Deadpool8812
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Superstar yes. Generational? No.He wasn't a generational talent in the draft (Even though he scored 3 points per game at U18), but I think in regards to how good he has been NHL, I'd say he has basically been a generational talent.
Kucherov since 2017-18: 144G 259A 403P 290GP. 3 All Star Teams, 2 Stanley Cups, 1 MVP.
In this regard, would you say Nikita Kucherov has been a generational talent?
Let's Discuss.
Malkin is generational if Ovi is.No.
There are three generational talents in the NHL:
Crosby, Ovechkin, McDavid.
That's it. That's the whole list.
Next to Gretzky he is probably the best goal scorer in league history, scoring 60+ goals in 5 of his 10 seasons.
While I can understand the argument against him because we usually associate generational talents as the best player in the league overall, as you mention, I have him there specifically because he was a generational goal scorer.
But just to clarify some numbers that you seem to not be aware of:
- Bossy's career GPG was 0.76 compared to Mario's 0.75 and Gretzky's 0.60 - Mario is the fairer comparison as both he and Bossy had shortened careers leading to a higher GPG. (Jagr is at 0.54, and that's cherry picking using only his Pittsburgh seasons, he dropped off significantly after that)
- Bossy wasn't just a goal scoring machine, he averaged 1.49 PPG. By comparison, Jagr - who rode shotgun to #66 for of his best years - had 1.33 PPG, again, only counting his prime Pittsburgh seasons (11 in total).
So saying he was third wheel in the Island is laughable, and not above Jagr? The numbers strongly suggest otherwise. Generational? I guess that's just a personal choice.
To me this is weird because I don't think of the term generational as something you become after enough time. Crosby, Ovechkin, and McDavid were thought of as it from day one. I mean I'm biased as heck being a Lightning fan and I can't go there with Kucherov. He's not going to be the first name people of the future mention when talking about hockey in this era.I do think it is closer than most people think.
But, currently no.
The All-Star Tampa cast probably lessens his pure talent for many people.
For me, I DESPERATELY wanted Minnesota to do what it would have taken to move up a few spots and draft him in 2011. I remember seeing his highlights and no one was talking about him.
If he continues at above a PPG pace until his late 30's, he may be in the generational conversation. The guy is insane to watch, his IQ is next level- top 5 in the league. Can do it all, skate, pass, snipe, etc.
People don't see him enough being down here in Florida.
Generational talents are guys like Orr, Howe, Gretzky, Lemieux, Linden, Hasek, Crosby, Ovechkin, and McDavid.
You forgot Kirk McLean man.
That's crazy talk.
McLean had a very nice stretch of exceptional play, but he wasn't generational.
I get it - you're a Canucks fan - but we need to be rational, objective, and unbiased in these assessments.
Linden ? Say what ?Superstar yes. Generational? No.
Generational talents are guys like Orr, Howe, Gretzky, Lemieux, Linden, Hasek, Crosby, Ovechkin, and McDavid. A few guys from those cup winning Islanders teams from the 80's and Habs teams from the 70's will also be included.
The term 'generational' gets thrown around way too much but the fact of the matter is that only a select few are worthy of being considered "generational." A generational talent is someone that defines a generation or an era.
I don't even consider guys like Mark Messier and Jarmoir Jagr to be generational.
Yes I did, I've been watching hockey since about 1980, and hardcore since 86. I can only assume you're just trolling. If you are not, then where is King Richard ? One good playoff run doesn't make someone generational. Jagr isn't but Linden is ? You have to be joking.Did you watch the 1994 playoffs?
YES, 100% YES.
Tampa snatching a generational talent in the 2nd round may be the all time greatest draft steal in history. The Russian factor was BIG here but still..............
He's the first to record 100 assists as a winger, back to back 30pt playoff runs, the greatest playmaking winger ever IMO. A monster playoff performer and 21st all time in Playoff Points.
He's only chasing Jagr, Ovi, Hull and Howe with the beginning of his 30s happening in his career.