Isles Prospect Talk 2020-21 Pt. II

[DerekKingSnipes]

He’s an AHL player at best IMO

I sort of agree I’ve seen him a lot the only thing that makes him interesting is his skating which is really good, he is so fast his skating is NHL level IMO and he is ace penalty killer so perhaps that’s his path to league. He would be good addition to AHL though.

 

[Islanders4Cups]

We were running out a Kid Line of Strome, Nelson and Lee that season, IIRC. As soon as they went cold Cappy would break them up, put Strome at center and Lee on a wing, flip them back in the middle of a game. It’s a wonder Nelson and Strome knew what day it was back then. I think Capuano’s tinkering hurt Ryan Strome the worst.

To be fair, you try and win anyway you can with the team you are given. Would be interesting to know what Capuono thought about having an underdeveloped Ryan Strome on the team.

 

[MJF]

To be fair, you try and win anyway you can with the team you are given. Would be interesting to know what Capuono thought about having an underdeveloped Ryan Strome on the team.

I don't know what he thought but between the position changes and the benchings I'd say Cappy didn't think he was getting enough out of Ryan Strome.

 

[FractionTwo]

Cockerill will stay in college for next season

 

[Chapin Landvogt]

Cockerill will stay in college for next season

Wasn't he a senior this year?

 

[Brain Hemorrhage]

Wasn't he a senior this year?

I imagine the same extra year policy that football players get also applied to all other sports

 

[xECK29x]

+ = on IR or just hurt
x - season over

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PLAYER	POS	ACQUIRED	HFB RANK	TEAM	GP	G	A	PTS	PIM	+/-
+ Noah Dobson	D	2018 round 1 #12	1	New York Islanders / NHL	28	3	9	12	4	6
Oliver Wahlstrom	RW/LW	2018 round 1 #11	3	AIK / HockeyAllsvenskan	10	4	4	8	8	-2
				* New York Islanders / NHL	28	9	7	16	17	6
Simon Holmstrom	RW	2019 round 1 #23	8	HC Vita Hasten / HockeyAllsvenskan	11	1	1	2	2	0
				* Bridgeport / AHL	11	3	2	5	2	-8
				Sweden U20 Team	5	0	5	5	2	2
Josh Ho-Sang	RW	2014 round 1 #28	GRAD	Orebro HK / SHL	5	0	1	1	2	-1
				* Linkoping HC / SHL	4	2	0	2	4	-2
Kieffer Bellows	LW	2016 round 1 #19	4	New York Islanders / NHL	13	3	0	3	4	0
Bode Wilde	D	2018 round 2 #41	5	Bridgeport Sound Tigers / AHL	9	0	2	2	4	-8
Arnaud Durandeau	LW	2017 round 6 #165		Bridgeport Sound Tigers / AHL	5	1	0	1	2	-4
A.J. Greer	LW	Trade		Bridgeport Sound Tigers / AHL	8	0	1	1	6	-10
Cole Coskey	RW	2019 round 7 #209		Bridgeport Sound Tigers / AHL	6	2	0	2	2	-1
Robert Carpenter	LW/C	FA		Bridgeport Sound Tigers / AHL	9	2	0	2	2	-5
Parker Wotherspoon	D	2015 round 4 #112		Bridgeport Sound Tigers / AHL	11	0	1	1	22	-5
Felix Bibeau	C	2019 round 6 #178		Bridgeport Sound Tigers / AHL	5	0	1	1	7	-1
Mitchell Vande Sompel	D	2015 round 3 #82		Bridgeport Sound Tigers / AHL	10	0	3	3	4	-11
Samuel Bolduc	D	2019 round 2 #57	7	Bridgeport Sound Tigers / AHL	11	3	4	7	2	2
Sebastian Aho	D	2017 round 5 #139	9	New York Islanders / NHL	3	1	1	2	2	-1
Grant Hutton	D	FA	11	Bridgeport Sound Tigers / AHL	11	0	2	2	8	-3
Blade Jenkins	LW/C	2018 round 5 #134		Bridgeport Sound Tigers / AHL	2	0	0	0	0	-1
x Anatoli Golyshev	LW/RW	2016 round 4 #95		Avtomobilist Yekaterinburg / KHL	53	12	15	27	28	1
				Playoffs / KHL	3	0	0	0	0	1
Ruslan Iskhakov	C/RW	2018 round 2 #43		TPS / Liiga	47	9	26	35	22	5
Robin Salo	D	2017 round 2 #46	10	Orebro HK / SHL	50	6	24	30	14	18
+x William Dufour	RW	2020 round 5 #152		Drummondville Voltigeurs / QMJHL	23	17	12	29	32	0
Alexander Ljungkrantz	LW	2020 round 3 #90		Brynas IF J20 / J20 Nationell	16	8	7	15	12	7
				Brynas IF / SHL	15	0	0	0	2	0
				* Stromsbro IF / Ettan	14	8	4	12	0	3
Matias Rajaniemi	D	2020 round 6 #183		* Pelicans / Liiga	44	3	6	9	18	0
				Finland U20 Team	6	0	0	0	0	2
Otto Koivula	C/LW	2016 round 4 #120	6	HIFK / Liiga	14	3	8	11	10	1
				* Bridgeport Sound Tigers / AHL	8	1	1	2	6	-5
Reece Newkirk	C	2019 round 5 #147	13	* Portland / WHL	6	3	5	8	0	0
				Melville Millionaires / SJHL	6	4	8	12	2	-
x Jacob Pivonka	C	2018 round 4 #103		Univ. of Notre Dame / NCAA	29	2	7	9	8	-2
x Collin Adams	LW	2016 round 6 #170		Univ. of North Dakota / NCAA	29	14	20	34	10	22
x Logan Cockerill	LW/RW	2016 round 7 #201		Boston Univ. ("C") / NCAA	12	5	5	10	6	9
x Christian Krygier	D	2018 round 7 #196		Michigan State Univ. / NCAA	26	1	2	3	54	-4
x Benjamin Mirageas	D	2017 round 3 #77		Providence College / NCAA	25	1	11	12	20	7
x Alex Jefferies	LW	2019 round 4 #121	12	Merrimack College / NCAA	12	4	6	10	2	-4
GOALIES					GP	GAA	SV%	SO	W-L-T
Ilya Sorokin	G	2014 round 3 #78	1	New York Islanders / NHL	12	2.24	.911	2	8-3-1
Henrik Tikkanen	G	2020 round 7 #214		* IPK / Mestis	12	3.25	.877	0	6-5-1
				Kalpa / Liiga	7	1.94	.921	0	2-2-3
Jakub Skarek	G	2018 round 3 #72		Pelitat / Mestis	4	4.44	.833	0	0-3-1
				* Bridgeport / AHL	7	3.33	.895	0	1-6-0

