re referring too who negotiate the way Dubois has. He grabs his teams by the nutsack in a way I’ve never seen before. Who cares about the CBA when you can be PLD and force your teams hand every chance you get.
 
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I bet HuGo finally called but they inquired about Morrissey.

Dubois/Barron for Lafreniere/Trocheck/Chytil Jets stay competitive Rangers mix up their lines.
 
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