Is Leon Draisaitl Gonna Break Nathan MacKinnon's Hart?

[LTIR]

McDavid could easily score more than 70pts in the final 28 games after scoring 71 in his first 48 games? Possible? Sure…easily? What the?

He scored 64pts after Feb08 last season at about 2ppg.
I am obviously throwing numbers as projections.. I guess I will change 'easily' to 'possibly'

 

[Toby91ca]

He scored 64pts after Feb08 last season at about 2ppg.
I am obviously throwing numbers as projections.. I guess I will change 'easily' to 'possibly'

That’s fine, but I’m willing to place a large wager that McDavid does not win scoring title this year by double digits. Not sure why the reference of after Feb 8th last year is important either. He played 32 games in that period. They only have 28 games left this year. In his final 28 games last year, he scored 52 pts and in his final 28 games the year before when he finished with 153 pts he scored 56 pts….he’s not scoring 70+ in his final 28 games this year, it’s simply not happening

 

[yeaher]

He scored 64pts after Feb08 last season at about 2ppg.
I am obviously throwing numbers as projections.. I guess I will change 'easily' to 'possibly'

I'm sure he has that extra more than half a point in him....I actually don't think he does, and even if he did I think he will focus on the playoffs more, he's won all the awards that matter...other than the Cup

 

[phrenssoa]

Draisaitl obviously matters to the Oilers, you cant produce that much without mattering. The question is does he matter more than any other player on any other team to their team? Thats what the Hart is (supposed to be) about. Again, he probably gets it because lots of points with most goals seems to be the actual criteria, but the Canucks without Hughes go from wildcard to lottery, while Oilers are still a playoff team with a healthy McDavid, hes that good. If you replace Hellebuyck with an average NHL goalie they lose a lot more than the Oilers do without Draisaitl.

I just disagree that Draisaitl matters more than any other player in the entire league to their team. He clearly is a top 5 ish important player to his team, McDavid should be right up there too, even with those underlying stats. They both are the only reason the Oilers are good, they absolutely rely on both of them. But some teams rely on ONE guy instead of two somewhat equivalent players. Those singular players are more compelling for the Hart.

Again right now Draisaitl would be my expected winner, but only because thats just how its voted on. Guy with most points, unless someone with a similar amount has a lot more goals. Bonus points if you havent won one yet or werent an asshole at the all star game.

As an Oilers fan I think you’re misrepresenting Draisaitl’s value to the Oilers. Without him this year they are most definitely not leading the division and are probably fighting for a wild card spot. He has been without a doubt their best player all year long. How does that not make him one of the most valuable players in the league, whether McDavid is on the team or not?

 

[avsfan2189]

Drai has a good case this year for sure,

but Nate is right there because of all he's had to deal with this year:

- Georgiev being the absolute worst starter in the league for a huge chunk of this season, costing them games and putting the avs down consistently 2-0 , 3-0 down to start games.

-injuries to his linemates like lekhonen, drouin, nichuskin. He's produced at this level with no consistent linemate other than Rantanen (who was more of a product of Mack anyways these last few seasons

- no 2C to speak of. Mittelstadt is a ghost this year and can't produce consistently and has lost all confidence. The guy plays 11-14 min a night if lucky

- the Rantanen drama itself and the trade. He will make Necas produce at a level you never saw in Carolina.

Mack is carrying this team (along with Makar)


If Drai goes down at least EDM has another Hart winner in McDavid. Without Mack this team is out of the playoffs COMFORTABLY.

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[Osprey]

Funny stat

That doesn't really seem unusual to me. He's probably on the ice more in the final minutes when the Oilers need a goal than when they need to hang onto a lead.

 

[Fixed to Ruin]

Thread title reminds me of this

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

That doesn't really seem unusual to me. He's probably on the ice more in the final minutes when the Oilers need a goal than when they need to hang onto a lead.

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most teams put their best players on the ice in the final minute to protect a lead....it's why MacKinnon and Rantanen have no many empty net points

 

[BertMcDrai]

Drai has a good case this year for sure,

but Nate is right there because of all he's had to deal with this year:

- Georgiev being the absolute worst starter in the league for a huge chunk of this season, costing them games and putting the avs down consistently 2-0 , 3-0 down to start games.

-injuries to his linemates like lekhonen, drouin, nichuskin. He's produced at this level with no consistent linemate other than Rantanen (who was more of a product of Mack anyways these last few seasons

- no 2C to speak of. Mittelstadt is a ghost this year and can't produce consistently and has lost all confidence. The guy plays 11-14 min a night if lucky

- the Rantanen drama itself and the trade. He will make Necas produce at a level you never saw in Carolina.

Mack is carrying this team (along with Makar)


If Drai goes down at least EDM has another Hart winner in McDavid. Without Mack this team is out of the playoffs COMFORTABLY.

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Nearly everything you posted happens to every team every year...that must be the worst collection of excuses I ever saw...but that's not the problem.

MacK has fallen off a cliff since playing not with Rantanen and the production of Necas is exactly the same this season as before the trade and this including tonight's game where both finally got some points together.
Every star forward needs a good player to play with and MacK is not a exception (that's nothing to be ashamed of as every top forward in the league needs some line support)

 

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That doesn't really seem unusual to me. He's probably on the ice more in the final minutes when the Oilers need a goal than when they need to hang onto a lead.

Draisaitl is always on the ice when the Oilers are defending a lead at the end of the game. The Oilers are just allergic to empty nets. They have 7 goals all season despite winning 33 games. Tied for 25th least empty netters in the league