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I’m willing to bet the top tier guys, who will all be north of 30yrs old, will be extended by their clubs.

Exactly. Some of them will be re-signed, maybe some of them will be traded and they'll sign with the news teams. A lot can happen here. I'm sure this year's list of UFAs looked so much better a year ago.
 

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If the Blues are tempted to trade Parayko... He's the guy we should go all in for.

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been a few days now that I see his name being floated around but why would STL be shopping him ? Is it to aquire a centerman ?

would love to aquire him though ; locked in at 5'ish for a long time , RHD , 6'6
 
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been a few days now that I see his name being floated around but why would STL be shopping him ? Is it to aquire a centerman ?

would love to aquire him though ; locked in at 5'ish for a long time , RHD , 6'6

Agreed. I don't understand it at all. The guy should be a Blue for life.
 

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been a few days now that I see his name being floated around but why would STL be shopping him ? Is it to aquire a centerman ?

would love to aquire him though ; locked in at 5'ish for a long time , RHD , 6'6
I wonder if it is management putting his name out on the trade block or message board fans


I am editing this after going into the Parayko/Oilers thtead and seeing Friedman is the source of the Parayko's available rumors.
 
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Aside from leaving Bobrovsky and Varlamov off the list, if you wouldn't want Fleury then not sure what to say.

That said, I proposed my solution in net. What's yours?

Fleury is 33 and has a history of injuries, so that's my concern. It's the same with most of those guys, they'll pretty old at this point. How long of a deal did you want to give some of them? I'm not saying they aren't good now, it's the contract that they're likely going to sign that wouldn't be good moving forward.

Overpay for a goalie on the trade market or hope a home grown talent can become one of these guys. There aren't many other goalie options for a long term solution.

Also, we know that the list for UFA's for an upcoming year always shrinks as it gets closer.

I like Beauvillier with Barzal.

This sequence of events would really upgrade the bottom six.
  1. Get rid of Nelson (we can all agree on that), maybe add a sweetener like a 2nd + Prospect in a deal for Skinner, or just trade Nelson for a pick and parlay that into a deal for a top flight D
  2. Sign a true 3C who is better at center then Nelson - see UFA's Filpulla, Ryan, Letustu, Nash
  3. Sign Michael Grabner
It's a harder working, faster bottom 6.

I just really want no part of Grabner. Filpulla was someone I wanted to replace Nielsen a few years ago. Don't mind trading Nelson at all.

Don't at all agree with selling Rinne short. He'd be the best goalie we've had in years if he came here.

He's 35 though, how much longer will he be good? How long do you want to sign him for? I have no idea what the market is for him. I'd fear some other team will give him a stupid long contract.
 

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i know I'm in the minority here but i think id prefer robin lehner over grubauer, ESPECIALLY if the rumors the caps want a first for him are true. i know Lehner wasn't great last year but the whole sabers team was a mess. (not that we weren't) but i think if you put him on a better team and hopefully we hire korn for him to work with i think he can be pretty good, especially because he won't cost any assets
 

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But the thing is, how many of these guys will be re-signed and not available next year? Probably quite a lot of them. UFA lists for next year will always look better than for this year.


Right. That's certainly possible, but the overall group is so much more talented and deep than the group heading into this year's class so that's a good start.

And even if every one of those goalies gets resigned, that doesn't mean you force a trade now and give up a top asset for a guy who's not only not proved himself, but in his limited starts looked quite poor when it counts most - In the playoffs.
 

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Right. That's certainly possible, but the overall group is so much more talented and deep than the group heading into this year's class so that's a good start.

And even if every one of those goalies gets resigned, that doesn't mean you force a trade now and give up a top asset for a guy who's not only not proved himself, but in his limited starts looked quite poor when it counts most - In the playoffs.

Well, we have to do something, because currently we have only Greiss. It's either trade for someone or sign an UFA and the best UFA available right now is Halak.
 