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[xECK29x]

I can't get over how absolutely putrid Bridgeport is

 

[FractionTwo]

I can't get over how absolutely putrid Bridgeport is

its the AHL: I don't get wrapped over it. Evident the isles gotta restock the cupboard soon

 

[Top Corner]

Wow, our prospect pool wreaks of plumbers, no real great offensive numbers from any of our forwards based on Age/Level

 

[FractionTwo]

Wow, our prospect pool wreaks of plumbers, no real great offensive numbers from any of our forwards based on Age/Level

again, 10 picks the past 2 seasons isn't gonna give you much to work with

 

[xECK29x]

its the AHL: I don't get wrapped over it. Evident the isles gotta restock the cupboard soon

I don’t buy that nonsense, perennial successful organizations are winners at every level.

Yes they do, they would do well to take more shots at “free” NCAA and CHL overagers.

 

[GrandmaSlices51631]

its the AHL: I don't get wrapped over it. Evident the isles gotta restock the cupboard soon

It doesn't matter what is in the cupboard, if it is in Bridgeport , it rots. BST have been the worst AHL team in the last 20 years. They haven't won a playoff round since 02-03.

Now that the NYI organization has been overhauled and established a winning culture, it's about time Bridgeport is gutted and built from scratch.

 

[Seph]

I don’t buy that nonsense, perennial successful organizations are winners at every level.

Is that true though? A quick look at the past 15 years and both Ice Hogs and Monarchs were pretty miserable teams while the Hawks and Kings were winning cups, respectively. And the Baby Pens were pretty good while the Pens were winning cups. Looking further back, the River Rats were good in the mid 90s and then bad from 98-99 through when they ended their Devils affiliation in 2006 which included two cups and a finals appearance, meanwhile the Hershey Bears were a pretty good team when the Avalanche were winning their cups. Doesn't seem to be much correlation between between AHL team's results and the same for their parent team.

