Eklund Rumor: Isles and Yotes major swap of prospects?

[Felix Unger]

Ryan Strome for Merkley and DeAngelo

Hard to imagine NYI would sign Strome and then do this. Undersized right-shooting young playmakers is something the NYI system has covered.

NYI need Ryan Strome to perform. They don't need more prospects. If Strome doesn't perform this year, he'll serve as bait in the expansion draft (helping protect Calvin de Haan, Brock Nelson, Anders Lee, or Thomas Hickey). The brothers can hang out in the desert on their downtime.

 

[seafoam]

Haha. No. MDC+Barzal+JHS for Strome? Still probably no. We already have a bunch of prospect depth. We've only got the one true blue chip prospect in Strome. He's unique in the organization. Those three Isles prospects would be just more in the mix with kids like Keller, Dvorak, Crouse, etc. Strome is a clear cut ahead.

I think Strome and Barzal are on similar levels as prospects personally, but I agree with you on the rest of it. Dal Colle is a level or two below Strome and plays a less valuable position (especially to AZ).

 

[Trapper]

Big if true.
Huge.

 

[seafoam]

Hard to imagine NYI would sign Strome and then do this. Undersized right-shooting young playmakers is something the NYI system has covered.

NYI need Ryan Strome to perform. They don't need more prospects. If Strome doesn't perform this year, he'll serve as bait in the expansion draft (helping protect Calvin de Haan, Brock Nelson, Anders Lee, or Thomas Hickey). The brothers can hang out in the desert on their downtime.

This is definitely a sink or swin year for Ryan Strome in the organization.

 

[rt]

In my opinion, Strome is Arizona's most important asset under the age of 24.

My list of Top Under 24:

Ah. Yes. DeAngelo. He's up there for sure.

I'm thinking...

1. Strome
2. Domi
3. Duclair
2. Dvorak
5. Murphy
6. Chychrun
7. Keller
8. Rieder
9. Crouse
10 Fischer
11 DeAngelo
12 Perlini
13 MacInnis
14 Dineen
15 Samuelsson
16 Merkley
17 Wood
18 Dauphin

Dylan Strome?

I'd do that in a heartbeat. I think AZ values him much higher than Dal Colle.

I'd put Barzal at 5-6 and MDC and JHS outside the top 10.

 

[Pure Slaughter Value]

It would make a ton of sense for the isles and absolutely no sense for the Yotes.

It actually wouldn't make any sense for the Isles.

That being said, the Coyotes would have no reason to do this trade...and if they did, the Isles would have to add a lot more than Scott Mayfield.

Dylan Strome's value is a ton more than Dal Colle. I'm not as down as Dal Colle as most Isles fans are (there is no one in our prospect pool that projects to be a goal-scorer other than Dal Colle and Bellows) but really? Dylan Strome is a top 10 prospect. Dal Colle is probably top 30?

 

[Heldig]

Ehh... Strome is looking more and more like a bust. His skating is clearly not NHL caliber. He has size and a nice shot, but in the game I caught, his speed was clearly leaving him behind in a lot of plays. In one case he turned the puck over and looked like David Steckel was trying to skate down the ice.

He has no acceleration, and while yes that was one game, it confirms what I seen in the playoffs watching Marner last year. At this point I think he is lucky to make the NHL as a third line C.

We get it. Arizona screwed up picking Strome over Marner. I just dont see why a Leafs fan feels the need to diss a player on a thread about prospects between the Coyotes and the Isles?

There is zero chance Strome is traded for a prospect winger.

 

[Kamiccolo]

We get it. Arizona screwed up picking Strome over Marner (who is the greatest prospect maybe ever). I just dont see why a Leafs fan feels the need to diss a player on a thread about prospects between the Coyotes and the Isles?

There is zero chance Strome is traded for a prospect winger.

I can't have an opinion on a player? I only said Marner because they faced in the playoffs and that is where I seen him, not that one was better than the other.

 

[SLAPSHOT723]

We get it. Arizona screwed up picking Strome over Marner. I just dont see why a Leafs fan feels the need to diss a player on a thread about prospects between the Coyotes and the Isles?

There is zero chance Strome is traded for a prospect winger.

Are you new here?

When Cizikas signed his new contract, Leafs fans wouldn't stop talking about how Kadri's contract was better, as if that made any difference.

 

[doaner]

Looks like it'll be Ryan Strome to AZ

 

[Felix Unger]

Looks like it'll be Ryan Strome to AZ

Not unless Hanzal is coming back. And I don't see Arizona doing that.

 

[XX]

Not unless Hanzal is coming back. And I don't see Arizona doing that.

How much value do you think a 23 year old that has yet to really hit his stride is worth? More importantly, do you understand how valuable Hanzal is?

