Is Leon Draisaitl Gonna Break Nathan MacKinnon's Hart?

[bobbyking]

he's not winning with mcdavid on his team

 

[PuckG]

he's not winning with mcdavid on his team

He’s won before with McDavid on his team.

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

Nearly everything you posted happens to every team every year...that must be the worst collection of excuses I ever saw...but that's not the problem.

That's simply not even close to true....

 

[bobbyking]

He’s won before with McDavid on his team.

he missed significant time that year.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

The Oilers are long past the need for regular season awards. I could care less at this point who wins any award that isn't the one that actually matters.

 

[paragon]

He's showing he's worth his extension.

 

[Toby91ca]

The Oilers are long past the need for regular season awards. I could care less at this point who wins any award that isn't the one that actually matters.

Ok, so you care a bit then.....how much less do you think you could actually care? Sorry, pet peeve....

 

[Juxta Position]

Well...my assumption, which I pointed out, was that most star players will definitely be out at the end when the other team's goalie is pulled, same goes for when their goalie is pulled. All things being equal though, I suggested they'd likely stay out longer with their net empty than the other way around as you'd get more tired trying to defend....but also, needing to stay out because you need to be there to try and score when your net is empty, you don't really need to be there against an empty net, others can pick up that slack.

Anyway, rather than assume, I just looked up the stats. Draisaitl has been on the ice, protecting the lead with the other team's net empty for a total of 19:52.....the flip to that, on with his goalie pulled, he's been out for 33:30.

so in those 33 minutes of time with his goalie pulled, he has 3 goals shooting against a goalie, and in the 20 minutes of protecting a lead with the oppositions net empty he has 2 goals. It's very obviously much easier to score when there's no goalie in the net which DOES make this an impressive stat.

 

[avsfan2189]

Nearly everything you posted happens to every team every year...that must be the worst collection of excuses I ever saw...but that's not the problem.

MacK has fallen off a cliff since playing not with Rantanen and the production of Necas is exactly the same this season as before the trade and this including tonight's game where both finally got some points together.
Every star forward needs a good player to play with and MacK is not a exception (that's nothing to be ashamed of as every top forward in the league needs some line support)

has this happened to drai?

can you point out any of the equivalent storylines oilers had to go through?

i dont recall edm shipping out BOTH their goalies, calvin pickard is ....14-4 as a backup...real similar to what the avs had lol

how is playing the full year without a competent 2nd line center a terrible excuse? im not using it as an excuse im using it as a reason why Mack is hart caliber yet again. Do you really think if Mack goes down right now the Avs make the playoffs with Mittelstadt as their no1?

 

[McFlyingV]

he missed significant time that year.

He missed 7 games. He's missed 6 this year. Try again.

 

[McFlyingV]

has this happened to drai?

can you point out any of the equivalent storylines oilers had to go through?

i dont recall edm shipping out BOTH their goalies, calvin pickard is ....14-4 as a backup...real similar to what the avs had lol

how is playing the full year without a competent 2nd line center a terrible excuse? im not using it as an excuse im using it as a reason why Mack is hart caliber yet again. Do you really think if Mack goes down right now the Avs make the playoffs with Mittelstadt as their no1?

Empty net points make this look way closer than it is. Draisaitl is blowing Mack out of the water this year in every statistical category. He's been the far better goal scorer, far better point producer against goalies, and significantly better defensive player.

Mack will be a finalist, but he doesn't deserve a single first place vote.

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

he's not winning with mcdavid on his team

just like in 2019-20 eh?

 

[34]

No

 

[Coffey]

He missed 7 games. He's missed 6 this year. Try again.

People just LOOOOOVE to spout commentary without looking up stats.
It's actually insane how confident they are in misinformation.

We gotta keep em humble and correct.

 

[OilWagon]

has this happened to drai?

can you point out any of the equivalent storylines oilers had to go through?

i dont recall edm shipping out BOTH their goalies, calvin pickard is ....14-4 as a backup...real similar to what the avs had lol

how is playing the full year without a competent 2nd line center a terrible excuse? im not using it as an excuse im using it as a reason why Mack is hart caliber yet again. Do you really think if Mack goes down right now the Avs make the playoffs with Mittelstadt as their no1?

Pickard is 14-4 with a .901 let's not pretend he's carrying the Oilers, Oil are just a dominant puck posession team that doesn't need amazing goal tending to win. Avs goalies were a tire fire before for sure, but the team was also giving up loads of high danger chances and not insulating them.