Confirmed with Link: Is Glen Sather Stepping Down? [UPDATE: Yes]

[Edge]

Would Don Maloney want the job?

I'd consider him or Trottier.

 

[Edge]

Please yes, if he brings TB-type scouting with him

He's not.

Nor is he waking up on second base with Hedman and Stamkos already in the system.

 

[JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK]

I'd consider him or Trottier.

Is Ron Low around? I’m sure he isn’t busy.

 

[True Blue]

Is Ron Low around? I’m sure he isn’t busy.

Why.....must.....you.....remind.....me......of.......that......name?

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

I’ll take both. Thanks.

JD = Senior President
Iron Man = GM & Junior President
Messier = Assistsnt GM & Vice President
Gorton = See ya.

Gorton has done fine as GM, and Messier hasn't proven anything to deserve a role at that level. I like that "Iron Man" is catching on

 

[DutchShamrock]

I don't know, I see Gorton getting President/GM with Drury getting more duties as AGM and the heir apparent.

It's not easy to bring in a fresh voice as president and basically tell him this is your GM, AGM and coach, this is our philosophy, go ahead and run the organization. If they are fine with that, what are they bringing to the table? If we want that, what are we doing this for?

 

[JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK]

Glen Sather is on ESPN radio with Michael Kay. Sather is preaching patience with the rebuild. He said you build through the draft. He really likes Gorton. I don’t see him bringing in someone to usurp Gorton’s authority on building the team with his vision. He said this draft has 6 or 7 players they really like. They will get an opportunity to get one of them. Sather is not stepping away from the team.

Slats is 76 and STILL preaching patience.

Love it. He could die tomorrow but he doesn’t care, he realizes this is the way it’s done now.

Dude has really changed. I went from counting down the days to his departure to genuinely being happy that he’s still sticking around.

 

[JHS]

It's funny, when it's our team, no one ever talks about doing a good job but falling short, or the number of runs we made. We certainly don't consider that person a genius. But when we look over the fence...there we are.

As for Yzerman as a player, you actually hit on exactly why I am not a huge fan. I still don't consider him a great leader. I consider him a guy who floundered for 13 years before Detroit literally surrounded him with an entire wing of the Hall of Fame. Certainly he was a key contributor to that and is a great player. But the whole aura of him "leading" that team or being a "great" leader?

Nope, never bought into it.

I thought the exact same thing when I read that post. “Hmmm funny how being just good enough to make a long run into the playoffs year after year is good enough for Tampa but here in NY we fire coaches and start rebuilds after that.”

Don’t know much about Yzerman’s job in Tampa but I will say his sudden departure was always kind of odd to me.

Also, for some around here being a good leader seems not to matter if you are placed in a leadership role. You just need to have graduated from Harvard or have experience at a “front office” type job...

 

[FireGerardGallant]

Throwin a party if we actually get stevie y

 

[OrlandK]

Brooks reporting that Yzerman is interested in the Rangers job: https://nypost.com/2019/04/05/lightning-architect-steve-yzerman-interested-in-rangers-top-job/

 

[effen]

Gorton's not going anywhere.

Yzerman stuff is entirely because media members need something to talk about.

It's gonna be JD.

 

[Thirty One]

Gorton's not going anywhere.

Yzerman stuff is entirely because media members need something to talk about.

It's gonna be JD.

Thanks for letting us know.

 

[Edge]

I thought the exact same thing when I read that post. “Hmmm funny how being just good enough to make a long run into the playoffs year after year is good enough for Tampa but here in NY we fire coaches and start rebuilds after that.”

Don’t know much about Yzerman’s job in Tampa but I will say his sudden departure was always kind of odd to me.

Also, for some around here being a good leader seems not to matter if you are placed in a leadership role. You just need to have graduated from Harvard or have experience at a “front office” type job...

I think Yzerman has his talents. I think he assembled a hell of a scouting staff in Tampa. I give him full props for that.

As for the whole mystique and aura? Not a guy I view that way.

Interestingly enough, as far as executives go, Gorton is thus far the guy more closely connected with a championship.

Some view his work in Boston as a catalyst to them winning a championship. Meanwhile, for all the bluster about Yzerman, we still don't know if his work will be mentioned in a similar fashion in Tampa.

What we do know is that neither was/will be around to actually see their team cross the final threshold.

But perception can be a funny thing sometimes.

 

[effen]

Thanks for letting us know.

I got a big heart, yanno

 

[NYRKindms]

Slats is 76 and STILL preaching patience.

Love it. He could die tomorrow but he doesn’t care, he realizes this is the way it’s done now.

Dude has really changed. I went from counting down the days to his departure to genuinely being happy that he’s still sticking around.

how exactly has he changed ? He came to this team cocky as hell proclaiming with the rangers $ he could win every year. His entire reign in NY has been FAIL. He has been allowed to destroy this team multiple times, retool and never have a damn thing to show for it. Building through the draft ? lets look at Slats draft picks. laughable.

The guy has been trading on the Edmonton Oilers for 30+ years. He hasn't won a f-ing thing since he had what 6 HoF players on his roster. And people talk about him like hes a genius or something. I guess in the sense of job security sure. But the fact that they have kept him and around and continue to do so is a trophy to mediocrity that the Rangers have come to embrace.

 

[JHS]

I think Yzerman has his talents. I think he assembled a hell of a scouting staff in Tampa. I give him full props for that.

As for the whole mystique and aura? Not a guy I view that way.

Interestingly enough, as far as executives go, Gorton is thus far the guy more closely connected with a championship.

Some view his work in Boston as a catalyst to them winning a championship. Meanwhile, for all the bluster about Yzerman, we still don't know if his work will be mentioned in a similar fashion in Tampa.

What we do know is that neither was/will be around to actually see their team cross the final threshold.