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“I think it’s going to be very interesting today. We’ve linked Philipp Grubauer, the Washington backup goalie, to the Islanders. I hear there’s a lot of teams who have asked about Grubauer, maybe as many as 10. A GM I spoke to during the week who said he was interested said he thinks the price is going to be higher than many of them expected because there is so much interest."


Grubauer is going to cost too much for the unknown that he is. I pray Lou stays away and keeps the 11 and 12 for another trade or just to use them.


 

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i know I'm in the minority here but i think id prefer robin lehner over grubauer, ESPECIALLY if the rumors the caps want a first for him are true. i know Lehner wasn't great last year but the whole Sabres team was a mess. (not that we weren't) but i think if you put him on a better team and hopefully we hire korn for him to work with i think he can be pretty good, especially because he won't cost any assets

I agree. The worst thing we can do this off-season is overpay for a goaltender.
 
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Well, we have to do something, because currently we have only Greiss. It's either trade for someone or sign an UFA and the best UFA available right now is Halak.


I understand, but I'd take my chances with one of these options:

  • Buying out Griess and adding Halak/Lehner. Better coaching should help our defensive system as well as the goalies.
  • A trade for another goalie that doesn't involve either 11 or 12.
  • If you deal 11 or 12 then go bigger time for someone like Rask...Or one of those 2019 UFAs with an extension.
 
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Grubauer is going to cost too much for the unknown that he is. I pray Lou stays away and keeps the 11 and 12 for another trade or just to use them.




I'm with you, don't want to pay a high price for an unknown commodity who is being moved because he isn't good enough to replace the current starter and they don't trust to be better than their prospect.
 

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“I think it’s going to be very interesting today. We’ve linked Philipp Grubauer, the Washington backup goalie, to the Islanders. I hear there’s a lot of teams who have asked about Grubauer, maybe as many as 10. A GM I spoke to during the week who said he was interested said he thinks the price is going to be higher than many of them expected because there is so much interest."


Grubauer is going to cost too much for the unknown that he is. I pray Lou stays away and keeps the 11 and 12 for another trade or just to use them.



Lou overpaid for Schneider and lost that trade on a pure value basis, but the Devils needed Schneider. I don't think Lou will shy away from overpaying for Grabauer.
 

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Lou overpaid for Schneider and lost that trade on a pure value basis, but the Devils needed Schneider. I don't think Lou will shy away from overpaying for Grabauer.


And yet when the playoffs came for the Devils this year, they went with Kinkaid - Who was UNDRAFTED.

Point is goalies can come from anywhere. What if a team like the Blackhawks trades for Grubauer and then is willing to deal Crawford for less?

The same way Lehner hit the market out of nowhere, we have no idea what other goalies can be had in a trade. Grubauer is a hot name, but that doesn't mean he's a worthy trade target.
 

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And yet when the playoffs came for the Devils this year, they went with Kinkaid - Who was UNDRAFTED.

Point is goalies can come from anywhere. What if a team like the Blackhawks trades for Grubauer and then is willing to deal Crawford for less?

The same way Lehner hit the market out of nowhere, we have no idea what other goalies can be had in a trade. Grubauer is a hot name, but that doesn't mean he's a worthy trade target.
I think they went with Kinkaid because Schneider was hurt. He had a groin pull in November and tweaked it again later in the season. When he finally came back in March he wasn't winning and didn't look right.
 

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From Eklund: * Islanders are going HARD after Karlsson. There is talk of both of their first rounders involved..
 

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I understand, but I'd take my chances with one of these options:

  • Buying out Griess and adding Halak/Lehner. Better coaching should help our defensive system as well as the goalies.
  • A trade for another goalie that doesn't involve either 11 or 12.
  • If you deal 11 or 12 then go bigger time for someone like Rask...Or one of those 2019 UFAs with an extension.

Seems like good situation.
It appears either way we're dropping 6 million on goalies unless we pay draft picks for Grubuaer.

3 million Lehner
1.5-2 million Halak
1.3 buyout.

Vs

3 for Lehner
3 for Greiss
 
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