Either way, the only "disposable" top 4 defender the Coyotes have is Michael Stone. DeAngelo has played well, as well as Schenn, plus there's Michalek on the right as the 7th D, so Stone could theoretically be traded.

 

[boredmale]

How much value do you think a 23 year old that has yet to really hit his stride is worth? More importantly, do you understand how valuable Hanzal is?

Probably more then an injury prone pending UFA who has put up some decent numbers on a bad team(beware of inflated stats). Don't get me wrong Hanzal still is a good player and I am guessing alot of teams will be interested in him at the deadline, but it's not like he doesn't have a few warts to his trade value

 

[Skinnyjimmy08]

Strome show in AZ

 

[Felix Unger]

How much value do you think a 23 year old that has yet to really hit his stride is worth? More importantly, do you understand how valuable Hanzal is?

Why are you asking me rhetorical questions? Is is possible that I already appreciated that when I said, "I don't see Arizona doing that?"

 

[XX]

Probably more then an injury prone pending UFA who has put up some decent numbers on a bad team(beware of inflated stats). Don't get me wrong Hanzal still is a good player and I am guessing alot of teams will be interested in him at the deadline, but it's not like he doesn't have a few warts to his trade value

Hanzal has warts but Ryan Strome isn't producing as a 23 year old and he doesn't bring a lot of other utility to the table to balance that out. His value in trade isn't that high. If the Islanders want to hang onto him, that's understandable. But having the strange reaction of demanding the other teams biggest trade chip when R. Strome's name is mentioned is bizarre at this point.

 

[boredmale]

Hanzal has warts but Ryan Strome isn't producing as a 23 year old and he doesn't bring a lot of other utility to the table to balance that out. His value in trade isn't that high. If the Islanders want to hang onto him, that's understandable. But having the strange reaction of demanding the other teams biggest trade chip when R. Strome's name is mentioned is bizarre at this point.

What do you think Hanzal will get at the deadline? My guess is a (late) 1st and a b level prospect like most other players at his level. You are acting like this guy is signed to a cap friendly deal for like 4-5 years

 

[Pyrophorus]

I'm okay with moving Strome (semi-reluctantly), especially to Arizona to be with Dylan, but it has to really make sense. Strome can still turn it around and it'd be a shame to lose him, but we'd have to be getting a legtimate top-6 NHL RW, which Arizona doesn't seem to have.

Duclair comes back to NYC?

 

[XX]

What do you think Hanzal will get at the deadline? My guess is a (late) 1st and a b level prospect like most other players at his level. You are acting like this guy is signed to a cap friendly deal for like 4-5 years

Hanzal is at least as valuable as Yandle was in trade. Because of his easy to digest cap hit and him being a forward that can play in all situations, there's a bigger market for his services. He's also self-aware of his injury history and his contract demands aren't likely to be outlandish, so any team that acquires him has a chance to sign him.

This is like Vermette all over again, where all of HF swore he wouldn't return a 1st round pick.

 

[SLAPSHOT723]

Duclair comes back to NYC?

I would absolutely love that.

 

[boredmale]

Hanzal is at least as valuable as Yandle was in trade. Because of his easy to digest cap hit and him being a forward that can play in all situations, there's a bigger market for his services. He's also self-aware of his injury history and his contract demands aren't likely to be outlandish, so any team that acquires him has a chance to sign him.

This is like Vermette all over again, where all of HF swore he wouldn't return a 1st round pick.

Arizona paid half of Yandle's already cap friendly contract plus Yandle had 1 year plus change left on the deal(ie the Rangers got him for 2 years of the playoffs not 1)

Vermette is a better comparison for what Hanzal will get

 

[Braeden]

1) How is that at all relevant to what he's posting about?
2) His contract is not bad value and we've needed a guy like Andrew Ladd for years
3) A Canucks fan has no right to make fun of any team's asset management

Just take a look at the Islanders prospects and take a look at the Canucks prospects then come back and talk to me. Glad Garth Snow isn't our GM

 

[XX]

Vermette is a better comparison for what Hanzal will get

You can just say "I'm not at all familiar with the players being discussed" and save us the time.

 

[Felix Unger]

You can just say "I'm not at all familiar with the players being discussed" and save us the time.

What, and deprive you of an opportunity to express condescension?

 

[TROLLCHUK]

Just take a look at the Islanders prospects and take a look at the Canucks prospects then come back and talk to me. Glad Garth Snow isn't our GM

http://thehockeywriters.com/nhl-prospect-pools-the-complete-ranking/

http://www.hockeysfuture.com/team-rankings/fall-team-rankings-2015-16/page/2

http://www.thescore.com/news/1064617


Looked at the prospects, looks like the Isles are more highly regarded than the Nucks. I am glad Garth is our GM.