Is There a Case For Kucherov > Ovechkin?

[tfwnogf]

the only think Kuch does better is whining

 

[ORRFForever]

Nope.

 

[Stammertime91]

the only think Kuch does better is whining

Misspelled winning

 

[Panthaz89]

while I think Kucherov actually had the better peak season when he beat out McDavid with nearly 130 back when it was harder to put up those totals OV has way way way more longevity and broke out way before Kucherov.

 

[AhosDatsyukian]

Nope and there never will be a case. And I'm a big Kuch fan.

 

[Panthaz89]

When he scores more than Gretzky, that’s an unprecedented accomplishment considering todays defensemen and goalies. The greatest goal scorer in hockey history certainly should have a case for Mt Rushmore

There is more to the game than simply scoring goals.....

 

[Beau Knows]

Ovechkin has obviously had the better career, and will go down as the superior player. You could argue Kucherov has been better in the playoffs and has the best single season between the two though.

 

[Midnight Judges]

Ovechkin has obviously had the better career, and will go down as the superior player. You could argue Kucherov has been better in the playoffs and has the best single season between the two though.

Yeah not really but you do you Crosby fans.

 

[Oneiro]

Personally would take Kucherov everyday over prime Ovy but I can see how that’s not a defensible position to many.

 

[orby]

Kucherov is an elite player and has had an excellent career to this point. However...Ovechkin is a truly special and unique player. There has never been an NHLer like him and there probably never will be again. I put him in a tier above guys like Kucherov.

 

[Castle8130]

Give me the guy that carried a franchise and is the best goal scorer of all time. I don't think a team has ever successfully shutdown Ovechkin in his entire career. The guy is an absolute unit

The only guys I'd take over a young Ovechkin in todays NHL is Mcdavid and a young Crosby. Maybe, just maybe Makar. Makar has a long way to go still

 

[kings11]

No and he never was… Ovie did more with much less talent around him…

 

[SeanMoneyHands]

Ovy is a top 10 player of all time. Kucherov is a top 100 player of all time. Big difference.

 

[mr figgles]

Ovechkin has 3 times as many Hart trophies and all star selections. If Kucherov can catch up to that, then I guess this can be a conversation.

 

[PizzaAndPucks]

If in building a team based off these guys career it wouldn't be an easy choice to decide between the 2. They both have certain aspects of the game that they are better than one another but I'm taking Ovechkin just based alone on the fact that he is arguably the best goal scorer of all time.

There seems to be the argument that Kucherov got overshadowed by Point , Vaslivesky and Hedman in terms of playoff performance. You can say the same for Kuznetsov having a better post season than Ovechkin the year they won the Cup. He had more points and plays the harder position (center). Ovechkin earned that trophy but he wasn't their best player. The NHLcojldnt resist giving him the trophy because they finally won the cup.

 

[blankall]

What makes Ovechkin great is the fact he has played at such a high level for so long.

If Kucherov puts up 100+ point seasons consistently well into his 30s and ends up with 1800+ points (needs more points to account for Ovechkin's goals), then we'll talk. Who knows what will happen. As of now, Kucherov isn't in the convo.

 

[Maplebeasts]

In terms of career achievements? No. In terms of peak I don’t think so either. 65 goals and winning multiple Harts/Ted Lindsey’s when peak Crosby was around is insane.

 

[Kimota]

Kucherov is a great player but it's mainly a guy that produces points. He's not that noticeable. AO has been one of the pure incredible hockey machine I've ever seen. In his prime a joy to behold mixing physicality, creativity, power. A generational player. Finally, he scored the greatest goal I've ever seen:

 

[2020 Cup Champions]

What makes Ovechkin great is the fact he has played at such a high level for so long.

If Kucherov puts up 100+ point seasons consistently well into his 30s and ends up with 1800+ points (needs more points to account for Ovechkin's goals), then we'll talk. Who knows what will happen. As of now, Kucherov isn't in the convo.

I'm obviously a big Kuch fan but this is where I'm at, as well. Let's bump this thread in 10 years.

 

[psycat]

Ovy is a top 10 player of all time. Kucherov is a top 100 player of all time. Big difference.

Top 10? Doubts. I agree he is very much firmly above Kucherov all-time, similiar caliber of players at their best though.

 

[Garbageyuk]

A better debate would be Kucherov vs Malkin.

 

[Randyne]

Misspelled winning

H2H? Not that much. Way below .5 P% since Kuch debut.
Guaranteed golf spot every season if Tampa played every game with Caps

 

[crazy8888]

A better debate would be Kucherov vs Malkin.

Where is the fun in discussing something logical? Come on main

 

[Pablo El Perro]

Ovy is a top 10 player of all time. Kucherov is a top 100 player of all time. Big difference.

Where does that leave Malkin?

 

[LTIR Trickery]

I love the hate for the guy. The only guy that can touch Kucherov over like the past 4 seasons has been McDavid. Ovi is probably the best pure scorer of our generation and honestly helped the game be more exciting, but being a playoff performer, carrying offense and teams? Not being a defensive liability? Thanks i'll take 86.

Hard to compare two drastically different players though, Kucherov could never do what Ovi does as a shooter and Ovi can't do what Kucherov does as a playmaker.