But perception can be a funny thing sometimes.

Well I’ve certainly been critical of the Rangers scouting staff so if Yzerman could bring his staff with him I’d be very interested. I don’t see that happening though.

Honestly, the Rangers seemingly would have to blow him away financially to get him. Detroit seems closer to success( they have a few more pieces in place I think) and are where he cut his teeth in the NHL. If he’s at all loyal I’d imagine he will head there before coming here.

I’m clearly a nastalgia hire type guy but I really am not sure about JD. He’s gotten teams to “just close enough” territory and seems like a good fit but I really am not sure it would work out for him here. This rebuild is a mess and my hunch is JD might be the type of guy to get the Rangers to exactly the same place they were prior to the rebuild if his track record is any indication. The other thing to consider is JD seems to always come as a package with Jarmo Kekalainen. He worked with him in both St. Louis and snow Columbus. Kekalainen’s history of drafting players is tremendous in my opinion. To me, that’s a huge reason to go with JD if this package deal remains. That would probably mean some shake ups in the front office/scouting department if Jarmo came too.

 

[Edge]

Well I’ve certainly been critical of the Rangers scouting staff so if Yzerman could bring his staff with him I’d be very interested. I don’t see that happening though.

Honestly, the Rangers seemingly would have to blow him away financially to get him. Detroit seems closer to success( they have a few more pieces in place I think) and are where he cut his teeth in the NHL. If he’s at all loyal I’d imagine he will head there before coming here.

I’m clearly a nastalgia hire type guy but I really am not sure about JD. He’s gotten teams to “just close enough” territory and seems like a good fit but I really am not sure it would work out for him here. This rebuild is a mess and my hunch is JD might be the type of guy to get the Rangers to exactly the same place they were prior to the rebuild if his track record is any indication.

The sense I get from JD is that he'd support the process. I don't think he has any aspirations to be GM. With some of the other options, I think that will be a looming undercurrent.

 

[JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK]

I think Yzerman has his talents. I think he assembled a hell of a scouting staff in Tampa. I give him full props for that.

As for the whole mystique and aura? Not a guy I view that way.

Interestingly enough, as far as executives go, Gorton is thus far the guy more closely connected with a championship.

Some view his work in Boston as a catalyst to them winning a championship. Meanwhile, for all the bluster about Yzerman, we still don't know if his work will be mentioned in a similar fashion in Tampa.

What we do know is that neither was/will be around to actually see their team cross the final threshold.

But perception can be a funny thing sometimes.

I agree that he isn’t some deity like delusional Tampa fans made him out to be. But I think he’s an interesting candidate who has his qualifications, and I think he’s proven that he’s a quality hockey mind in a front office role.

Certainly wouldn’t be happy if we replaced Gorton with Yzerman...but if those two could co exist? I think the potential there is enormous.

But that’s the thing. It’s risky.

 

[JHS]

The sense I get from JD is that he'd support the process. I don't think he has any aspirations to be GM. With some of the other options, I think that will be a looming undercurrent.

Agreed- I was adding to my post when you quoted it( wanted to verify the accuracy of my details before posting). But what I added was JD seems to be a package deal with Jarmo Kekalainen— a very good track record with rebuilding and drafting. That, however, would create a scenario where the front office could be shook up.

 

[RangerBoy]

I think it was Elloitte Friedman. He said Yzerman would go to Detroit as President of Hockey Operations. Yzerman would hire Pat Verbeek as the GM. Verbeek was his trusted assistant in TB.

Why do the Rangers want to bring in a hockey guy as team president? They want Gorton's rebuild to remain in place. Sather endorsed it and they sold it to Dolan. Give Gorton the president title or don't fill it with a hockey guy. Just don't fill the job. Hire a business guy. The Hawks have a business guy as their team president. Many teams don't have another layer above the GM.

The new guy not sharing Gorton's vision creates problems. The Rangers have made so picks. They will make more picks. The new guy might be as high on these players. The Rangers are going to trade those players for other players. They are not moving forward at all.

 

[RangerLifer]

I'd consider him or Trottier.

Put down the crack pipe.

 

[LORDE]

I feel a front office is like building a team. Yes everyone should be pulling the rope in the same direction but u need a bunch of people with different skill sets and different ways of thinking.

Scouting here still scares me... we all know the reasons why. This isn’t to say that JD or Stevie Y is bringing anyone w them if they come but another mentality/voice steering away from the McIlraths and maybe the (omitted for fear of being flamed) of the draft is a good thing.

 

[Irishguy42]

Sather/Dolan likely aren't going to consider someone who wouldn't be on board with the current rebuild plan forthe short term.

Long term obviously a PoHO is going ti have their own designs. But in the short term, they'll find a person who will work with Gorton.

 

[GeorgeKaplan]

If we’re hiring Yzerman and bringing his scouts, can we keep ours to do the first round picks? The Tampa firsts haven’t exactly been awe inspiring since he took over

 

[Thirty One]

I think it was Elloitte Friedman. He said Yzerman would go to Detroit as President of Hockey Operations. Yzerman would hire Pat Verbeek as the GM. Verbeek was his trusted assistant in TB.

Why do the Rangers want to bring in a hockey guy as team president? They want Gorton's rebuild to remain in place. Sather endorsed it and they sold it to Dolan. Give Gorton the president title or don't fill it with a hockey guy. Just don't fill the job. Hire a business guy. The Hawks have a business guy as their team president. Many teams don't have another layer above the GM.

The new guy not sharing Gorton's vision creates problems. The Rangers have made so picks. They will make more picks. The new guy might be as high on these players. The Rangers are going to trade those players for other players. They are not moving forward at all.

What if the new guy's philosophy is trade everyone before they reach 200 NHL games? You be on board then?