 

[Chapin Landvogt]

I don’t buy that nonsense, perennial successful organizations are winners at every level.

Yes they do, they would do well to take more shots at “free” NCAA and CHL overagers.

You are absolutely right about this!

100%

Of course, it's hard to do that when you've already dished out 48 or 49 of your 50 contracts, which is the current case for our Isles.

A lot of guys who play no real and sufficient role in the franchise are on the books.

 

[xECK29x]

You are absolutely right about this!

100%

Of course, it's hard to do that when you've already dished out 48 or 49 of your 50 contracts, which is the current case for our Isles.

A lot of guys who play no real and sufficient role in the franchise are on the books.

A lot of these contracts would start next year, and they would just be on PTO/ATOs for 2020-21. Contract space isn't an issue.

 

[danteipp]

With respect to Bridgeport, I wonder if the plan will be to sign and bring Iskhakov over next season or if they will let him play another year in Liiga? I haven't seen anything specific, has anyone else heard anything?

 

[Chapin Landvogt]

A lot of these contracts would start next year, and they would just be on PTO/ATOs for 2020-21. Contract space isn't an issue.

Well, as long as enough contracts are coming off the books this summer.

The only UFAs in the entire system are Cizikas, Greene, Schneider, Jobst, Fritz, and Bardreau.

There are also 10 RFAs. Naturally, we could walk away from a few, but I'm thinking the only real candidates for that are Ho-Sang, Tymashov, Carpenter, and Greer.

For the record, there are plenty of guys in college, the CHL, and Europe who I'd love to see us add to the organization.

 

[Chapin Landvogt]

With respect to Bridgeport, I wonder if the plan will be to sign and bring Iskhakov over next season or if they will let him play another year in Liiga? I haven't seen anything specific, has anyone else heard anything?

I believe that, since he has left college, he'll need to be signed.

I could be wrong. He may now have the same status/stipulation that allowed us to wait so long to sign Salo.

But I think he can be signed and then loaned out, which would mean he doesn't eat a year of that ELC. That's my understanding of it.

 

[WangMustGo]

again, 10 picks the past 2 seasons isn't gonna give you much to work with

Maybe im way off here, but i think this is a draft that would be worth picking up as many mid round picks as possible. Alot of these guys havent had much of a chance to broadcast their skills and worth. Maybe we get lucky and snag a couple of bluechip prospects.

 

[buud]

i don't think that our prospect base is that bad. not in the top 20, but not brutal, like implied here.

let's face it, just like stock market analysts say, "past performance is not indicative of future performance".

there are some kids that look great as a prospect, and fail miserably when in the bigs. and vice-versa. what i'm more focused on, is how young our core is, and how the team is doing.

26 and under: Barzal, Beau, Wally, Pelech, Pulock, Dobson, Sorokin. aided by Pageau (28) and Nelson (29). that's almost half the players on the team.

honestly, i think that we are in position to at least be competitive for a while.

sure, we don't have a lot of highly skilled prospects, but the reason for that, is that we've been pretty good in the NHL (aka, low draft picks). we do seem to be awash in pretty good middle line types. gritty, character types. we need them. maybe more than fluffy, skilled types, like Bailey and Eberle.

 

[FractionTwo]

Maybe im way off here, but i think this is a draft that would be worth picking up as many mid round picks as possible. Alot of these guys havent had much of a chance to broadcast their skills and worth. Maybe we get lucky and snag a couple of bluechip prospects.

Well it also is a crapshoot draft

 

[leeroggy]

Wow, our prospect pool wreaks of plumbers, no real great offensive numbers from any of our forwards based on Age/Level

Didn't learn your lesson with Wahlstrom? Stats in the AHL are meaningless. Or the Tambellini's of the world would be NHL stars.

 

[FractionTwo]

Didn't learn your lesson with Wahlstrom? Stats in the AHL are meaningless. Or the Tambellini's of the world would be NHL stars.

But that doesn't mean that we have the next future gods just because

Isles focus should be on four guys: Holmstrom, bolduc, ishakov and wilde. Keep those guys around

 

[FractionTwo]

Couple of college FA's been signed already, curious what happens to adams