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Post-Game Talk: ITS OVER- Did we make a huge mistake on Pierre-Luc Dubois Thread?

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“Would you rather that the Habs trade for Dubois or instead wait and try to sign him when he becomes

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Captain Mountain said:
The bigger knock against Lafreniere is that he's trending behind Yakupov after three seasons and there are still issues with his game (skating primarily). I'd still bet on his talent, but its a bet. And Montreal already has their own 1st OA pick who didn't exactly light the world on fire in his 1st year. If you're going to get Lafreniere (which, if the price was right, I would), then you need a plan to develop both of them without coddling them.
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How is he trending behind Yaupov. Yakupov's was trending downwards with his best season as a rookie, he was then much worse in year 2, and even worse still in year 3. It's the complete opposite of Lafreniere whose trend line is slightly upwards as every year he's been a bit more productive then the last one. Not to mention the view of Yakupov was he was a net negative, whereas Lafreniere is seen as a net positive just not at the level you expect.

Ideally if we get Lafreniere we also get Dubois both to help alleviate the pressure of being a Francophone "star" and it would provide options for both Slafkovsky and Lafreniere to find chemistry with a quality center. But even without Dubois how is there a concern that we couldn't develop more then 1 winger? Like are you seriously suggesting that it's impossible/hard to develop more then 1 guy?
 
River Meadow said:
Welp.

Guess we need to make the playoffs and accelerate the rebuild then..
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He's not going to make this team suddenly not be one of the worst defensive teams in the NHL. If anything, he might help protect some of the prospects to not get as much pressure and perhaps even develop better.
 
Sorinth said:
Why would we need to make the playoffs just because we would spend 8m on Dubois? If we don't trade for Dubois but Caufield gets 8m do we also then "need to make the playoffs and accelerate the rebuild"?
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We need to be careful on the core we decide on.

Caufield and Suzuki is easy.

My question was.... is PLD part of our core long term?
 
River Meadow said:
We need to be careful on the core we decide on.

Caufield and Suzuki is easy.

My question was.... is PLD part of our core long term?
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I am totally fine with PLD being part of our core long term. He is the perfect 2nd line centre behind Suzuki. Dach is also clearly part of our core and Slaf will hopefully confirm that he is as well next year.

The way I see it....our core moving forward is....

Suzuki
Caufield
Dach
PLD - I hope
Slaf - I think
Bedard - I pray

Guhle
Hutson

We have great depth at D, but I wouldn't describe them per se as core.

Defensive depth...
Mailloux
Axe
Barron
Harris
Engstrom


Forward depth....
Farrell
Roy
Kidney
Mesar
Heinemen
RHP

We have the makings of a very good team in 4-5 years. All those depth players above project as NHLers
 
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Goalfield22 said:
I swear, the standards on this board are riduculous sometimes. Lets pass on a young player with size that scores 25+ goals and 60+ points to a reasonable contract because he isnt McDavid.
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You're simplifying a bit.

The main and real issue some have is, should we need to trade 17th OA, plus, plus, to get him, and then sign him to a $$$ contract.

If we can get him for free, i.e in 1 year, then it's obviously more of a no brainer decision.
 
Belial said:
Why? Because he's a nationalist deep inside?

How? You just have to look at this Desharnais guy in Edmonton, I think they already made like 5 interviews with him and the guy is barely an NHLer for god sake!
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Or, you know, he just want to defend the guy without being a "nationalist" (wtf does that has to do with anything?)

And I have no idea what "this Desharnais guy" has anything to do with PLD. Are you surprised that francophone media tend to follow the career of local francophone players? Maybe the Quebec media should stop talking about Felix Auger Aliassime too?
 
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CHwest said:
8 million for a player that has never hit ppg. Not a chance.
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I feel like people are wanting to shell it out because, yes, he's young, yes, he's big, yes, he's Quebecois, yes, he was drafted 3rd OA, yes, he has potential.

But there are question marks... do we believe he will reach his potential or is he worth 8 million+ at his current production rate...
 
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River Meadow said:
You're simplifying a bit.

The main and real issue some have is, should we need to trade 17th OA, plus, plus, to get him, and then sign him to a $$$ contract.

If we can get him for free, i.e in 1 year, then it's obviously more of a no brainer decision.
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There are pros and cons to everything. Trading for him allows us to offer an extra year reducing his contract AAV. It eliminates the uncertainty that he goes elsewhere. Also, if he goes UFA, you better believe that contract is going to be 9+ with the cap going up.

River Meadow said:
Suzuki is a 2-way beast.

Caufield is a goal scoring machine.

PLD is...?
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PLD is a very good player that is in the same tier as those guys. Give me a break, man.
 
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